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Title: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 04:52:46 PM
I just found out that my mom is taking me off of her insurance because she won't support my transition in any way. This means I will be paying out of pocket to see an endo from now on. Can anyone give me an estimated guess on how much it would be to see an endo without insurance? With insurance it would be $25.00 for me... so much for that.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Mark on July 25, 2010, 04:56:58 PM
when i got the bill from my endo is was around 550 but insurance covered it minus the copay
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 05:00:31 PM
Jesus Christ! Was that after one visit?
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Mark on July 25, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
yes

Post Merge: July 25, 2010, 05:06:03 PM

1 visit no blood work, just talkin to the old man
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: sneakersjay on July 25, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
I haven't seen any bills from my endo, so I have no idea.  However, just a plain boring exam visit to my MD with NO ISSUES was $250 for a family doctor.  !!!


Jay
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
I've had insurance all my life so I had no idea that the bills were that high. God, I hope she sees the light and doesn't take me off of her insurance.

Btw - an endocrinologist would be considered a "specialist" right?
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Epigania on July 25, 2010, 07:12:17 PM
Medical bills are a ripoff...  people don't know how much their healthcare really costs until they need something done without insurance...

If the parental units won't let you on their insurance perhaps Medicaid or a better job would help.

Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: JudahLiam on July 25, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
PLEASE IGNORE THE CAPS I'M NOT SCREAMING LOL. MY KEYBOARD IS HAVING AN ISSUE TODAY SORRY.  I JUST WENT TO THE ENDO LAST MONTH AND I HAVE NO INSURANCE. FOR A FULL BLOOD WORK UP PLUS THE APT IT CAME TO $154
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
hahaha I find your caps lock amusing  ;D

$154 isn't bad. That's around the price I was expecting... but $550 sounds ridiculous.

again - endocrinologists are considered "specialists" right?
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Shang on July 25, 2010, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
hahaha I find your caps lock amusing  ;D

$154 isn't bad. That's around the price I was expecting... but $550 sounds ridiculous.

again - endocrinologists are considered "specialists" right?

Yes, they're specialists--at least where I'm at they are.  I need a referral to any specialist and I need a referral to see an endocrinologist.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Mark on July 25, 2010, 08:35:30 PM
Yes they are considered a specialist.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Arch on July 25, 2010, 09:16:13 PM
My endo charged something like $281 for the initial visit. That included a brief exam, a consult, and my first shot of T. It did not include blood work. If it's not too late, you might want to see your GP before the insurance runs out, and get all your blood work done unless your endo visit is far in the future. Or find a clinic and get it done on the cheap...
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 10:00:43 PM
good to know. I'm already on T. I've been on T for 4 months. I just need to switch to an endo in the city I live in now since I've moved so really all I need is the prescription... I forgot about the blood work so thanks for reminding me.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Matthew J. F on July 26, 2010, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: TheOtherSide on July 25, 2010, 04:52:46 PM
I just found out that my mom is taking me off of her insurance because she won't support my transition in any way. This means I will be paying out of pocket to see an endo from now on. Can anyone give me an estimated guess on how much it would be to see an endo without insurance? With insurance it would be $25.00 for me... so much for that.

That truly sucks if your mother is actually doing this. What shes doing is flat out wrong. Maybe you need to find a meeting that specialized in this kind of situation... to help educate your mother with what is going on with you and how you're trying to change to the person that you're suppose to be. The girl that she knew never existed. It was all pretend.

I am on medicare and I see an endocrinologist but for a whole different reason :(  What's good about medicare is that they assign you a login user name with password. you can sign in to see what you were billed with.

Here's the bill to which Medicare got billed for the blood test that I have gotten recently for a thyroid condition that I have.

Claim Processed Date:   7/10/2010
Claim Received Date:   7/7/2010
Amount Charged:   $652.00
Provider Name:   (Edited)
Assigned/Unassigned:   A
Total Applied to Deductible:   $0.00
Patient Paid to Provider:   $0.00
Blood Deductible:   $0.00
Referring Provider Name:   
Medicare Payment:   $294.07
Patient Payment:   $0.00
Provider Payment:   $294.07
Psychiatric Charges:   $0.00
Physical Therapy Charges:   $0.00
Occupational Therapy Charges:   $0.00

Claim Line Number   Procedure Code   Medicare Approved   Total Units   Start Date   End Date   Amount Charged   Cash Deductible   Co-Insurance   Patient Responsibility
1   82306 - Vitamin D; 25 Hydroxy, Includes Fraction(S), If Performed   42.40   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $150.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
2   82670 - Estradiol   40.02   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $90.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
3   83001 - Gonadotropin; Follicle Stimulating Hormone (Fsh)   26.62   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $48.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
4   83002 - Gonadotropin; Luteinizing Hormone (Lh)   26.53   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $48.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
5   84146 - Prolactin   27.76   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $53.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
6   84402 - Testosterone; Free   36.47   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $75.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
7   84403 - Testosterone; Total   36.98   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $75.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00

8   84439 - Thyroxine; Free   12.92   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $34.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
9   84443 - Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (Tsh)   24.06   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $45.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00
10   84480 - Triiodothyronine T3; Total (Tt-3)   20.31   1   7/6/2010   7/6/2010   $34.00   $0.00   $0.00   $0.00

Another recent visit from my endocrinologist discussing about the blood results and all of the chit chat.

Claim Number:   1010201162010
Claim Processed Date:   7/23/2010
Claim Received Date:   7/20/2010
Amount Charged:   $138.00
Provider Name:   (edited)
Assigned/Unassigned:   A
Total Applied to Deductible:   $0.00
Patient Paid to Provider:   $0.00
Blood Deductible:   $0.00
Referring Provider Name:   
Medicare Payment:   $103.91
Patient Payment:   $0.00
Provider Payment:   $83.13
Psychiatric Charges:   $0.00
Physical Therapy Charges:   $0.00
Occupational Therapy Charges:   $0.00

Claim Line Number   Procedure Code   Medicare Approved   Total Units   Start Date   End Date   Amount Charged   Cash Deductible   Co-Insurance   Patient Responsibility
1   99214 - Office Or Other Outpatient Visit For The Evaluation And Management Of An Established Patient   103.91   1   7/19/2010   7/19/2010   $138.00   $0.00   $20.78   $20.78

This is an estimate to which you might be paying for without insurance.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 26, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
wow. thanks for that information.

My mom has been seeing a psychiatrist but unfortunately... the psychiatrist doesn't take what I'm doing seriously. I went to one therapy session with both of them and I refuse to endure another one. If you've ever seen the movie Mommie Dearest that is my mom EXACTLY.... She's very vain and everything is my fault. Anything that could possible break her image brings her to irrational rage and then she takes it out on me. With that said, we are actually fine now. I'm worried she'll take me off eventually though....

it can only go one way or the other - she sees the light and decides to help her child along the road to happiness -OR- she completely loses herself to her vanity and cuts me off.

We'll see
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Hurtfulsplash on July 26, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
I spoke with the financial dept of my future endo's clinic not long ago and was told around $350. Not sure how accurate this is as the financial counselor barely knew anything about my case.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Arch on July 27, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
And people think trans folks are unbalanced. Sounds like your mother has a lot of issues.

If you're still insured, definitely get caught up on any medical issues while you still can. Line up the new endo, get a new prescription so you have backup, get full blood work if you need to.

Some cities do have informed consent clinics, and I understand that some GPs will work with you on HRT. Might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 27, 2010, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Arch on July 27, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
And people think trans folks are unbalanced. Sounds like your mother has a lot of issues.

If you're still insured, definitely get caught up on any medical issues while you still can. Line up the new endo, get a new prescription so you have backup, get full blood work if you need to.

Some cities do have informed consent clinics, and I understand that some GPs will work with you on HRT. Might be worth looking into.

I'll check to see if I can find someone who will do informed consent. I've been on testosterone for 4 months now so I'm wondering if the new endo I find will still need a therapy letter... unfortunately I don't have that. I DO have my prescription, though. I definitely cannot afford to see another therapist to get another letter.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Arch on July 28, 2010, 09:47:42 AM
Quote from: TheOtherSide on July 27, 2010, 09:09:23 PMI'll check to see if I can find someone who will do informed consent. I've been on testosterone for 4 months now so I'm wondering if the new endo I find will still need a therapy letter... unfortunately I don't have that. I DO have my prescription, though. I definitely cannot afford to see another therapist to get another letter.

Hmm. What did your old endo require? Can he or she refer you to another endo or something?
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: TheOtherSide on July 28, 2010, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Arch on July 28, 2010, 09:47:42 AM
Hmm. What did your old endo require? Can he or she refer you to another endo or something?

I went to the sidney borum jr health center in boston and next door they have a place where I went through therapy. The two places work together so it only took me 6 weeks to go through therapy and get prescribe T. I asked them to send me the letter and I'm hoping that an endo in Houston (where I am now) will accept that letter.
Title: Re: Cost of endocrinologist without insurance
Post by: Arch on July 28, 2010, 02:40:37 PM
Sounds like a cool system. I hope the letter comes through.