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Hey, so this is a question that I have been wondering about others and their experieces. Personally, how i ''treated'' my dysporia with my self-induced ''manhood'' was basically to drink. For me, for the longest time, if I was drunk  nothing else mattered because I was out of my real life zone. ''Manhood'' had no effect on me and I could actually be totally ok with maleness. Until, I sobered up then everything became 10xs worse :/ and even in the sobering up mind fog one gets I owuld have to present as female sooner then later to be happy. What did you do?

Deep breaths, closed my eyes, laughed too myself that I'm dreaming if I thought I would ever transition.

Well all... I'm living the dream.

Eat and hate myself


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Mainly alcohol.  When I got tired of destroying my health I would switch over to obsessively extreme running every day.  Invariably that would lead to chronic exhaustion and it would be back to alcohol.  Then repeat the cycle again.


Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote

I basically lived for others. I always deferred to others wishes and helped them meet their goals. That and I frequently contemplated suicide.

All of which, much diminished, have unfortunately become a habit. I will now push for my own needs and I will still think of suicide, but much less often and not as seriously. Helping others to meet their goals has become a decently paying career which I'm considered extremely good at.

Being a girl fits me like a glove.

I cross-dressed off and on.  It was moderately effective while it lasted, but the dysphoria always came back when I had to change my clothes.

How? Simple, ignored it, ignored it and ignored it.
Howd I ignore it? Worked super hard to buy cars lol.
Importing mY RZ Supra from Japan was a big one. And then 89 318is too. Probably spent 50K on cars in my short time :/

Ate to much, lounged around playing video games as a female character, and apparently tried to sabotage my relationships.  Since I found myself, trying to fix decades of self loathing, and neglect of my body is hard.

Hate myself, eat, drink, bury myself under a mountain of diversions and distraction. So many that I even could not allow myself (plus add in the shame & guilt) the monthly or so cross-dressed escape from maleness. And there is doing reckless crazy stuff too. Heck, so what if I "accidentally" got killed?

Drinking, drugs, fighting (used to sometimes be a part time football hooligan unless it clashed dates with my other interests of bikes & muscle cars)

Thanks, Joanne, you reminded me. In addition to the above, snorkeling, flying small airplanes, riding large motorcycles 50 weeks a year and other risky amusements.

No alcohol or drugs for me ever, I knew that if I had started anything like that, I would sink so far so fast into a very dark place that basically that would be the end of me. I have distracted myself with plenty of things that required my full attention, computers, extreme sports and building things. I still eat too much sometimes if I'm in a bad mood.

Way to much of the white stuff and alcohol (the hard stuff ). These days way too much i cream, bread, cheese etc... Still like My beer but i guess that makes Me a cheap date! LOL    :embarrassed:

BY 19 I was desperate and was prepared to risk everything...unfortunately or fortunately depending on where you are sitting after rejecting that I was Transsexual at 19 I dove headfirst into booze,drugs I was already half way down the neck of a bottle of booze, popping pills like candy, just trying to deal with my dysphoria and life...after the 9 months of "therapy" I slid right down inside that bottle for the next 18 years and came as close as you can, to drinking yourself to death...This year at age 53 I can finally say I have spent a tiny fraction more of my life sober than drunk/stoned....         

Liz

Lots of food,  cross-dressing whenever the rare opportunity came or I couldn't last anymore without it,  and keeping my mind on anything else,  project after project...

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Quote from: Dee Marshall on March 19, 2017, 02:13:04 PM
I basically lived for others. I always deferred to others wishes and helped them meet their goals.

Dee, I can so relate to that...

For me, I cook instead of eat (a taste here, a taste there, so I know what the meal will be like, but then I will have eaten something so I don't need to eat as much), I drink enough to quiet the bees down just enough to be able to ignore them. I'll look around at things and stop and deliberately think of what makes it beautiful. I stop for scented flowers, and smell them, and probably repeat. I'll sit sometimes and watch the clouds passing, watching for the condensation or evaporation of the finest tendrils. I try to imagine new ways, for everything, and as a result morph frustration onto something inanimate, and demonstrably tangible.

On bad days, I'll wait until dark, and alone, when my kit comes out. I can wait as I know the endorphins will make it go away for a time.

On really bad days, I will just want to disappear. Be invisible, and outside of it all. Not die per se, but not be there. Or anywhere.

I get frightened, at the suggestion of anything that could make changes to the physical me, and want to control it completely. It makes me appear a stubborn old mule - but I can't express that I know and understand this meat suit, with all of its idiosyncrasies, and change makes me think about it, and starts a cycle of dysphoria. I panic, at every new ache or pain, fear that it might be only be fixed by a surgical physical change. And round the cycle we go.

Rowan

I never actually intended to do anything to relieve dysphoria, as I socially transitioned at a young age and I passed in public for a long time. But as puberty began to get worse, so did my dysphoria - and my brain decided to take over from there. I spent so much time in mental hospitals dealing with psychosis and PTSD and bipolar, a total of 9 stays within 2 years. Gender was put on the backburner.
I've been in therapy for a long time, but only now that I'm stable have I really been able to explore the possible causes of these issues. I've begun to visit a new therapist that's helping me focus on what could've made my brain react so badly during those pubescent years. She suggested that those issues (minus the PTSD) were caused by unresolved gender dysphoria, and that when it was pushed aside for medication and therapy it got worse. I'm thinking that was the case.

So basically, my brain flipped out and gave me hell for five years until I was able to really address these issues.

For myself, I buried myself in work. I was successful for 50 years, but miserable.

I still struggle to come to terms sometimes so my old methods are still a little active. ._."

I played mindgames and used distractions. I would come up with short, disjunct phrases that I could get stuck into my head by repeating over and over again, like "I'm Brent, I'm a boy." Stupid little things that I could repeat many times in a minute--enough times that my brain would just repeat the phrase as second nature after a while, not accepting it because it was correct, but because I was used to it. I would play logic games that ignored what I wanted, citing the desire as something other than what I really wanted.

As for distractions, receding into computer games, Facebook surfing, and transformation fetish (MtF) erotica were my main strategies. Pretty plain and simple on that front.

Quote from: ImSomething on March 19, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
I still struggle to come to terms sometimes so my old methods are still a little active. ._."

I played mindgames and used distractions. I would come up with short, disjunct phrases that I could get stuck into my head by repeating over and over again, like "I'm Brent, I'm a boy." Stupid little things that I could repeat many times in a minute--enough times that my brain would just repeat the phrase as second nature after a while, not accepting it because it was correct, but because I was used to it. I would play logic games that ignored what I wanted, citing the desire as something other than what I really wanted.

As for distractions, receding into computer games, Facebook surfing, and transformation fetish (MtF) erotica were my main strategies. Pretty plain and simple on that front.

Transformation fetish? dont quite think I heard that one.. wazz dat?

Dissociation from the body. Living in the mind instead.

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on March 19, 2017, 06:38:23 PM
Transformation fetish? dont quite think I heard that one.. wazz dat?

Fiction where someone changes gender via magic or science and has adventures learning to adapt to the new normal. The sex runs all over the gamut from none at all to vanilla to some serious kinks.

Yes I read it, even now. One author even based a character on me. She was a therapist in a repressive society who was supposed to be overseeing conversion therapy but instead led the trans underground railroad. I have no idea if she finished that book.

Escapism.  Fleeing into my own mind, into works of fiction where gender was mutable, could change on a whim.

Cosplay; one of the few activies where presentation was everything and nobody cared much about the body buried in the costume.  I managed to link this with a work of escapist fiction where folks could swap bodies easily, almost on a whim, and the birth gender of one character was a minor mystery, by cosplaying "Major Motoko Kusanagi" from Ghost in the Shell. I still have the wig.  ::). (I'm almost tempted to resurrect the outfit with the new movie coming out.  Almost.)

Antidepressants.  I gave them up not long after beginning HRT, and simply have no need for them any longer.

From age 10 to 12, it was music and dressing up in my mom's clothes for a bit after school. But, after getting busted 1000 times for that, the cross-dressing stopped. I started to sneak into my dad's liquor after that. I got involved with smoking pot at age 15 because the second round of suicidal thoughts popped up. (First round was at age 10) So, I slid down the slippery slope and I spent the next 15 years being drunk and high to cope with the gender dysphoria. I wasted a lot of time. I also wasted a lot of money that could've went towards electro and other things.

  Gender dysphoria? What's that?  I didn't know what it is until fairly recently. In fact I had never even heard of it.

But to answer the question.. My unreasonable need was was appeased by crossdressing. I never stopped for very long and my need to do it always made itself known with an ever louder voice until I began dressing again.  I could add drugs, alcohol, anger and such to the list but think those were entwined with all my inadequacies though they too may have been part of this gender dysphoria of which you speak. It is hard say what caused what but I am convinced this gender dysphoria thing has had a part in it all.

  Hugs,
    Jeanette

Quote from: Dee Marshall on March 19, 2017, 07:19:05 PM
Fiction where someone changes gender via magic or science and has adventures learning to adapt to the new normal. The sex runs all over the gamut from none at all to vanilla to some serious kinks.

Yes I read it, even now. One author even based a character on me. She was a therapist in a repressive society who was supposed to be overseeing conversion therapy but instead led the trans underground railroad. I have no idea if she finished that book.

Oh thank the powers that be that I'm not alone. For a while I told myself that my only interest in being female was because of my transformation fetish, but I never had any interest in any transformation other than MtF (they made things interesting but never really peaked my interest) and I find that when I am accepting of myself that the transformation fetish practically disappears entirely. There are other aspects of it, sure, but I am starting to think that the appearance of the fetish in general might have been my subconscious trying to show to me what I really wanted and felt in a way that was relatively safe.

lying to myself about what my feelings were/what they meant, and doing/having whatever little masculine things i could get away with. 

Distractions and an eating disorder/semi-depersonalization.
I convinced myself that the eating disorder would undo puberty and be the perfect cover (as they are typically seen as something females have). *Note that I knew anyone could get an eating disorder.* The eating disorder and my anxiety caused me to become somewhat depersonalized for that period of my life, so I don't remember too much besides being a zombie.
Distractions were with video games, art, music, books and the internet. I still use some of these to cope with my dysphoria.

Drinking, drugs, depression, picking fights, volunteering for dangerous jobs, any stupid "macho" behavior I could point at and say, mostly to my self, "See, I'm a manly man!"

Sports, hobbies, family, yoga, meditation, denial and alcohol.

Quote from: ImSomething on March 19, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Oh thank the powers that be that I'm not alone. For a while I told myself that my only interest in being female was because of my transformation fetish, but I never had any interest in any transformation other than MtF (they made things interesting but never really peaked my interest) and I find that when I am accepting of myself that the transformation fetish practically disappears entirely. There are other aspects of it, sure, but I am starting to think that the appearance of the fetish in general might have been my subconscious trying to show to me what I really wanted and felt in a way that was relatively safe.

You are among good company.

Quote from: ImSomething on March 19, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Oh thank the powers that be that I'm not alone. For a while I told myself that my only interest in being female was because of my transformation fetish, but I never had any interest in any transformation other than MtF (they made things interesting but never really peaked my interest) and I find that when I am accepting of myself that the transformation fetish practically disappears entirely. There are other aspects of it, sure, but I am starting to think that the appearance of the fetish in general might have been my subconscious trying to show to me what I really wanted and felt in a way that was relatively safe.

I don't even care about the sex. This kind of fiction and MMORPGs are what kept me sane as I was realizing that I'm trans.

Quote from: TinaW on March 20, 2017, 12:57:01 AM
Drinking, drugs, depression, picking fights, volunteering for dangerous jobs, any stupid "macho" behavior I could point at and say, mostly to my self, "See, I'm a manly man!"

So I wasn't the only one!

Hyper masculinity.  Beard, major weight training, career in Law Enforcement, fathered 5 kids, etc.  A lot of rage and heavy drinking.  All of that but my career is gone and I feel a million times better than ever.

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Extreme sports
Risk-taking in general
Porn
Prayer
Escape into daydreams
Dressing in mainly women's "tomboy" clothes
Pursuing lots of sexual partners (women and men)

There were many more that i have probably mentally stuffed away.

You know ive felt different since i was around 12-13 and never really knew what it was i knew i didnt feel male i knew that much and had no idea about transgenders or dysphoria i smoked pot, i drank and drank i suffered with extreme general anxiety to the point i could and can not leave the house and be around other people.  Now that i have found out so much about transgenders and dysphoria and talking with the lovely men and women on this site i know what i need what i feel and what i want and know that i will get it.  Now though i drink some and i smoke pot still but now its not to deal with my feelings its more for my anxiety now more than anything.

Quote from: Danielle834 on March 20, 2017, 06:04:18 PM
Hyper masculinity.  Beard, major weight training, career in Law Enforcement, fathered 5 kids, etc.  A lot of rage and heavy drinking.  All of that but my career is gone and I feel a million times better than ever.

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I did some of that, too, actually. At 18 (which I still am but still) I had a full beard, baggy clothes, intentionally masculine body language, a "man's man" persona...it just wasn't me. I felt uncomfortable with it, especially the social aspects, so I'm working to peel it all back, one by one.

Repression was my main mechanism.  I focused on doing everything I could to be more manly.  I got to the gym and bulked up big time. Grew a mustache and goatee and shaved my head. Bought a Harley, wore muscle shirts, went deer hunting, basically anything I could do to "feel" more like a man. I got really good at it.  I was a pretty imposing figure.  My kids' friends thought I was scary, guys didn't mess with me in bars and so far everyone I've come out to has told me how shocked they were and how they'd have never guessed in a million years that this was me.

I found crossdressing in private to be somewhat helpful.  Getting out on an occasional Halloween helped to. Much like Dee mentioned, I also focused heavily on putting others' needs before mine.  For 25 years, since we met in High School, I've done everything I could to make my wife happy, sometimes at the expense of my own happiness or comfort. Same with my friends, I never wanted to be the one that was asking for something, I always wanted to be the one offering to help.

That last bit is part of what is making it so hard for me now. It's a tough pill to swallow when my therapist says I need to focus on self-care. I feel sometimes like I'm being selfish even though my wife and my family all tell me I have to do what is right for me.

Alcohol and drugs --for decades.
Have not touched them, nor do I crave them, since.  Quite telling, if you ask me.

Pretty much the same, drugs and alcohol for me. Was and still am a workaholic which helped for a short time. My main relief was to crossdress from an early age which helped and hinder the situation. It took me 17 years of addiction before I came to terms with who I was and kicked both habits cold turkey. I also quit smoking cigs at the same time.

Now clean and sober for 14 years and finally have accepted myself and am moving forward. Now the next tough thing to face, a soon to be separation from my wife of 26 years.

Huggs Niki Marie

Quote from: Niki Knight on March 21, 2017, 09:09:44 AM
Now the next tough thing to face, a soon to be separation from my wife of 26 years.

That sux, Niki.  I am sorry to hear that.  I've been married 26 years now, too.  I feel for you.  <3

It amazes me to see how much alike we all are. The same themes keep coming up in this thread and people often mention things that I forgot to.

Quote from: ainsley on March 21, 2017, 10:54:05 AM
That sux, Niki.  I am sorry to hear that.  I've been married 26 years now, too.  I feel for you.  <3

Thx Hon, I luv her dearly but Im afraid its just not in the cards for me. Im so glad many other spouses stick with their mates through and through. You girls are so very lucky.

I feel like an oddball here, but quite honestly my way of treating it has been porn (with some internal self loathing). I am grateful that my dysphoria has never been very bad, and I had so many other issues during my "coming of age", I learned to hide my personal disgust of not liking my sex organs by looking at/watching/reading porn and imagining myself as the woman in every situation.

But since I've recently acknowledged this part of me after almost 29 years since puberty, I just tell myself, "Soon will be the next step of starting a new chapter in life, and finally having what I felt should have happened during puberty."

I play a lot of computer games where I can take on the roll of a female. Lara Croft is one of my favorites.

I did not do drugs or drink. I tried to do the right thing and live as the perfect example of a man. I imitated men that I looked up too and sort of took on their character role instead of being myself. I also tried a lot of hobbies like flying rc helicopters,racing rc cars,fishing and body building I won't say I would still show down a nice fast car or bike as female.

When the thoughts came up I pushed them down with everything that I was going to lose if I would become a woman. Basically I bushed them down with fear. Then I went metrosexual as a male to try and cope although my ex wife did limit me in some regards to what I was allowed to do. I wore foundation now and then and even had a little eyeliner on on my own wedding.

I could never cross dress because for myself I was just a man in woman's clothing it wasn't the clothing that mattered. I would only end up in tears because it didn't make me feel more feminine but more male because my body did not fit the clothes and then it puts focus on how masculine it is.

Quote from: lisawb on March 21, 2017, 08:17:03 AM
That last bit is part of what is making it so hard for me now. It's a tough pill to swallow when my therapist says I need to focus on self-care. I feel sometimes like I'm being selfish even though my wife and my family all tell me I have to do what is right for me.

This was also a very tough pill for me to swallow and still is. I feel I am being selfish towards my 3 year old.

Quote from: Amoré on March 25, 2017, 06:53:32 AM
I tried to do the right thing and live as the perfect example of a man. I imitated men that I looked up too and sort of took on their character role instead of being myself.

If it anyhelp I did this basically my whole life up until recently. In many ways growing up male I felt I was living in a never ending movie with all that acting. It has been a mega adjustment to live life for myself but I am seeign the rewards now!!

I still wonder if I have come to terms with it or if I' m in some sort of denial. I' ve never really tried to be a woman, it's just not in me and nobody cared too much either. I always did everything I wanted, it's not like "being a woman" ever stopped me from things. Even though I' m not "out", people, especially men, do not treat me the same as they treat women. So do I have GENDER dysphoria? I' m not sure, my mother seems to be the only one who sometimes comment about it, like "You shouldn't unclog the pipe to the sewer because you are a woman, let the men do that, it's their job". However, my male neighbour who asked me to unclog the sewer didn't seem to have a problem with me doing it, infact he asked me to since he had a bad knee. So really, the only thing that "being a woman" is stopping me from doing is wearing ties in public (except for cosplay). I studied what I wanted, I' m in a relationship with a cis woman and we're getting married soon ... I' m not sure how things would have changed if I "acted like a woman" (whatever that might mean, I honestly don't know what it is to be a woman) or if I was born anatomically male.

Now, do I have body dysphoria? Yes, I do not look like I look in my mind. However, I cannot change that since I would have to grow considerably taller and change my body shape, which is not something that can happen with hormonal treatment or surgery. It is not the only dysphoria I have though, and although it might sound really weird... I feel like I also have "time period dysphoria" and I'm not living in either the time period or the country where I' m supposed to be, while one can be changed, the other can't.
To overcome all those dysphorias that I' ve had all my life (including the time period dysphoria, as I wrote about it when I was 10), I became super spiritual. I developed a really strong belief system that I still have today, where reality is just perception, and by changing that perception we change reality, since it doesn't exist outside ourselves. We are how and what we think we are, and time is not a linear progression. I consider everything that exists as a matter of vibrations, by changing our particular vibration we change that surrounding us.

I haven't abandoned it because it works for me, people perceive me spiritually (and sometimes physically, which is weird) how I think I am. At the same time positive thinking and taking action have changed my reality, turning around certain events. I haven't been able to do much in the time department yet, but I' m working on it.

Am I in denial and rationalizing everything because "reality" is too much to bear and accept? It's always a possibility, but I cannot stop feeling that there's more to life than what we see and commonly experience.

I tried to do the right thing and live as the perfect example of a man. I imitated men that I looked up too and sort of took on their character role instead of being myself.

Me too, trouble was the men I looked up to drank to excess, took drugs & got in fights!

I was in very deep depression and very dark place
I buried myself I didn't dress good or take care of myself ( I was saying what the point )
Crying everyday in pain and wishing and dreaming I turn to a girl
I was bullied very hard in and out the school by students and teachers alike also my family physical and emotionally abuse me specially dad

(Because i was soft and feminine and being LGBT is considered disgusting in Saudi Arabia)

I could not even look at myself in the mirror and often asking myself who I am because I feel as girl since my very early memory of childhood but I have male body and I hate it
I eat a lot ( emotional food binge ) sleeping a lot and crying everyday

When I got to my late teen I setup my final date to kill my self because I couldn't live any longer in this way I have to be myself as girl or die

Around that time I understood what transgender mean and what is transition

OMG

I couldn't sleep for week trying to find ways to start transition

Literally I didn't sleep for full week except for hour or two and that happened when I black out from exhausting

Only when I start transition with my first hormone pill I felt HAPPY and ALIVE
Now I have reason to live


The bullying and physical and emotional abuse didn't change instead it increased because I look more feminine now

But it's Saudi Arabia

Dating myself here, but I initially treated it by getting real into the hard rock scene. Guys in bands like Poison and Motley Crue wore long hair and makeup, and would wear somewhat feminine clothing.

When that style became unfashionable, I turned to alcohol and drugs.

Why is it rap is still popular, and rock is basically dead? I used to be really angry about this outlet being taken from me by the music industry, and myself at selling out and growing a goatee during the grunge era, and worse shaving my head in the post grunge era. I still wonder what things would be like if hard rock still ruled the airwaves. When I present en femme, I still look like a hard rock guy in the mirror, and I'm fine with that. I wasn't really that dysphoric in that time period, I like being reminded of that.

Quote from: GrayKat on March 25, 2017, 12:44:43 AM
I play a lot of computer games where I can take on the roll of a female. Lara Croft is one of my favorites.

Kat, I did and still do the same.  I spend a good majority of my time engaged in mmorpg where I can immerse myself as a woman.  My wife is starting to understand this, so she doesn't nag me as much, lol. 

I tried to get addicted to fruit machines so it would take my mind off wanting to be a girl! How mad was that? I just got bored & had less money for booze & drugs!

I think drinking a lot, I've toned it down the past couple of years but basically from 2011 to 2015 I was blacked out drunk every single weekend, did so many stupid things along the way as well, many that I regret. But to be honest back then I never knew I was escaping from dysphoria or anything like that, I always felt I was just bored with my life and unsatisfied and kept thinking it was just all part of adulthood, being miserable Monday to Friday from 8 to 5 at your desk, fantasizing about a better life all the time and then partying until you blacked out on the weekends. It wasn't until 2014 at my first trial at therapy when I realized there might be something more to it...I kept wanting to escape from my life and my gender related thoughts could have been the reason why.

Nowadays I mostly cope by using my imagination and going to places in which I'm a girl, every time I feel down. I still drink but not nearly as often as I used to.

Not to negate/de-rail this thread but I just realized I had spelt Dysphoria wrong xD

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on April 04, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
Not to negate/de-rail this thread but I just realized I had spelt Dysphoria wrong xD

Looks fine to me!  [emoji6]


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Quote from: Michelle_P on April 04, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
Looks fine to me!  [emoji6]


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Hahaha oh you ;)

Quote from: VeronicaLynn on April 04, 2017, 12:59:05 PM

Why is it rap is still popular, and rock is basically dead?

I ask myself this everyday. Rap has repeated itself for over twenty years and no one is coplaining about a lack of evolution. In just ten years - from 1983 to 1993 - rock/metal went from no frills denim and long hair (Maiden, Motorhead, Metallica) to peroxide, hairspray, femme clothing and outlandish makeup (Crue, Poison, Enuff Z' Nuff) to toned down clothes that embraced mutli-colours as oppose to just black (Warrant, Firehouse, Van Halen) as well as from NWOBHM to thrash to pop-friendly, good-time rock and to progressive and yet it was considered to be 'done'.

QuoteI used to be really angry about this outlet being taken from me by the music industry, and myself at selling out and growing a goatee during the grunge era, and worse shaving my head in the post grunge era.

I always wondered who were these fans abandoning  G'n' R, Jovi and Iron Maiden (the biggest bands in the world at the time) to embrace Nirvana and co.

QuoteI still wonder what things would be like if hard rock still ruled the airwaves.

The good news is there's plenty of gold to be found on You Tube from bands that were missed back in the day as well as a plethora of modern bands playing that 80s style. Some suggestions:

Back in the Day:
Blue Tears - True Romance, Rocking With The Radio
Tigertailz - Love Bomb Baby
Silent Rage - Rebel With a Cause
Signal - Does it Feel Like Love
Wildside - How Many Lies
Tyketto - Forever Young, Wings, Standing Alone
Dare - Wild Heart, Lies
Baton Rouge - There Was a Time, Walks Like a Woman


Modern Bands:
Stranded - Tonight
All I Know - Asphyxia
Steel Panther - Community Property, Death to All But Metal, If You Really, Really Love Me
Wig Wam - In My Dreams, At The End of the Day
H.E.A.T - 1000 Miles, Cry, Keep on Dreaming, Late Night Lady, Living on the Run, Point of no Return

You can't mention Steel Panther without suggesting Glory Hole.  For those not familiar it is absolutely as not safe for work, children, spouses, most adults, and any form of farm animal as the title would imply but it is hilarious.

Quote from: vicki_sixx on April 05, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I ask myself this everyday. Rap has repeated itself for over twenty years and no one is coplaining about a lack of evolution. In just ten years - from 1983 to 1993 - rock/metal went from no frills denim and long hair (Maiden, Motorhead, Metallica) to peroxide, hairspray, femme clothing and outlandish makeup (Crue, Poison, Enuff Z' Nuff) to toned down clothes that embraced mutli-colours as oppose to just black (Warrant, Firehouse, Van Halen) as well as from NWOBHM to thrash to pop-friendly, good-time rock and to progressive and yet it was considered to be 'done'.

I always wondered who were these fans abandoning  G'n' R, Jovi and Iron Maiden (the biggest bands in the world at the time) to embrace Nirvana and co.

I was one of the last people at my school to jump ship. Really, the bigger problem was that no one else I knew still wanted to play music in that style, and I wanted to be in a band, so I had to go with the flow to find anyone to jam with.

Might check out some of those bands. I'm mostly past this now. I do watch a lot of videos on YouTube, though lately mostly female pop artists, including ones from the 80's, practicing dancing in heels. Didn't allow myself to watch these much back in the day...

Quote from: vicki_sixx on April 05, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I ask myself this everyday. Rap has repeated itself for over twenty years and no one is coplaining about a lack of evolution. In just ten years - from 1983 to 1993 - rock/metal went from no frills denim and long hair (Maiden, Motorhead, Metallica) to peroxide, hairspray, femme clothing and outlandish makeup (Crue, Poison, Enuff Z' Nuff) to toned down clothes that embraced mutli-colours as oppose to just black (Warrant, Firehouse, Van Halen) as well as from NWOBHM to thrash to pop-friendly, good-time rock and to progressive and yet it was considered to be 'done'.

I always wondered who were these fans abandoning  G'n' R, Jovi and Iron Maiden (the biggest bands in the world at the time) to embrace Nirvana and co.

The good news is there's plenty of gold to be found on You Tube from bands that were missed back in the day as well as a plethora of modern bands playing that 80s style. Some suggestions:

Back in the Day:
Blue Tears - True Romance, Rocking With The Radio
Tigertailz - Love Bomb Baby
Silent Rage - Rebel With a Cause
Signal - Does it Feel Like Love
Wildside - How Many Lies
Tyketto - Forever Young, Wings, Standing Alone
Dare - Wild Heart, Lies
Baton Rouge - There Was a Time, Walks Like a Woman


Modern Bands:
Stranded - Tonight
All I Know - Asphyxia
Steel Panther - Community Property, Death to All But Metal, If You Really, Really Love Me
Wig Wam - In My Dreams, At The End of the Day
H.E.A.T - 1000 Miles, Cry, Keep on Dreaming, Late Night Lady, Living on the Run, Point of no Return

My wife would kill me if I didn't add Nonpoint to that list.  To be fair, they are a pretty good band IMHO, and are very friendly.  They have an array of styles in their songs, but you can tell it's the same band, the tunes just have different feels.  I  really like Bullet(with a name on it) and my wife really likes El Diablo.