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General Discussions => Spirituality => Other => Topic started by: stephaniec on December 09, 2016, 10:50:49 PM

Poll
Question: does God exist
Option 1: yes votes: 12
Option 2: no votes: 8
Option 3: maybe votes: 1
Option 4: have no clue votes: 1
Option 5: other votes: 4
Title: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: stephaniec on December 09, 2016, 10:50:49 PM
sorry, This has probably been asked before I just wanted to see the bell curve.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Janes Groove on December 09, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
How should we answer if we believe Goddess exists?
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Cindy on December 09, 2016, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Jane Emily on December 09, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
How should we answer if we believe Goddess exists?

A Myth or a Mythisses  :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Michelle_P on December 09, 2016, 11:56:47 PM
It depends on what you mean by "God".  Gnarly old white dude in the sky, insanely jealous although his PR says 'infinitely loving'?

Nope.

Some form of intelligence that orchestrated the creation of this universe, initiating this particular reality?

Maybe.  See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

Some form of superior intelligence that may or may not know we even exist?

Likely, but not my idea of a deity.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: LizK on December 10, 2016, 12:01:36 AM
No not the gods as portrayed by current religions...
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Rachel_Christina on December 10, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
Its funny, since I was brought up in such a old fashioned environment it was impossible not to believe in God.
Sadly with all the hate I knew I would get because I was "different", I would resent that fact.
Now since coming to terms with the whole trans thing, I really believe he would have no problem with me.
I even believe he may have helped me, when I was young I would pray every night when I go to bed to be changed into a woman, or have long hair, back then I hardly knew the difference between man or woman.
I still pray now, more so of thanks for my day or my fortunes, or to ask for strength when I know I will need his help.
I do believe he listened, he couldn't just turn me into a women, but he helped the best he could, this year I have lived abroad on my own and my two brothers had visited, one a year younger than me and the other 3 years younger than me, both have thick full beards, they are taller, stronger bigger hands and feet, I was blessed.
I hardly have a beard, my hips are decent wide, I have a waist.
Ther may be biological luck involved, I don't know, but maybe too he tweaked what he could. I see some trans people can often, after years of praying to be a woman or man withought anything, give up believing.
I believe he works in mysterious ways, I am sure I have seen his signs.
Maybe it was just my old fashioned upbringing and alot of luck, I don't think so though :)
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Eevee on December 10, 2016, 01:51:20 AM
The gods defined by organized religions certainly do not exist. I have no reason to believe in any other god otherwise. Sure, maybe some god could exist, but I'm going to go with "no" until some solid evidence is in on that.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Deborah on December 10, 2016, 05:27:41 AM
Yes


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: AnonyMs on December 10, 2016, 05:41:26 AM
It would be interesting to know how this splits up by country. I dont even know any religious people.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Drexy/Drex on December 10, 2016, 08:04:02 AM
I  believe in the " prime mover unmoved

http://www.scandalon.co.uk/philosophy/aristotle_prime_mover.htm

But also that life being brought into being  the only instruction from the creator  was "survive"

and that is what all life forms attempt
the force that brought life into existence  is completely  impartial 
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: FTMax on December 10, 2016, 09:26:43 AM
I voted yes.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Paige on December 10, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Quote from: Eevee on December 10, 2016, 01:51:20 AM
The gods defined by organized religions certainly do not exist. I have no reason to believe in any other god otherwise. Sure, maybe some god could exist, but I'm going to go with "no" until some solid evidence is in on that.

This ^

Paige :)

Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Sephirah on December 10, 2016, 01:07:01 PM
No, I don't.

I believe in people. Which, at times, can be even harder to do. But I have found that many of the traits attributed to a divine figure can be found in the hearts of people here on Earth. Even if they don't know it.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Trystlynn on December 10, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
I believe as much in a God as I do in a Goddess. so yes. However, quite like Sephirah I believe that they both reside within as much as all around us and in everything. Identifying with one more than the other is much of what many of us are all too familiar with.

~ Branwen
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Michelle_P on December 10, 2016, 02:42:01 PM
A couple of the posts here tickled an old memory, something that I had heard in a TV series, of all places.  The writer/producer J. Michael Straczynski came up with these lines for one of his characters in an old sci-fi TV series:

Quote
We are the universe made manifest, trying to figure itself out. And as we have both learned, sometimes the universe requires a change of perspective.
DELENN, Babylon 5, "A Distant Star" (1994)

We believe that the universe itself is conscious in a way that we can never truly understand. It is engaged in a search for meaning. So it breaks itself apart, investing its own consciousness in every form of life. We are the universe trying to understand itself.

DELENN, Babylon 5, "Passing Through Gethsemane" (1995)
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: DawnOday on December 10, 2016, 03:16:29 PM
Higher Power? Absolutely. I witness it every day. My children keep me on the straight and narrow. God. As Evangelicals are presenting him/her make it hard to believe in his/her existence. But I know the problem is religion not the concept of God. When God says. "Thou shalt love me with all thy heart." "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and the righteous and pius don't understand the phrase. There are no commandments greater than these. It's kind of straightforward and does not call for translation. 
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: stephaniec on December 10, 2016, 05:53:12 PM
I kind of see God as the Law that paves the way for life to exist.
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: zamber74 on December 10, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
I don't know if a higher sentient force exists, of which was responsible for the whole of creation.  I hope there is something out there, beyond the scope of what religion has defined for us.  Something that is all loving.  I ultimately lack trust in my self to know if such a thing exists, and I lack trust in others to know if such a thing exists as well. 

Without trust, there is no faith. 
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: Raell on December 10, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
Since scientists have found that there are countless universes,
and there are universes within universes,
and that our own existence mathematically resembles a computer program,
and that nothing exists unless it is imagined (quantum physics experiments of photons passing through slits)
that space and time don't really exist, except in our minds
we might only exist within some higher dimension being's video game and that it hits "reset' with each death, then we reincarnate to play the life game again, etc.

I am going with what the people from other constellations say (according to numerous secret government whistle-blowers, people who allegedly channel these star souls, and people who purport to have talked directly to ETs..

that our souls are eternal and come from "Source," who, once he or she launched creation, who knows how long ago, leaves the souls alone to their own devices. Since the souls are from Source and have the power to create their own universe time lines, these souls are expected to make their own realities.
Themselves.

Even the Biblical Jesus scolded his disciples for waking him up when a storm was sinking their boat. He told the storm to "shut up," then wanted to know why his disciples hadn't taken care of the storm themselves, saying they had "little faith." 
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: V M on December 10, 2016, 07:30:26 PM
I've had rather odd dreams about it but I'm not really sure so I just dismiss it as that, odd dreams

I do find the dreams rather interestingly entertaining but doubt I'd form any sort of religious belief around them

In view of my current health issues and physical condition I just might find out soon enough anyway

If I can figure out a way to do it I'll be sure to come back and let everyone know once I find out
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: stephaniec on December 10, 2016, 08:17:44 PM
first one to the pearly gate spills the beans
Title: Re: Do you believe a God exists , straight up or down
Post by: stephaniec on December 10, 2016, 08:20:41 PM
VM if you beat me tell God that the Susan's community voted him/her an inverse bell curve