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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Orchiectomy and Penectomy => Topic started by: Linde on February 18, 2019, 11:25:09 PM

Title: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 18, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
I had my pre op check up today, everything seems to be fine for my surgery on Friday.  It is a bummer that they wait til Thursday afternoon before they give me the reporting in time for the surgery.

Had a nice talk with the techs, because a lot of the stuff they used was developed in our labs.  I had my fingers in the development of some of the things they used.

I am starting to get a tiny bit nervous, because I never observed an orchiectomy, or participated in one.  I have no clue what to expect (except what I saw on youtube).
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Iztaccihuatl on February 19, 2019, 12:55:55 AM
Good luck with your surgery on Friday! I am sure you'll do well.

Hugs,

HM
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Chloe on February 19, 2019, 03:40:04 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 18, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
I am starting to get a tiny bit nervous

          Don't be Linde I accompanied a member here but didn't "watch". Seems like it was only 45min later we were down the road and placing "the boys" atop her refrigerator!

          Well, I know they're not there anymore "KL" since divorced the wife, moved away sold the house and married another after I said "no"  ;) lol The only thing I miss is "the wife" we got along great! Hope this fixes your pain troubles keep us posted!

Bon Voyage!



Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: LizK on February 19, 2019, 05:15:36 AM
@Dietlind

Hi Linde

Oh wow not long to go now and I guess nerves are to be expected...good luck for Friday you seem really well prepared and very knowledgeable.

I hope you breeze through this with no issues at all

Liz
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: randim on February 19, 2019, 05:38:43 AM
Good luck Linde.  I'm sure in your good hands.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: GordonG on February 19, 2019, 10:42:07 AM
Wishing you all the best.  It's a piece of cake. 
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: mm on February 19, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Do you know which procedure your dr will use? Dietlind
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: NatalieRene on February 19, 2019, 06:17:22 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 18, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
I had my pre op check up today, everything seems to be fine for my surgery on Friday.  It is a bummer that they wait til Thursday afternoon before they give me the reporting in time for the surgery.

Had a nice talk with the techs, because a lot of the stuff they used was developed in our labs.  I had my fingers in the development of some of the things they used.

I am starting to get a tiny bit nervous, because I never observed an orchiectomy, or participated in one.  I have no clue what to expect (except what I saw on youtube).

Good luck Dietlind! Don't worry.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Northern Star Girl on February 19, 2019, 06:23:00 PM
@Dietlind
Dear Linde:
Hang on tight, this part of the ride can get a little bumpy but is still very exciting and a big, big step in your transition journey.
When you are ready and willing all of us would love to read your comments and update reports.

Hugs, and best wishes to you.
Danielle
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 19, 2019, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: mm on February 19, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Do you know which procedure your dr will use? Dietlind
Bilateral conventional orchi, with the cords cut as high as possible.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 19, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
Thank you ladies for your support and the good wishes.  I will report back about it, once i am able to sit at the computer again.
I will see my endo on Thursday morning, and have to tell him about the orchi, and try to convince him to adjust my HRT accordingly.
Today was my first day without spiro, and I might do self suggestion, but I feel much better already.  I even worked a tiny bit outside!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 19, 2019, 07:41:12 PM
I am wishing you well Linde.

At the appropriate time after it is over, get a big basket of French fries to enjoy.  Possibly some fish to go with that.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 19, 2019, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 19, 2019, 07:41:12 PM
I am wishing you well Linde.

At the appropriate time after it is over, get a big basket of French fries to enjoy.  Possibly some fish to go with that.

Chrissy
Tanks!
And fish, as long as it is not catfish!  :P
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 23, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
I am "ball-les".  I have very little pain!  Took two Tylenols yesterday and an oxycodone for the night.  I have not taken anything today yet.
I had a little bit of drama, the wound did not stop bleeding, and at 11 PM my friend decided to bring me to the ER.  They were concerned I might have a hematoma and did a ct scan with me.  It turned out that everything was OK, and they coagulated the blood of the wound and put some special packing onto it. About 4 hours later I was back home.  I had no signs of bleeding this morning, but i am pretty weak, I must have lost quite a bit of blood.

It is really great that i have just a little bit of wound pain, but it is very bearable.  I ca not see much bruising in the area.

It is a funny feeling to have not  really much between my legs anymore!  Got to get used to it!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Megan. on February 23, 2019, 09:44:58 AM
Congrats! Sry you had that little bleeding concern,  but fingers crossed for a smooth recovery now. X

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Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Devlyn on February 23, 2019, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 23, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
I am "ball-les".  I have very little pain!  Took two Tylenols yesterday and an oxycodone for the night.  I have not taken anything today yet.
I had a little bit of drama, the wound did not stop bleeding, and at 11 PM my friend decided to bring me to the ER.  They were concerned I might have a hematoma and did a ct scan with me.  It turned out that everything was OK, and they coagulated the blood of the wound and put some special packing onto it. About 4 hours later I was back home.  I had no signs of bleeding this morning, but i am pretty weak, I must have lost quite a bit of blood.

It is really great that i have just a little bit of wound pain, but it is very bearable.  I ca not see much bruising in the area.

It is a funny feeling to have not  really much between my legs anymore!  Got to get used to it!

Congratulations on the surgery!! Your NNC membership card is on the way!  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Northern Star Girl on February 23, 2019, 09:52:26 AM
@Dietlind
My Dear Linde:
I have been waiting so very impatiently ;) for you to start get feeling well enough to see a post-surgery update from you.  Thank you from me and the rest of your followers for keeping us informed!!!   We are always concerned for eah other and that includes YOU !!!!

I am so very glad that aside from your "bleeding" scare that your recovery is going well and that your pain and discomfort is at a reasonable level.
Please keep us updated... 
I am so very happy for you that you have passed this "one of several" major milestones in your journey.

Hugs and best wishes,
Danielle


Quote from: Dietlind on February 23, 2019, 09:38:57 AM
I am "ball-les".  I have very little pain!  Took two Tylenols yesterday and an oxycodone for the night.  I have not taken anything today yet.
I had a little bit of drama, the wound did not stop bleeding, and at 11 PM my friend decided to bring me to the ER.  They were concerned I might have a hematoma and did a ct scan with me.  It turned out that everything was OK, and they coagulated the blood of the wound and put some special packing onto it. About 4 hours later I was back home.  I had no signs of bleeding this morning, but i am pretty weak, I must have lost quite a bit of blood.

It is really great that i have just a little bit of wound pain, but it is very bearable.  I ca not see much bruising in the area.

It is a funny feeling to have not  really much between my legs anymore!  Got to get used to it!

Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 23, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Thank you ladies, it is a great feeling to have left the guy's world behind for good!  No return for me anymore!
My next step now is to get all the paperwork sorted out to be officially a SHE!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Maid Marion on February 23, 2019, 10:54:48 AM
Congratulations!  Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: NatalieRene on February 23, 2019, 11:00:45 AM
I am sorry that you had the bleeding scare. I do not expect that bleeding should start again but if it does use caffeinated tea bags to help stop the bleeding. They worked wonders for me when my impacted wisdom teeth where removed.

I hope that you're back up and running quickly. Outside of the paperwork how are you feeling?
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 23, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: NatalieRene on February 23, 2019, 11:00:45 AM
I am sorry that you had the bleeding scare. I do not expect that bleeding should start again but if it does use caffeinated tea bags to help stop the bleeding. They worked wonders for me when my impacted wisdom teeth where removed.

I hope that you're back up and running quickly. Outside of the paperwork how are you feeling?
My feelings did not really change, I think I am still able to go as a man (I might not pass) because I still have no dysphoria
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: LizK on February 23, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
 Congrats on a successful surgery. Complications are never going to be good but it sounds like you have come through okay. Glad to hear you are happy with the results.

Liz


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Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Leslie601 on February 23, 2019, 01:54:07 PM
When I had mine done my partner was concerned I would lose interest in life, which she saw could occur on the stupid internet somewhere. Didn't happen, I'm soo much happier and only wish I had done it sooner! The ups and downs did happen but I got over it fairly quickly, although I'd be willing to bet everyone of our sisters has gone through different stuff I'm sure you will too. I HATED being a guy and didn't like the uber male culture and was glad to be shed of it. From reading your posts I'd bet you'll be happier now (when you're over the recovery) and you'll do fine.

Regards, L
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Quinn on February 23, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
Congrats , glad to hear that everything is going well except for the small hiccup there . was interested to see how yours went I have mine in two weeks on March 11.
Keep us updated

Take care of yourself
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: GordonG on February 23, 2019, 02:31:31 PM
Congrats. And happy healing.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: NatalieRene on February 23, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 23, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
My feelings did not really change, I think I am still able to go as aman (imight not pass) beause I still have no dysphoria

If you don't mind me asking, if you have no dysphoria why are you transitioning? Transition is difficult and for some of leads to discrimination. I went into it hoping I would pass but had no guarantee.

I'm not asking you to validate your decision but I am curious.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 24, 2019, 10:26:06 PM
Quote from: NatalieRene on February 23, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
If you don't mind me asking, if you have no dysphoria why are you transitioning? Transition is difficult and for some of leads to discrimination. I went into it hoping I would pass but had no guarantee.

I'm not asking you to validate your decision but I am curious.
No, I do not have dysphoria, or at least not a crippling version of it.  But remember, I was supposed to be a woman from birth on, and somebody made me into a male.  I lived for many years in the male role, I could never really achieve.  One day the bottle cap blew off, (about 16 or so years ago,), and I just could not do it anymore.  I don't know why, but I started to dislike to be a man very much!  I lived for many years an androgynous lifestyle, until my boobs started to grow.
At that time my entire being wanted to be a woman, and get the body back that was taken from me as a baby.
I lived for so long a fake life as a man (almost like a crossdresser), and I still can do that if it is of advantage, as long as I know that I can fall back into my woman roll.

I don't care about discriminations, I am very asertiv, self confident, and sometimes even aggressive (only verbal, never physical).  I learned this, to enable me to reach the goals that were hard to reach for a guy, who had mostly a woman's body and appearance.  Life trained me with the school of hard knocks!
Passing is not that important for me (but it seems to be rather easy, because of my body, I am starting to have male fails), more important is that I can live the life I was always meant to live.

I don't know if that answers your question?
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 24, 2019, 10:42:50 PM
A little update, when i did a dressing hange earlier today, I must have pulled some coagulated blood off, and the wound started to bleed a little again.  But the ER gave me some special blood coagulating pads to take home, and iput one of them onto the wound.  I checked for blood again about an hour ago, and the bleeding had stopped!  The black and blue coloration down there is almost like a piece of modern art! I have no idea why my entire penis looks like it was dipped into paint!

I am amazed how little pain I had/have, because pain was my biggest concern.  I have to easily say that this was less painfull than facial electrolysis.  I took 2 Tylenols once the surgery numbing went away, and in the evening I took a opioid pill.  I did not take any pain meds yesterday, just another of those opioid pills for the night.  No pain pills during the day today, jut again opioid for the night.
All I feel is some kind of discomfort, when my legs come close together (I think that puts pressure on the packing), and when I bend down.

I have a funny dull pain feeling in my lower belly on the left side (above the pubic hair line).  There are no skin discolorations that indicate any pressure during surgery, and I just wonder what  the reason for that pain could be?

How do I feel?  Not different than prior to the surgery.  I have no clue how long testosterone may linger in my body, and I do not feel anymore female than I did before.  I hope that everything down there will shrink enough to allow me to wear a bathing suit this coming summer!


Anyway, fear of pain is no reason not to have an orchi!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 24, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
Quote from: Quinn on February 23, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
Congrats , glad to hear that everything is going well except for the small hiccup there . was interested to see how yours went I have mine in two weeks on March 11.
Keep us updated

Take care of yourself

Thanks!

If yours is similar to mine, it is an easy peasy ride!  As I wrote, pain is not a big thing (that was my biggest fear), and most people will not have the little ER experience I had.
It was a 4 hour long experience to see how an ER works, because they left the door open to my treatment room - it was almost like on TV!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Northern Star Girl on February 24, 2019, 11:17:41 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 24, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
Thanks!

If yours is similar to mine, it is an easy peasy ride!  As I wrote, pain is not a big thing (that was my biggest fear), and most people will not have the little ER experience I had.
It was a 4 hour long experience to see how an ER works, because they left the door open to my treatment room - it was almost like on TV!

@Dietlind
Dear Linde:
I am so very happy for you and your "easy peasy ride"   .....  even with your ER visit, you had a good surgery experience.   Now it will be interesting to read what your longer term results are for your healing and for your blood test results.

Thank you for keeping your followers updated... we are rooting for you always.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 24, 2019, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on February 24, 2019, 11:17:41 PM
@Dietlind
Dear Linde:
I am so very happy for you and your "easy peasy ride"   .....  even with your ER visit, you had a good surgery experience.   Now it will be interesting to read what your longer term results are for your healing and for your blood test results.

Thank you for keeping your followers updated... we are rooting for you always.
Hugs,
Danielle
I sure will keep the info coming Danielle.  The entire transitioning is like a gigantic adventure for me.  I am one of the lucky persons who seem not to have many problems with dysphoria, and that problems that cause it, get handled and solve point by point.  I tackle my transitioning the same way I used to tackle my lab experiments, find data points that bother the results, and correct them.  I am my own latest medical experiment!
I wish i could share my confidence with members here, who suffer pretty muh during their transition.

I will let you know, when new data points become available!

My next goals along the line are a legal name and Gender Change (for the US and Germany, because I hold dual citizenship).
And after that more bottom work will be tackled (I want a minimal depth vulvoplasti)
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: mm on February 25, 2019, 10:15:20 AM
Dietlind, great you are doing well now after your bleeding problem. With yours being so small can you really tell they are gone? It is amazing how everything in the whole area down there get get black and blue with a little surgery must be all the blood vessels there.  Hope you continue to heal and can get on with your name and gender changes done
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: GordonG on February 25, 2019, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 24, 2019, 10:42:50 PM
A little update, when i did a dressing hange earlier today, I must have pulled some coagulated blood off, and the wound started to bleed a little again.  But the ER gave me some special blood coagulating pads to take home, and iput one of them onto the wound.  I checked for blood again about an hour ago, and the bleeding had stopped!  The black and blue coloration down there is almost like a piece of modern art! I have no idea why my entire penis looks like it was dipped into paint!

I am amazed how little pain I had/have, because pain was my biggest concern.  I have to easily say that this was less painfull than facial electrolysis.  I took 2 Tylenols once the surgery numbing went away, and in the evening I took a opioid pill.  I did not take any pain meds yesterday, just another of those opioid pills for the night.  No pain pills during the day today, jut again opioid for the night.
All I feel is some kind of discomfort, when my legs come close together (I think that puts pressure on the packing), and when I bend down.

I have a funny dull pain feeling in my lower belly on the left side (above the pubic hair line).  There are no skin discolorations that indicate any pressure during surgery, and I just wonder what  the reason for that pain could be?

How do I feel?  Not different than prior to the surgery.  I have no clue how long testosterone may linger in my body, and I do not feel anymore female than I did before.  I hope that everything down there will shrink enough to allow me to wear a bathing suit this coming summer!


Anyway, fear of pain is no reason not to have an orchi!

Glad to hear you're on the mend.

I had no discoloration at all. Maybe it was because of the drains my doctor put it.

About testosterone level,  I read this a while ago.
"Castration time of bilateral orchiectomy ranges from three to twelve hours (mean, 8.6 hours). The biological half-life of serum testosterone was from thirty to sixty minutes (mean, 45 minutes). "

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0090429594901457
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 25, 2019, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: GordonG on February 25, 2019, 10:31:14 AM
Glad to hear you're on the mend.

I had no discoloration at all. Maybe it was because of the drains my doctor put it.

About testosterone level,  I read this a while ago.
"Castration time of bilateral orchiectomy ranges from three to twelve hours (mean, 8.6 hours). The biological half-life of serum testosterone was from thirty to sixty minutes (mean, 45 minutes). "

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0090429594901457
Thanks!  You should be pretty much healed enough to be out and about in the world now.  Can you identify any results from the orchi?  I feel the same as I did before I had it!  The advantage is that I don't need to take spiro anymore, because that stuff did not agree well with me!
According to this, I should have nothing but that little bit of adrenal testosterone left in me, and with the estrogen my hormonal makeup should be petty much female.  I would not be able to identify this, I think, I feel the same as I did since a long time already.

When I read here in different contributions how exited people are to feel the results of estrogen after a few days only, while I am sitting here with no balls and on estrogen for close to 4 month already, not feeling a little bit different than before.
I slowly get the feeling that I am not only intersex, but also  a medictin abnormally!
I am still amazed how little pain I had/have, because the pain was my biggest fear prior to surgery.  Having a paper cut in ones finger hurts more and longer!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: NatalieRene on February 25, 2019, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 24, 2019, 10:26:06 PM
No, I do not have dysphoria, or at least not a crippling version of it.  But remember, I was supposed to be a woman from birth on, and somebody made me into a male.  I lived for many years in the male role, I could never really achieve.  One day the bottle cap blew off, (about 16 or so years ago,), and I just could not do it anymore.  I don't know why, but I started to dislike to be a man very much!  I lived for many years an androgynous lifestyle, until my boobs started to grow.
At that time my entire being wanted to be a woman, and get the body back that was taken from me as a baby.
I lived for so long a fake life as a man (almost like a crossdresser), and I still can do that if it is of advantage, as long as I know that I can fall back into my woman roll.

I don't care about discriminations, I am very asertiv, self confident, and sometimes even aggressive (only verbal, never physical).  I learned this, to enable me to reach the goals that were hard to reach for a guy, who had mostly a woman's body and appearance.  Life trained me with the school of hard knocks!
Passing is not that important for me (but it seems to be rather easy, because of my body, I am starting to have male fails), more important is that I can live the life I was always meant to live.

I don't know if that answers your question?

I think so. :) The main thing is that as you progress you feel better about yourself.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: GordonG on February 25, 2019, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 25, 2019, 11:21:53 AM
Thanks!  You should be pretty much healed enough to be out and about in the world now.  Can you identify any results from the orchi?  I feel the same as I did before I had it!  The advantage is that I don't need to take spiro anymore, because that stuff did not agree well with me!
According to this, I should have nothing but that little bit of adrenal testosterone left in me, and with the estrogen my hormonal makeup should be petty much female.  I would not be able to identify this, I think, I feel the same as I did since a long time already.

When I read here in different contributions how exited people are to feel the results of estrogen after a few days only, while I am sitting here with no balls and on estrogen for close to 4 month already, not feeling a little bit different than before.
I slowly get the feeling that I am not only intersex, but also  a medictin abnormally!
I am still amazed how little pain I had/have, because the pain was my biggest fear prior to surgery.  Having a paper cut in ones finger hurts more and longer!

Once I went back to work the Tuesday after I didn't curtail any physical activity.  Not that I'm a jogger or strenuous exerciser.  And no I don't feel any different either.  Just glad that I'm done with spiro.
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: LizK on February 25, 2019, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 25, 2019, 11:21:53 AM
Thanks!  You should be pretty much healed enough to be out and about in the world now.  Can you identify any results from the orchi?  I feel the same as I did before I had it!  The advantage is that I don't need to take spiro anymore, because that stuff did not agree well with me!
According to this, I should have nothing but that little bit of adrenal testosterone left in me, and with the estrogen my hormonal makeup should be petty much female.  I would not be able to identify this, I think, I feel the same as I did since a long time already.

When I read here in different contributions how exited people are to feel the results of estrogen after a few days only, while I am sitting here with no balls and on estrogen for close to 4 month already, not feeling a little bit different than before.
I slowly get the feeling that I am not only intersex, but also  a medictin abnormally!
I am still amazed how little pain I had/have, because the pain was my biggest fear prior to surgery.  Having a paper cut in ones finger hurts more and longer!

It is so good you are feeling so great this quickly after your surgery. Congratulations on overcoming the fear in the first place. It sounds like you are well and truly on the mend.. Despite you little hiccup in the beginning your recovery continues to be really positive.

Liz


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Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 25, 2019, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: LizK on February 25, 2019, 01:58:16 PM
It is so good you are feeling so great this quickly after your surgery. Congratulations on overcoming the fear in the first place. It sounds like you are well and truly on the mend.. Despite you little hiccup in the beginning your recovery continues to be really positive.

Liz


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Thank you!
Yes, I seem to do pretty well.  I hope my days will be fully normal later this week.  The excess bleeding made me quite week, and I slept a lot the last few days.  I feel pretty Ok now, and i am still amazed how little pain/discomfort I have.  The biggest discomfort is that large chunk of packing I have between my legs, which forces me into a rather funny style of walking!
If they would give grades for dainty and elegant walking, I would get a F-!
Title: Re: Dietlind's orichiectomy
Post by: Linde on February 25, 2019, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: GordonG on February 25, 2019, 01:13:12 PM
Once I went back to work the Tuesday after I didn't curtail any physical activity.  Not that I'm a jogger or strenuous exerciser.  And no I don't feel any different either.  Just glad that I'm done with spiro.
Not to have to take spiro ever again in my life is the most wonderful thing I could hope for.  Spiro started to really mess with my head, and I did not like that at all!