Any Trek fans here?
If so, which is your favourite series and why?
That's like asking a parent of 6 which is their favorite child! I like them all, and each for different reasons.
I kind of lost interest in the series towards the end of TNG, and never really got into any of the follow-ons. When I go back to watch the original series again, I sometimes feel as if it's not quite as ground-breaking as it seemed back then, but I suppose that's true of a lot of older TV and movies.
I guess I associate more with characters, and was drawn to Spock on the original and Data on TNG. In some ways, they're kind of plays on the same basic premise, but I thought they were able to explore things a little more deeply and broadly with Data, so he's probably my very favorite (**looks at my forum name. "duh!"**).
That said, I do love this idea about the original where Kirk, Spock and McCoy represented three aspects of one's internal dialogue, which were separated in the show to have the dialogue expressed out loud instead. Now I have to look at every significant work relationship I've had, and try to find the two closest people to me at the time and assign a Kirk, Spock or McCoy tag on each of us. (Hint: I'm always either McCoy or Spock). I think in the end, the McCoy character got overshadowed by the Kirk/Spock bromance (romance?), and sadly became a kind of third whiny wheel. Sigh.
Erin
I like voyager. Because I haven't really seen the other ones. I did watch a few episodes of the last series. Enterprise I think it was. It totally bored me. There is a new series coming out though.
I like Voyager the most once Kess leaves, she always annoyed me.
DS9 is a close runner up because of all the weird interpersonal relationships. I don't like Sisko compared to Picard and Janway if it wasn't for Sisko DS9 would probably be my favourite
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I liked voyager much better after kess left too. Seven of nine was much more interesting. I like Kate Mulgrew. She's great as red in orange is the new black.
A favorite? I have a favorite....I think...maybe????
I know I love the DS9 Trouble with Tribbles crossover with the original series.
I like DS9 probably the most, until towards the end when they were doing the wormhole aliens thing.
I think Enterprise was my least favorite, some of the things seemed to happen out of order.
Quote from: Julia1996 on June 18, 2017, 07:09:20 PM
I liked voyager much better after kess left too. Seven of nine was much more interesting. I like Kate Mulgrew. She's great as red in orange is the new black.
The only reason I originally started orange was because she was in it. I have to admit I really enjoy it though.
7of9 had a more fleshed out character and it made a huge difference.
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Enterprise was my favorite. A lot of it was Scott Bakula, and also being able to relate to Cmdr. Tucker as a Southerner surrounded by Yankees. Phlox was great too. I guess it was the outsider aspect with him too.
I would definitely rewatch TNG if I had time, though.
DS9 couldn't really compete with Babylon 5 in terms of consistently good writing and cohesive vision, but I enjoyed Sisko for the most part. He reminded me of people I knew and had more charming (and likable) quirks than say, Janeway. Kate Mulgrew...just no.
I personally prefer the original ST series. It was integrated and positive before such concepts
had even hit main stream. Captain Kirk never ever gives up and relied upon his crew to find
unique and appropriate solutions.
The rest of the franchise attempted to touch that original greatness and sometimes some
episodes succeeded.
Babylon 5 was amazing and maybe better than any of the later Treks. The time between
the original ST and B5 was sufficient they should be treated each for their own merits.
I loved the original star trek I am a big fan of Captain James T. Kirk and Spock and read alot of books that went beyond the.series. Did you know Kirk and Spock played alot of chess together.
There is only ONE real Star Trek! Without Gene the rest are only copy-cat posers.
I watched a original star trek episode. It looked so cheesy! Like they would have switches and dials in the future instead of a holographic interface. The female uniforms were kind of cute though.
Quote from: Julia1996 on June 19, 2017, 06:30:17 PM
I watched a original star trek episode. It looked so cheesy! Like they would have switches and dials in the future instead of a holographic interface. The female uniforms were kind of cute though.
It was very low budget as the studio didn't really believe in it and many of the ideas they had latter became reality. Remember that this was before cell phones, Cat scans and MRIs. Even direct video links were very rare and communication was by ground voice lines. Besides that, the quality of the writing is more important than the sets and today we have far to many special effect attempting to make up for lousy writing.
Quote from: Julia1996 on June 19, 2017, 06:30:17 PM
I watched a original star trek episode. It looked so cheesy! Like they would have switches and dials in the future instead of a holographic interface. The female uniforms were kind of cute though.
Yeah. But the stories were great and the show was different than anything at the time.
Back in that day everybody in the family used to sit on the couch and watch the same show at the same time. A second TV in the house was rare. I remember watching episodes over at my cousins house where there were upwards of 15 people sitting around on metal folding chairs watching it on a black and white TV. The stories were always very imaginative and always unique. Today you shell out 15 bucks to see the same star wars sequel over and over and over and over again. They just slap on a new title and rehash the same old story. How many times is the universe going to be saved from the death star? But hey. They have great special effects. Right?
I've probably seen every episode at least 20 times and I've never even watched it on DVD or cable.
Also, how can you be so sure
they won't have switches and dials in the future instead of a holographic interfaces?
The original series and TNG. I have yet to finish DS9 and Voyager; just couldn't get into Enterprise.
The original series is still the best. I am going to New York comic-con in October just because William Shatner will be there, my personal favorite Captain.
Here is a response from someone whom once was a lieutenant commander in the Klingon Assault Group (a fan club).
I personally preferred the DS9 series, just because of all the interpersonal workings through members of different species. It made me wonder why we had so many problems over race right here on Earth. Many of those conflicts are still relevant.
Add to that the peculiar humor with discussions about both the Cardassians and the Kardashians. :-D
I like the Star Trek with Yoda and Hans Solo. Nah, just kidding, the original of course. There was an episode I think called "A Piece of the Action" where they land on a planet that is run like the 1930's Chicago gangster era. It was great watching Spock and Kirk talking like gangsters.
I watched the original airing of the pilot of Star Trek Voyager as a 7 year old kid and became a big fan of the show and all of the Star Trek series. Got away from it as an adult, but have been watching Voyager on Netflix again. I love it!
Quote from: HappyMoni on June 19, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
I like the Star Trek with Yoda and Hans Solo. Nah, just kidding, the original of course. There was an episode I think called "A Piece of the Action" where they land on a planet that is run like the 1930's Chicago gangster era. It was great watching Spock and Kirk talking like gangsters.
Favorite line from Spock: I would advise ya's to keep dialing' Oxymyx.
I can only stand to watch the original Star Trek series.
It was mostly based on the short sci-fi stories I used to read in my dad's bookcase when I was very young.
The other series only annoyed me, and seemed whiny and touchy-feely.
When they were airing TNG was the best. But in retrospect I think DS9 has help up the best over time and is the most nuanced and deepest of the franchise.
1. The decision to put in on a space station allowed for longer and more involved story arcs. Yes in TNG there is the overall development of Data into a more human character, but the remainder of the characters while brilliant were not quite as fleshed out. DS9 you had Sisko and his relationship with Bajor, the prophets, and his son. You had Kira and her transition between her past as a freedom fighter to working within a stable government. You had Dax and her transition between persons (including gender) among people who knew her as her former self. Bashir and his growing up from fresh out of school. Odo and the tension between who he is and who he loves. O'Brien is just kinda O'Brien the whole time, the steady rock. Garak was the reminder with a twist of intrigue.
1.5 You also have much more fleshed out alien races. The Bajorans and the Cardiassians for instance. You learn more about either one of those races individually in this series than you do about any other races in almost all of the other series. You also learn a good deal about the Ferengi and the Klingons. It was a nice change of pace from, oh look the Federation is super-inclusive and all, but you know its really a "homo sapiens only club" to borrow a quote with each episode of the other series made up mostly of just human characters. DS9 by contrast had humans (sisko, o'brien, and bashir) and aliens (kira, odo, dax, quark, worf).
2. The decision to put in on a former Cardassian space station was also brilliant. In TNG, TOS, and even Voyager the big baddies (Borg, Q, Klingons, Romulans) only ever had direct presences in the story. If there weren't Romulans directly in the episode they rarely had any role to play. Putting the series on a Cardassian space station and having the Cardiassians be (really the ultimate) baddies was great, because it meant they were always around even when they weren't. It was a space station designed by them so you always had visual cues reminding you of the foreign nature of the series existence. Also, having Garak around served to further enforce this point.
TNG is my *absolute* favourite. My reasons? Here I go:
1- The space exploring theme is very very appealing to me. In fact, it is maybe my favourite topic when it comes to science-fiction. As an exploration and diplomacy-oriented vessel, USS Enterprise D fits just perfectly for it. Discovering mysterious dyson spheres, dealing with rogue AI issues, navigating deep space areas while avoiding ionizing radiation hazards, dealing with warp engine limitations (they are magic fast but not teleportation), applying safe and non-lethal solutions when stumbled upon foes, looking for our DNA origins in distant worlds... amazing. Just amazing.
2- Captain Picard is just... perfectly well-balanced without falling in the "too perfect hero" cliche. Authoritative but not plain and still accesible and empathizing, wise but willing to make quick choices without enough information if found in dire straits, almost as sharp, clever and insightful at analyzing as Data (who outpowers him when it comes to sheer processing capacity)... and I can go on. While he probably didn't experience much of an evolution throughout the whole series, his character is so dense that you really need several seasons to really get to know him. Plus, Patrick Stewart (Royal Shakespeare Company member) is no joke, he's a really good (and good looking lol) experienced actor.
3- There is enough evolution and good taste in characters (really charismatic). To me, Data is just brilliant. I even had a crush on him lol. His evolution throughout the series is amazing as my namesake @kasspurple pointed out. Plus, holy molly, he's literally a sex-machine ;D He's one of the more charming approaches to full AI androids I have ever seen. Worf experiences a lot of evolution too. Troi experienced a lot of maturing too. Crusher (oh boy he was so cute... another teen crush lol) and LaForge were rather nice characters although they were not as deep as others.
4- While pointed out as a downside by other posters, I find quite appropiate not focusing too much on relationships between characters when it comes to this kind of science fiction. It's just my opinion, but after all (specially when it comes to humans)... people is people, just placed with better tools (better technology) in more exotic (spacial) scenarios. So for me, the real crux is in novelty and discoveries rather than in (somewhat predictable) squabbles between the guys.
Taking a look at the other series... my thoughts:
-TOS: As another poster said, just way cheesy to me. Also didn't like much Captain Kirk character. Many shallow stories.
-ENT: Same as with TOS but for the cheesy part. I don't like Archer that much. I don't like the pre-federation era (losses a lot of interest).
-VOY: While I love Kate Mulgrow as Red in OITB, I don't like Janeway character. Same for the rest of the crew, I miss so much a charismatic crew... The first season bored me, so I didn't get further.
-DS9: I saw several seasons, but the fact being on a space station instead of a space ship... is a big downside for me (no space exploration). Also, even when introducing many new alien races may sound like a good idea... the vast majority of them were so much anthropomorphic for my taste (in fact this is something I dislike about all the ST series) that it lost the point.
By the way, sorry for the lenghty post :D
Quote from: Wednesday on June 20, 2017, 01:21:00 PM
4- While pointed out as a downside by other posters, I find quite appropiate not focusing too much on relationships between characters when it comes to this kind of science fiction. It's just my opinion, but after all (specially when it comes to humans)... people is people, just placed with better tools (better technology) in more exotic (spacial) scenarios. So for me, the real crux is in novelty and discoveries rather than in (somewhat predictable) squabbles between the guys.
I would disagree. I think TNG focused on character relationships quite a bit. Picard/Data (mentor), Riker/Troi (lovers), Crusher/Crusher (family), Troi/Worf (lovers), Worf/Alexander (family), Geordi/Data (friends), Picard/Dr. Crusher (friends/more than friends?), Picard/Guinan (friends). You could even include Troi/her Mother. There were many episode that dealt with those relationships and where those relationships played a central role. Picard/Data even carries over to the movies as does Riker/Troi. Not trying to ruin anything for you, just a thought.
Quote from: kasspurple on June 20, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
I would disagree. I think TNG focused on character relationships quite a bit.
Keep in mind there weren't so many characters onboard the ship and we're talking about 7 seasons. Its true a number of episodes were centered of character relationships, but I felt that many were mostly "arc filling" episodes; they were the exception, not the rule. Also, some of the relationships were pretty shallow or almost purely platonic.
Always felt relationship plots were very secondary, oftenly a mere resource to "spicing things up" a bit from time to time.
I liked all of them, though I don't really like the reboot movies(only saw the first one).
I would really much rather see a next, next generation that took place after DS9 and Voyager. I guess the writers are too lazy to invent new characters and even more advanced technology.
Quote from: VeronicaLynn on June 20, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
I would really much rather see a next, next generation that took place after DS9 and Voyager. I guess the writers are too lazy to invent new characters and even more advanced technology.
Oh, this would be really interesting. But if we want a real "next, next generation" I think it should be "Galactic Trek" instead of "Star Trek" lol.
In ST series they are between Kardashev II-III levels: inter-stellar travel capability, extensive colonies through really vast areas of the Milky Way, a great portion of the galaxy successfully navigated and mapped... Most sci-fi topics regarding this technology levels had been addressed. Going further may involve inter-galactic travel capability (no joke distances, really away from the actual warp engines possibilities), fully level III development (aiming for ultra-hyper-mega-futuristic level IV)... I think it may easily lose its continuity with the actual series, but it really looks as an awesome idea!
Quote from: kasspurple on June 20, 2017, 11:45:14 AM
When they were airing TNG was the best. But in retrospect I think DS9 has help up the best over time and is the most nuanced and deepest of the franchise.
1. The decision to put in on a space station allowed for longer and more involved story arcs. Yes in TNG there is the overall development of Data into a more human character, but the remainder of the characters while brilliant were not quite as fleshed out. DS9 you had Sisko and his relationship with Bajor, the prophets, and his son. You had Kira and her transition between her past as a freedom fighter to working within a stable government. You had Dax and her transition between persons (including gender) among people who knew her as her former self. Bashir and his growing up from fresh out of school. Odo and the tension between who he is and who he loves. O'Brien is just kinda O'Brien the whole time, the steady rock. Garak was the reminder with a twist of intrigue.
1.5 You also have much more fleshed out alien races. The Bajorans and the Cardiassians for instance. You learn more about either one of those races individually in this series than you do about any other races in almost all of the other series. You also learn a good deal about the Ferengi and the Klingons. It was a nice change of pace from, oh look the Federation is super-inclusive and all, but you know its really a "homo sapiens only club" to borrow a quote with each episode of the other series made up mostly of just human characters. DS9 by contrast had humans (sisko, o'brien, and bashir) and aliens (kira, odo, dax, quark, worf).
2. The decision to put in on a former Cardassian space station was also brilliant. In TNG, TOS, and even Voyager the big baddies (Borg, Q, Klingons, Romulans) only ever had direct presences in the story. If there weren't Romulans directly in the episode they rarely had any role to play. Putting the series on a Cardassian space station and having the Cardiassians be (really the ultimate) baddies was great, because it meant they were always around even when they weren't. It was a space station designed by them so you always had visual cues reminding you of the foreign nature of the series existence. Also, having Garak around served to further enforce this point.
I agree. DS9 was my favorite. On most of the Star Treks, they'd swoop in, solve a problem, and leave. DS9 you got to see the result of a decision one week have unintended results down the line. No Deus Ex Machina mechanisms that didn't have to have logical relevance on an ongoing basis (unless you count the wormhole gods.)
I did love TNG - I avoided it and resented it for a year or two for trying to recreate the original. I finally got on board and was glad I did. The juxtaposition between Kirk and Picard played out on a stage of action vs thoughtful response still has a lot to teach us.
I loved ST TOS as a kid. The idea of going out into space captured my imagination, and I got to watch it with my Dad. Spock was the template by which I dealt with my gender issues for a long time, even though I only realize that looking back. I thought the world would be a better place if people acted more on logic and less on emotion. I pushed down a lot of things in the category of emotion and somehow made it into my adult years. I am amused to look back and realize the role Spock played in my life.
Someone else made mention of Babylon 5 and I will too. This was an amazing series that made good use of CGI to control development costs and deliver a quality product week in and week out. The epic nature of the story made this a really special run. JMS (one of the drivers behind Sense8) was the brains behind this project and it was the best written sci-fi program ever produced, even to this day. Ivanava is still my favorite officer on a space ship, bar none.
Voyager was my least favorite and I stopped watching a few seasons after Kes was written out. Enterprise was a prequel - I watched it, but I am more interested on something being written on a blank slate and not knowing where it might be headed. The next Star Trek on dock is of the prequel variety as well, so I am less excited now about a new Star Trek than I was when I first heard.
Quote from: LindseyP on June 20, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
I agree. DS9 was my favorite. On most of the Star Treks, they'd swoop in, solve a problem, and leave. DS9 you got to see the result of a decision one week have unintended results down the line. No Deus Ex Machina mechanisms that didn't have to have logical relevance on an ongoing basis (unless you count the wormhole gods.)
This was also something I enjoyed about DS9 over the other series. The continuity. Too often the other series felt like, wait what happened last week? There was a whole episode of TNG where they learned warp drive was bad for the environment and they were going to limit warp speeds, but that seemingly went out the window the next week.
Quote from: kasspurple on June 20, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
This was also something I enjoyed about DS9 over the other series. The continuity. Too often the other series felt like, wait what happened last week? There was a whole episode of TNG where they learned warp drive was bad for the environment and they were going to limit warp speeds, but that seemingly went out the window the next week.
That episode was probably the worst written episode ever. They did in future episodes ask permission to go faster than Warp 7 or so, but only a couple of times.
I started with the 2009 movie and fell in love. Still working my way through TOS, but I love it so much!!
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TOS is masterfully unique, and represented numerous important firsts in TV of the era. Despite the often visibly low budget scenery and props, I remain fascinated by it and have seen each episode dozens and dozens of times over the years.
If you have not seen the CBS re-issue of the series (available on DVD or on-line through Netflix) you are missing a real treat. This is exquisitely digitally remastered film from the original '60s TOS with all the special effects graphics and music replaced by (1) modern high impact, high resolution CGI digital graphics and (2) new performance, newly recorded theme music and soundtrack. It is spectacular. Not to be missed by ANY Star Trek enthusiast.
I wonder if anyone else noticed this. Everyone knows in the original, the guys who beam down to the planet with red shirts on are doomed, right? Watching recently, I noticed that just about everyone of importance not in a tan uniform was dead in real life. Kirk and SooLu, Checkoff, tan uniforms, alive.
Moni
I remember watching TOS when it was originally broadcast. (Yeah I'm old) They had these desk top computers that talked, tablets to read on and these flip open communication devices. My comment was, "Yeah, right. Not in my lifetime." I was wrong.
Among the series TOS is still probably my favorite along with Enterprise. Then TNG and Voyager with DS9 as my least favorite. That whole Prophet thing just annoyed me. I have TOS, Voyager, Enterprise and the Animated series on DVD. Animated is ok.
The autograph I love most in my collection I got at work at Delta. He was traveling out on a flight and he wrote, "To (male name), Live Long and Prosper. Gene Roddenberry."
Quote from: BeverlyAnn on July 15, 2017, 02:30:36 AM
I remember watching TOS when it was originally broadcast. (Yeah I'm old) They had these desk top computers that talked, tablets to read on and these flip open communication devices. My comment was, "Yeah, right. Not in my lifetime." I was wrong.
Your still wrong ;D All those functions are combined in an iPhone and other mobile devices. They kind of overshot the size thing. ;D
For about half of my life in computers, I never envisioned one day I would be carrying what was in those days a super computer around in my pocket. Cat scans modern ultra sound and MRIs have given us the ability to examine the inside of the body without exploratory surgery. Now if we could just get the warp drive thing worked out.
Quote from: Dena on July 15, 2017, 09:58:12 AM
Now if we could just get the warp drive thing worked out.
Keep an eye on research being done on the Alcubierre metric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive) and in particular the measurement experiments with the White-Juday warp field interferometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White%E2%80%93Juday_warp-field_interferometer). It's a long, long way from theory to engineering practice, but we'll get the first hints within our lifetime, I think.
Quote from: Michelle_P on July 15, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
Keep an eye on research being done on the Alcubierre metric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive) and in particular the measurement experiments with the White-Juday warp field interferometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White%E2%80%93Juday_warp-field_interferometer). It's a long, long way from theory to engineering practice, but we'll get the first hints within our lifetime, I think.
Michelle, you forgot the research on the hot tub time machine.
Moni
Late to this thread.
I recall the very first episode when it was released in the UK. My sister was on the phone, which was a bakelite or plastic thing with a dial in the hallway, and she broke up with her first boyfriend and then came into the lounge room with fake tears saying - 'I told him that Spock was on TV and I was in love with him instead of you - now what's happening?'
Ah young love!
Quote from: Dena on July 15, 2017, 09:58:12 AM
Now if we could just get the warp drive thing worked out.
I'm waiting on the transporter. I mean if they can disassemble you in one spot and reassemble you in another, why couldn't there be just a slight modification of the program running the transporter to reassemble you a little differently? Five foot two, eyes of blue? ;)
Quote from: BeverlyAnn on July 15, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
I'm waiting on the transporter. I mean if they can disassemble you in one spot and reassemble you in another, why couldn't there be just a slight modification of the program running the transporter to reassemble you a little differently? Five foot two, eyes of blue? ;)
They did that in Next Generation where the away team returned to the ship as children. Besides that, I have one blue eye and one brown and I like being different.
Quote from: Dena on July 15, 2017, 01:33:42 PM
They did that in Next Generation where the away team returned to the ship as children. Besides that, I have one blue eye and one brown and I like being different.
And not to forget what Borg customized nanoprobes (VOY) can do for you!
I came across deepspace nine on Netflix so I decided to check it out. I totally didn't like OT at all. All the stuff with the profits and all was really annoying and boring.
Julia
Quote from: Julia1996 on July 29, 2017, 10:58:57 AM
I came across deepspace nine on Netflix so I decided to check it out. I totally didn't like OT at all. All the stuff with the profits and all was really annoying and boring.
Julia
It gets better in the later seasons. Like most Star Trek series, it starts off slowly. But they go to total war in the later seasons.
Quote from: baseballfan on July 29, 2017, 12:41:06 PM
It gets better in the later seasons. Like most Star Trek series, it starts off slowly. But they go to total war in the later seasons.
No starship wandering through the galaxy, no fun :D
Quote from: Wednesday on July 29, 2017, 01:13:23 PM
No starship wandering through the galaxy, no fun :D
Fair enough. Voyager is actually my favorite since I grew up watching it. Went back and watched DS9 recently on Netflix and I appreciated it more as an adult than I did as kid. The characters are maybe the best in all of Trek imo, and they really explore some adult themes with war, sacrifice and humanity (ie what would it take for the human race to abandon its principles) that went way over my head as a kid. Honestly watching it in 2016-17 there were a lot of points the show made that really hit close to home on today's political situation.
Quote from: baseballfan on July 29, 2017, 06:44:56 PM
Fair enough. Voyager is actually my favorite since I grew up watching it. Went back and watched DS9 recently on Netflix and I appreciated it more as an adult than I did as kid. The characters are maybe the best in all of Trek imo, and they really explore some adult themes with war, sacrifice and humanity (ie what would it take for the human race to abandon its principles) that went way over my head as a kid. Honestly watching it in 2016-17 there were a lot of points the show made that really hit close to home on today's political situation.
Voyager is my favorite too plus it's the only series that I've seen all the episodes. I did watch the last one with Scott what's his name. It was so slow and totally not impressive so I only watched like 3 of those. I have watched a couple from the original series but I found the special effects totally cheesy. I know it was like a low budget show and for the 50s I guess the effects were ok I just couldn't get into it. There is a new series coming out so maybe that one will be good.
Quote from: baseballfan on July 29, 2017, 06:44:56 PM
Fair enough. Voyager is actually my favorite since I grew up watching it. Went back and watched DS9 recently on Netflix and I appreciated it more as an adult than I did as kid. The characters are maybe the best in all of Trek imo, and they really explore some adult themes with war, sacrifice and humanity (ie what would it take for the human race to abandon its principles) that went way over my head as a kid. Honestly watching it in 2016-17 there were a lot of points the show made that really hit close to home on today's political situation.
Yup. I recently watched the full 7 seasons of VOY and I have to admit that it has its charm. Anyway my absolutely favourite still is TNG. On the other hand I think I saw half a dozen DS9 episodes then I gave up but I might give it another try.
To be honest first two VOY seasons were not really that good imho, but since 3rd season the thing improved a lot, specially 4th and 5th seasons. 6th was just OK, and 7th... I didn't like how they closed, but it wasn't a disaster either. I also have to point that, unlike in TNG, they really abuse time travel on VOY lol (something I just cant stand in scifi lol). Got to admit the characters were good, but I still prefer Data over 7of9 and Picard over Janeway.
About character relationships... come on! :D So much closeness throghout the entire series between Janeway and Chakotay... and he ends up dating 7of9! ??? No way! Janeway ends having two anecdotal romances with an hologram programed by her (I have to admit the idea as interesting at least lol) and a secondary character after losing part of her memories? No no no! >:( Doc ending up with a trophy wife in last episode? Nonsense! The only couple that made sense to me were Tom and B'Elanna (they're just like a couple I know in real life lol).
Quote from: Julia1996
There is a new series coming out so maybe that one will be good.
I wish, but I prefer to keep my expectations low lol. Anyway I'm really looking forward into it.
Quote from: Julia1996 on July 29, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
Voyager is my favorite too plus it's the only series that I've seen all the episodes. I did watch the last one with Scott what's his name. It was so slow and totally not impressive so I only watched like 3 of those. I have watched a couple from the original series but I found the special effects totally cheesy. I know it was like a low budget show and for the 50s I guess the effects were ok I just couldn't get into it. There is a new series coming out so maybe that one will be good.
I am sad :( Scott Bakula is a truly great actor and proved it in Quantum Leap. Each week he had to play a different character including on several occasions, women.
Quote from: Dena on July 29, 2017, 07:33:52 PM
I am sad :( Scott Bakula is a truly great actor and proved it in Quantum Leap. Each week he had to play a different character including on several occasions, women.
What's quantum leap? I didn't know he was in anything else but that star trek. I didn't mean the acting was bad. Just the stories were slow and boring. I always thought it was dumb that the had a transporter but were afraid to put people in it. Lol
Quantum Leap (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096684/?ref_=nv_sr_1). It's about not knowing his name and not about the writing ;D
Oh ok. That seems like it would be a cool show. Wow, he was pretty hot when he was young.
He was!
To me even today he's got his charm!
Quote from: Julia1996 on July 29, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
Voyager is my favorite too plus it's the only series that I've seen all the episodes. I did watch the last one with Scott what's his name. It was so slow and totally not impressive so I only watched like 3 of those. I have watched a couple from the original series but I found the special effects totally cheesy. I know it was like a low budget show and for the 50s I guess the effects were ok I just couldn't get into it. There is a new series coming out so maybe that one will be good.
I agree with you on the Original. I don't know how it made it so big (although it was the 60's not 50's). I suppose it is just one of those things as someone who was born in the 80s and grew up in the 90s I just cant appreciate it. Like how I love the 90s sitcoms I grew up with but the new generation probably things they're dumb and dated (which they are but I love them anyway).
The new series looks promising but you'll have to pay for CBS All-Access to watch it. We'll see how that goes. People who get subscriptions will be getting them simply for the show, as there is little reason to sign up otherwise. I will probably be one of them.
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Yup. I recently watched the full 7 seasons of VOY and I have to admit that it has its charm. Anyway my absolutely favourite still is TNG. On the other hand I think I saw half a dozen DS9 episodes then I gave up but I might give it another try.
To be honest first two VOY seasons were not really that good imho, but since 3rd season the thing improved a lot, specially 4th and 5th seasons. 6th was just OK, and 7th... I didn't like how they closed, but it wasn't a disaster either. I also have to point that, unlike in TNG, they really abuse time travel on VOY lol (something I just cant stand in scifi lol). Got to admit the characters were good, but I still prefer Data over 7of9 and Picard over Janeway.
About character relationships... come on! :D So much closeness throghout the entire series between Janeway and Chakotay... and he ends up dating 7of9! ??? No way! Janeway ends having two anecdotal romances with an hologram programed by her (I have to admit the idea as interesting at least lol) and a secondary character after losing part of her memories? No no no! >:( Doc ending up with a trophy wife in last episode? Nonsense! The only couple that made sense to me were Tom and B'Elanna (they're just like a couple I know in real life lol).
I wish, but I prefer to keep my expectations low lol. Anyway I'm really looking forward into it.
I would agree with you about Voyager not taking off until season 3. Although I would say the same about TNG and DS9. The first season of TNG was especially brutal. It is amazing that show made it past the first season. I love all three shows so I wont try to trash one of them. I like Voyager the best, then probably TNG and DS9....but they're all pretty great.
Yeah it was weird that Janeway had relationships with holographic characters.....I agree with that. Although you could argue as the captain it would be unethical for her to date other members of the crew. Janeway and Chakotay made a lot of sense though. I also like Tom and Torres.....agree that was the best relationship on the show. I am glad they didn't have everyone pair off though. Overall, though, I agree with most of what you said.
Ohhhh, interesting stuff here! I was once a HUGE Star Trek. I've: watched the original series episodes many, many times over—seen all movies—went to the conventions—watched all the series, other than really the
last one (although this one really did have its moments)—and have easily read over a dozen ST novels.
I love most of the other shows, but without the original series vision and "magic" The rest of it wouldn't exist (somewhat like the charisma of the first James Bond). How interesting that the much maligned (by Trek fans) Voyager is getting quite a few votes here!
Somewhat sadly, I have kind of outgrown StarTrek fandom; I've largely decided inner space is at least as interesting as outer space. And the probable reality of long space voyages has taken a good deal of the romance out of it (LOTS of recycling—ewwww). However, I love the new movies and take on Star Trek, and I hear there's going to be a new series this fall, hmmmm.....?
Wheeeeeeeeee!!
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Yeah it was weird that Janeway had relationships with holographic characters.....I agree with that.
Yeah! It was like, she was a powerful character, I was expecting she was going for the most alpha guy on that side of the galaxy and... gets caught with a low-end hologram? ??? Hello? :D Also I got really puzzled bout Chakotay since both had some "really almost there" moments even in the first seasons, can't get why screenwithers weren't for that one.
Quote from: baseballfanI am glad they didn't have everyone pair off though. Overall, though, I agree with most of what you said.
Agreed! Actually they made quite a few, and all of them in the final seasons (what turned maybe a little bit forced imho).
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and have easily read over a dozen ST novels.
That's definitely going for more lore! :D
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How interesting that the much maligned (by Trek fans) Voyager is getting quite a few votes here!
If those unfortunated fanboys get here to mess I got all my no-joke-rock-hard scifi stuff ready :3 lol haha
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And the probable reality of long space voyages has taken a good deal of the romance out of it (LOTS of recycling—ewwww).
Aw, don't say that!
I'm really always on the optimistic side, but interstellar travel is no joke though. Fastest thing we got out there is Juno at 0.025% the speed of light (right now getting Jupiter's orbit boost). Stepping one magnitude order up we would still be at 2.45% speed of light, no way to go.
If my guess is right, one of our best choices would be developing the bussard ramjet but is expected to get 20% spl at best and we would still need to develop plenty of stuff to build the fusion engine. Alpha Centauri holiday (what may not have nothing more than boring asteroids on its orbit lol) would be a 40 years trip (including coming back). Not practical without bringing before a pretty big human lifespan extension :'( Not even to speak about reaching farest stars! :'(
I'm just conjecturing, but I can't see getting 70-80% spl anytime soon, and it would be slow yet >.<
For going faster than light (if even possible) phew... my bet it won't be happening before getting at least 2 more math/phys paradigm changes (like from classical to relativistic mechanics) plus a hella good engineering (and if you ask me, we need get gravity right and then the rest of the subatomical framework neatly integrated to fully complete the actual change of paradigm).
An awful lot of work! D'oh! :laugh:
The warp drive doesn't work by allowing you to travel faster than light. What it does is to compress space so you can travel vastly large distances at sub light speed. It's kind of along the idea of a worm hole except instead of a short cut, you still travel through space but the distances is much smaller. Now imagine what would happen if you activated the warp drive with a planet in the warp field.
The energy required to compress space would be enormous and that's why they suggest a matter/anti matter reaction to power the ship.
Quote from: Dena on July 31, 2017, 03:08:05 AM
The warp drive doesn't work by allowing you to travel faster than light. What it does is to compress space so you can travel vastly large distances at sub light speed. It's kind of along the idea of a worm hole except instead of a short cut, you still travel through space but the distances is much smaller. Now imagine what would happen if you activated the warp drive with a planet in the warp field.
The energy required to compress space would be enormous and that's why they suggest a matter/anti matter reaction to power the ship.
That's right! I think navigation/flight computers would be a challenge in warping travels, a pretty big one. Excuse the mistake, I was using FTL term pretty loosely!
Definitely the mat/antimat is full efficiency fuel, but costs to produce antimat are no joke either!
Just conjecturing, maybe in a couple of shifts with really more advanced math/phys it would be possible to do the warp trick without going through "classical" energy generation procedures, but I know this is more fantasy than serious speculation right now :D
Anyway, for example, giving the existence of time-space singularities, it looks like we may get a tiny chance to get to learn nice surprises about more deep and exotic universe dynamics and energy gent/management. I really wish!
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Now imagine what would happen if you activated the warp drive with a planet in the warp field.
Definitely I wouldn't want to be in that bridge when happening that. Not even if I were wearing a fully ready and pressurized space suit :D
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No starship wandering through the galaxy, no fun :D
They did get the Defiant in later seasons. Besides, interesting aliens came to them, as DS9 was right next to the wormhole.
What I wouldn't give to have Odo's species's ability to shapeshift...I wouldn't use it quite like he did though...
I like all the series. Enterprise and Voyager are the weakest.
DS9 is almost a category of its own. In my opinion, it had by far the best writing and best acting. I won't get into the debate about whether it's really true to the spirit of Trek, but I LOVE it.
Enterprise only really showed its potential in season 4. It started to feel more like Trek at that point, and it definitely felt like the writers were having fun.
I loved the character of Trip in Enterprise. Malcolm Reed and Travis Mayweather were both pretty weak. Phlox was ok as comic relief. Hoshi was nice enough I guess. T'Pol was a mix. Archer just annoyed me most of the time.
Well who else has watched Discovery? Remember no spoilers because people may not have seen the first 2 episodes yet but let's see what people though?? Remember no spoilers!!
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Well who else has watched Discovery? Remember no spoilers because people may not have seen the first 2 episodes yet but let's see what people though?? Remember no spoilers!!
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I watched it and I was not impressed. The special effects were really good but startrek has been around since the 50s and they couldn't come up with something new for the plot? I haven't even seen that many star trek episodes from any of the series but even I know the stupid klingons have been in all the series since the first one. Come on, think up something new! And my god, listening to the klingons talk was totally annoying! It was like listening to a bunch of people with the flu trying to hock up goobers. And finally in every star trek show and movie I've seen klingons were totally ugly but they always looked the same. The klingons on this new show look reptilian. What's up with that? If it hadn't been for my boyfriend and dad I wouldn't have even watched the second episode. I didn't like this show and I won't watch it again voluntarily.
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 25, 2017, 05:47:18 AM
I watched it and I was not impressed. The special effects were really good but startrek has been around since the 50s and they couldn't come up with something new for the plot? I haven't even seen that many star trek episodes from any of the series but even I know the stupid klingons have been in all the series since the first one. Come on, think up something new! And my god, listening to the klingons talk was totally annoying! It was like listening to a bunch of people with the flu trying to hock up goobers. And finally in every star trek show and movie I've seen klingons were totally ugly but they always looked the same. The klingons on this new show look reptilian. What's up with that? If it hadn't been for my boyfriend and dad I wouldn't have even watched the second episode. I didn't like this show and I won't watch it again voluntarily.
You don't like Vegemite and don't like The new Star Trek... I'm really starting to worry about you Julia :P
I agree that the Klingons new appearance drove me insane.. and I'm 99% sure (I don't know why I'm admitting to this) but that is not the same language, it's been a while since I conversed with anyone in Klingon but I was relying on the subtitles because it didn't match the Klingon I learnt.
Any who enough of me admitting to knowing way to much about sci-fi shows.
I didn't mind the story to much but it feels more BSG then Star Trek.
It would have been nice for it to be set after voyager but it isn't so they don't have a huge amount of options because the timeline they have chosen was all ready really fleshed out.
The choice of making it a prequel annoys me greatly, prequels never work.. Enterprise was a flop and Let's not mention Star Wars..
With all that said I'm going to give it a chance I enjoyed it and I'm still just happy to have any Star Trek back on TV. I'll see where it goes, as it always takes a few episodes for the writers and actors to get feel for things.
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Quote from: Tammy Jade on September 25, 2017, 06:01:49 AM
You don't like Vegemite and don't like The new Star Trek... I'm really starting to worry about you Julia :P
I agree that the Klingons new appearance drove me insane.. and I'm 99% sure (I don't know why I'm admitting to this) but that is not the same language, it's been a while since I conversed with anyone in Klingon but I was relying on the subtitles because it didn't match the Klingon I learnt.
Any who enough of me admitting to knowing way to much about sci-fi shows.
I didn't mind the story to much but it feels more BSG then Star Trek.
It would have been nice for it to be set after voyager but it isn't so they don't have a huge amount of options because the timeline they have chosen was all ready really fleshed out.
The choice of making it a prequel annoys me greatly, prequels never work.. Enterprise was a flop and Let's not mention Star Wars..
With all that said I'm going to give it a chance I enjoyed it and I'm still just happy to have any Star Trek back on TV. I'll see where it goes, as it always takes a few episodes for the writers and actors to get feel for things.
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You speak and understand klingon and you're worried about me? (Just kidding, haha) Now I really liked BSG and Caprica. But then my dad said he remembered watching reruns of BSG when he would come home from school. It seems there was a BSG from the 70s. From the YouTube clips I saw it was totally cheesy!! But back to Discovery, I will say the special effects are very good. They seemed more like the special effects I've seen in star trek movies than the shows. I was dissapointed with the story though. But if I like it or not I know I"m going to end up watching it because my boyfriend, dad and brother liked it so I'm going to have to watch it with them. Oh well, it's not as bad as watching Tristan eat his vegemite. Lol
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 25, 2017, 06:27:49 AM
You speak and understand klingon and you're worried about me? (Just kidding, haha) Now I really liked BSG and Caprica. But then my dad said he remembered watching reruns of BSG when he would come home from school. It seems there was a BSG from the 70s. From the YouTube clips I saw it was totally cheesy!! But back to Discovery, I will say the special effects are very good. They seemed more like the special effects I've seen in star trek movies than the shows. I was dissapointed with the story though. But if I like it or not I know I"m going to end up watching it because my boyfriend, dad and brother liked it so I'm going to have to watch it with them. Oh well, it's not as bad as watching Tristan eat his vegemite. Lol
I can vouch for the cheesyness of original BSG I accidentally bought it instead of season 1 new BSG back in the day when we still had a local DVD shop.
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Quote from: LilyMelody on August 07, 2017, 11:17:27 AM
Archer just annoyed me most of the time.
I agree! I don't believe that anyone so whiny would be appointed to command such an important and dangerous mission. I admire the courage of real astronauts and submariners, but from what I've heard, they have the emotions of Pet Rocks.
I liked all of the Star Trek series, though. Deep Space 9 was my least favourite, perhaps because I suspected that the real reason the crew never travelled to other planets was that building new sets, for every new culture and environment, is expensive. Voyager had my favourite theme music. Also, Seven of Nine asking Ensign Kim "Do you wish to copulate?" was probably a first for family TV.
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I agree! I don't believe that anyone so whiny would be appointed to command such an important and dangerous mission. I admire the courage of real astronauts and submariners, but from what I've heard, they have the emotions of Pet Rocks.
I liked all of the Star Trek series, though. Deep Space 9 was my least favourite, perhaps because I suspected that the real reason the crew never travelled to other planets was that building new sets, for every new culture and environment, is expensive. Voyager had my favourite theme music. Also, Seven of Nine asking Ensign Kim "Do you wish to copulate?" was probably a first for family TV.
I watched a few episodes of enterprise thinking it would get better. But it didn't. I'm not a die hard startrek fan but this was the first star trek that actually bored me. And the ship was so ugly! It looked like what I imagine a prison to look like. It was so small and seemed so cramped! If I lived in the future a ship would need to be spacious and pretty for me to want to live on it. Then I decided to check out ds9 on Netflix a few months ago. I immediately didn't like it because of the whole religious thing with the wrinkle nose people. I can't remember what they were called. I liked voyager a lot. It got even better after they booted Kes off and got seven of nine.
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Putting the series on a Cardassian space station and having the Cardiassians be (really the ultimate) baddies ...
Especially Kim Cardassian.
Sorry.
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Especially Kim Cardassian.
Sorry.
Ugh! She and Justin Bieber. I would like to flush them both out an airlock and watch them explode in space. Or implode, whatever happens when someone is exposed to space.
Just off of the few comments about the new series, I'm glad I didn't watch it, and won't be paying to watch them....ever. I am especially disappointed in the rumor that they are not using the Klingon language for the Klingons. I may not know much of it, but I do know that it is a fully realized language.
Quote from: Artesia on September 25, 2017, 09:05:00 AM
Just off of the few comments about the new series, I'm glad I didn't watch it, and won't be paying to watch them....ever. I am especially disappointed in the rumor that they are not using the Klingon language for the Klingons. I may not know much of it, but I do know that it is a fully realized language.
I don't know what the klingon language is supposed to sound like but that annoying mess on Discovery sounds like the sounds someone would make trying to talk after their tongue had been cut out.
Quote from: MaryT on September 25, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
Especially Kim Cardassian.
Sorry.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks of Kim when ever I hear Cardassian
DS9 gets better as it goes, the last 3 seasons are really good, I always find the early seasons a little bit meh.
Once Worf joins that seems to be the turning point.
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Quote from: Julia1996 on September 25, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
I don't know what the klingon language is supposed to sound like but that annoying mess on Discovery sounds like the sounds someone would make trying to talk after their tongue had been cut out.
I can't exactly explain it. It is a guttural language. Someone who speaks it would be better at that. Watch some of the original movies for what it should sound like.
I can't help but wonder if this tribe of Klingons are going to mate with the forehead ridgeless Klingons with short hair and goatees from TOS and that's how they ended up looking like Worf.
I don't think I'll be subscribing for this series. Maybe some channel will show the reruns eventually.
Quote from: VeronicaLynn on September 26, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
I can't help but wonder if this tribe of Klingons are going to mate with the forehead ridgeless Klingons with short hair and goatees from TOS and that's how they ended up looking like Worf.
I don't think I'll be subscribing for this series. Maybe some channel will show the reruns eventually.
Yeah, it's not worth it. It's $5.99 a month and it still isn't worth it. There is nothing else of interest on that site unless you're into reruns of shows on CBS. And anything you watch there has ALL the commercials unless you pay 10.99 a month. My dad got it just to watch Discovery but it's a total rip off.
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 26, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Yeah, it's not worth it. It's $5.99 a month and it still isn't worth it. There is nothing else of interest on that site unless you're into reruns of shows on CBS. And anything you watch there has ALL the commercials unless you pay 10.99 a month. My dad got it just to watch Discovery but it's a total rip off.
Just get a VPN and watch it on Netflix.
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Ive actually binged ST:D (UGH that name LOL) Over the last couple of days, and i really love it actually although a couple of things bug me, they have Nemesis tech? WHATS THAT ABOUT? LOL and swearing in Star Trek?......... my ears didnt like hearing that haha, dont get me wrong i swear like a trooper, but in Star Trek? the F bomb just sounded wronggggg
I am an Originalist in Star Trek which is possibly tied to my vintage. Spock, Kirk, Bones & Scotty set a standard that others have been trying to reach since. Lt. Uhura on the bridge, Mr. Chekov a Russian Navigator, and Non-intervention were pushing many an envelop in their day.
Lt. Dax in DS9 always intrigued me and I felt was underutilized for what she could have done with scripts.
Another reason for this post is pointing out how inspired by the original Star Trek the first episode of NetFlix's Black Mirror was for season 4. If you have Netflix, The episode USS Callister presented many a great parody of the original with new ideas from intervening 50 years of technology growth.
Love this site! Just when you run outta things to read or comment about a older thread appears and you get to start all over.
I was a teenager when Star Trek was broadcast and I watched it on a very very inexpensive black and white tv. My favorite episode of the original series was called "The Omega Glory" and had the yangs and the cons fighting each other. The end of the episode brought tears to my eyes.
Anyway, I like Discovery. Like anything, the characters have to "Assimulate" into the roll. I also get a huge kick out of the Orville,lol.
Cali
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I am an Originalist in Star Trek which is possibly tied to my vintage. Spock, Kirk, Bones & Scotty set a standard that others have been trying to reach since. Lt. Uhura on the bridge, Mr. Chekov a Russian Navigator, and Non-intervention were pushing many an envelop in their day.
Lt. Dax in DS9 always intrigued me and I felt was underutilized for what she could have done with scripts.
Another reason for this post is pointing out how inspired by the original Star Trek the first episode of NetFlix's Black Mirror was for season 4. If you have Netflix, The episode USS Callister presented many a great parody of the original with new ideas from intervening 50 years of technology growth.
OT but Black Mirror is amazing
Oh yes. I totally love black mirror too.
I guess I have to go watch black mirror.
Only one series?!!!!! That is asking a lot. My 2 favorites are DS9 and voyager. They really spread our knowledge of the star trek universe and introduce many new species, planets, beliefs and other things. they are great. Now I like the new one but, haven't been able to watch much of it to get into it yet!
Live long and flower!
or Bloom
Quote from: Lily.Arwen on October 19, 2016, 04:34:25 PM
Any Trek fans here?
If so, which is your favourite series and why?
I loved TOS when that's all there was; but TNS is far better, imho. Better acting, better scripts, better character development. Favorite episodes include: The Outcast (of course); Parallels; and Who Watches the Watchers, which I regard as the best episode of the series because of the questions it raises, the way it answers them, the purity of the character portrayals and the dynamics of the relationship between Picard and Nuria. The actress who plays Nuria is so good at it I just want to stand up and cheer. The script is just plain outstanding. There are multiple points where just thinking about the dialogue brings tears to my eyes.
I own both series on DVD. DSN had some great characters; but I always found it a little depressing. The animosity between Sisko and Picard, and Sisko's character in general, hung over everything like a dark cloud. Voyager was fun, but probably the weakest entry of the four. I never saw Enterprise.
The last couple of episodes of Star Trek Discovery have been mind blowing
Wow
Totally didn't expect things to go the way they have with Discovery and the Empire.
Quote from: Cali on January 15, 2018, 10:00:19 AM
Totally didn't expect things to go the way they have with Discovery and the Empire.
Yeah, it looks like this will be the main arc for the rest of the season.I have to say I like it a lot more than thefirst half with the whole war arc. The pilot was so badI just ignored it all fall, CBS had a free month deal over new years so I gave it a shot. who knows it could be like TNG, they started out terribly.
Quote from: AnamethatstartswithE on January 15, 2018, 10:15:14 AM
Yeah, it looks like this will be the main arc for the rest of the season.I have to say I like it a lot more than thefirst half with the whole war arc. The pilot was so badI just ignored it all fall, CBS had a free month deal over new years so I gave it a shot. who knows it could be like TNG, they started out terribly.
I remember my wife and I being all excited that there was going to be a new Star Trek series (ST - Next Gen) and when it finally aired were happy but had to wait until the characters developed. Sadly, a lot of shows are on for a few episodes and characters never get the chance to develop.
Any thoughts to the new Star Trek series recently announced with Patrick Stewart back as Jean-Luc Picard?
This was basically everything I was wanting earlier in this thread...and then some, I mean if they want to take it just forward to approximately how far Patrick Stewart has aged since the movies, that's even better than what I was hoping for.
Oh, I am very much looking forward to it. I haven't been interested in checking out Discovery (nor have I even bothered to see Enterprise) since I'm not terribly interested in prequels as a general rule, but I'd love to see the TNG/DS9/VOY era continue into the future.
TOS changed the way people thought of scifi (still havnt watched the whole thing through), but TNG changed the way people thought. Even early on Gene was using aliens to talk about narratives that other show writers weren't willing to touch. Which brings one of my favorite episodes to mind, the androgynous race and their A2F woman, and Rikers mad crush on her. That, and ALL the Barclay episodes ;)
DS9 was a tad slow, not being able to leave their station for the first 3 seasons, but that did give room to great character development and world building like we hadnt seen before in a star trek.
OMG, Voyager!, Janeway is SUCH a strong female role model. Plus, the idea of being cast out to nowhere familiar, struggling to survive, watching resourses. Gives the Star Trek model so much more of a realistic feel. Akin to Frefly, which I suppose is for another thread.
Havent watched the new ones yet. It's been a long road...
Voyager is the best.
Live long and prosper!
Quote from: VeronicaLynn on June 20, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
I would really much rather see a next, next generation that took place after DS9 and Voyager. I guess the writers are too lazy to invent new characters and even more advanced technology.
If you are looking to explore canon content in this era, Star Trek Online is a 8? year old, free to play MMO game(I havent dropped a penny into it) that they are still updating, and still has a fanbase.
I love that Voyager had a female captain, finally, and the actress is amazing, but I hated the writing. The writers for that show were a little lacking in comparison to everything before it. I also think having her side with the Borg in the Species 8472 arc was a betrayal of her character. They could have done so much more with Janeway and her crew.
My fav is DS9.
I'd like to ask everyone a fun question
Which characters from your favorite series would you most likely be friends with?
Mine:
Jadzia Dax
Julian Bashir
Worf
Quark
Quote from: RabbitSpectre on October 04, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
I'd like to ask everyone a fun question
Which characters from your favorite series would you most likely be friends with?
I always want to be Yeoman Janice Rand from the real series. The uniform had the cutest skirts!
The only one I've watched a lot of was TNG, so that one. I really liked what I saw of DS9 but idk if I'll ever finish it. TNG was part of my childhood, but I think it's harder for me to become a trekkie as an adult, when none of my friends care about the show. :P
I think I'd go with Jadzia Dax for the friend-thing too, and maybe Julian Bashir. The DS9 characters were definitely more relatable for me. Between those two, I like Dax more. If I had to pick a character from TNG I guess I'd say Data or Geordi La Forge-- Picard's personality appeals to me more than theirs, but I kinda have issues with relaxing around authority figures so I don't think we'd make good friends.
my fav of all time is def TOS, TNG comes a close second. i liked them all actually i even liked enterprise and discovery. i didnt like voyager in the beginning, after kes left and 7 of 9 come on board. ds9 i liked when we met jadzia dax and her replacement as well.. tucker and tpol on enterprise.
I liked a lot of the TOS movies, some of the TNG and the kelvin timeline ones.
fav character of all time is Spock, supressing ones feelings. i tried that for years and years.
i have watched the movies several times, the one with the han sucked big time imo
Quote from: DustKitten on October 04, 2018, 05:11:32 PM
The only one I've watched a lot of was TNG, so that one. I really liked what I saw of DS9 but idk if I'll ever finish it. TNG was part of my childhood, but I think it's harder for me to become a trekkie as an adult, when none of my friends care about the show. :P
I think I'd go with Jadzia Dax for the friend-thing too, and maybe Julian Bashir. The DS9 characters were definitely more relatable for me. Between those two, I like Dax more. If I had to pick a character from TNG I guess I'd say Data or Geordi La Forge-- Picard's personality appeals to me more than theirs, but I kinda have issues with relaxing around authority figures so I don't think we'd make good friends.
Nice. Yes, I completely agree. One of the reasons I love DS9.
Very cool. :)
I'm not a huge fan of Honest Trailers, but I thought this was was pretty good. XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Zc8Co2H3w
oh that was good and soo funny and strange part mostly accurate....
To all,
"Live long and prosper!"
Chrissy
OMG yes!!!!!!
Quote from: Veronica A on October 05, 2018, 03:39:58 PM
oh that was good and soo funny and strange part mostly accurate....
Yes, lol.
I really loved the show. I felt like my IQ increased every time I watched it, and that I was getting something with ethical progression and questions.
Still have no idea what the writers were on when they had Dr. Crusher bone a space ghost. :P lol I mean, what? lol Some of the those Season 7 episodes get downright crazy. If that's what they wanted, they should have had Q back!!!!! His episodes in all the newer series are my favorite. Though, nothing quite compares to his romp with Picard. XD
What did everyone think of Q? I actually liked him. He wasn't nearly as bad as the crew acted like he was. Just bored, I think. lol He ended up watching over and helping the crew more often than not, and I think I found it pretty awesome when he gave Data the experience of a real laugh.
Quote from: RabbitSpectre on October 05, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
Yes, lol.
I really loved the show. I felt like my IQ increased every time I watched it, and that I was getting something with ethical progression and questions.
Still have no idea what the writers were on when they had Dr. Crusher bone a space ghost. :P lol I mean, what? lol Some of the those Season 7 episodes get downright crazy. If that's what they wanted, they should have had Q back!!!!! His episodes in all the newer series are my favorite. Though, nothing quite compares to his romp with Picard. XD
What did everyone think of Q? I actually liked him. He wasn't nearly as bad as the crew acted like he was. Just bored, I think. lol He ended up watching over and helping the crew more often than not, and I think I found it pretty awesome when he gave Data the experience of a real laugh.
I know that Voyager will make someone smarter. The first 3 or 4 episodes explained some simple quantum physics principles.
Quote from: RabbitSpectre on October 05, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
Yes, lol.
I really loved the show. I felt like my IQ increased every time I watched it, and that I was getting something with ethical progression and questions.
Still have no idea what the writers were on when they had Dr. Crusher bone a space ghost. :P lol I mean, what? lol Some of the those Season 7 episodes get downright crazy. If that's what they wanted, they should have had Q back!!!!! His episodes in all the newer series are my favorite. Though, nothing quite compares to his romp with Picard. XD
What did everyone think of Q? I actually liked him. He wasn't nearly as bad as the crew acted like he was. Just bored, I think. lol He ended up watching over and helping the crew more often than not, and I think I found it pretty awesome when he gave Data the experience of a real laugh.
hell yes, i loved Q as well. i have even read all the books with him in it :) everytime like woohoo Q
Quote from: Veronica A on October 06, 2018, 03:21:59 PM
hell yes, i loved Q as well. i have even read all the books with him in it :) everytime like woohoo Q
OMG, you read the Q Continuum series as well??? Hell, yes, girl!!!! :D
If John Delancie and Patrick Stewart ever got together again just to do improv acting between their characters, I would pay to see that. :) Pretty awesome that they both worked on the books with Cox!
The episode in TNG where he loses his powers was really interesting. lol Remember the other Q that showed up near the end? XD I wanna hang out with an omnipotent baked space hippie.
Quote from: RabbitSpectre on October 06, 2018, 03:55:21 PM
OMG, you read the Q Continuum series as well??? Hell, yes, girl!!!! :D
If John Delancie and Patrick Stewart ever got together again just to do improv acting between their characters, I would pay to see that. :) Pretty awesome that they both worked on the books with Cox!
The episode in TNG where he loses his powers was really interesting. lol Remember the other Q that showed up near the end? XD I wanna hang out with an omnipotent baked space hippie.
out of all the races ever on star trek, the Q tops it all for sure.
I like Star Trek.