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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Megan. on January 03, 2018, 06:34:06 AM

Title: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 03, 2018, 06:34:06 AM
I'll be passing through or staying in these states (PA, NY, CT and MA) next week.

Can I confirm it's legal for me to use female gendered public bathroom facilties in all of them?

I'm pre-op (mtf), but my passport and driving license both have my new (correct) name and gender. I'd not planned to bring my birth certificate with me, but that still has my birth gender.

Thanks. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 03, 2018, 06:45:55 AM
We're good here in Massachusetts.  :)  https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-baker-signs-transgender-anti-discrimination-legislation

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 03, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
Hi Megan -

GLAAD has information on CT

https://www.glad.org/locations/connecticut/

Maybe this map helps too:

https://transgenderlawcenter.org/equalitymap

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 03, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
Cool,  thank you Devlyn and Sarah [emoji4]. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: elkie-t on January 03, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
Generally speaking, it's up to business owner (if you go to bathrooms in any restaurant or gas station), it's a matter of state law only if you are in a public building (including rest area). As far as I know NC is the only state that demands use of public restrooms according to sex assigned at birth (even then it would be tricky for them to enforce it if your birth certificate is changed), but in practice - it's all about presentation and whether or not someone would want to challenge you. When I was driving en femme through Route 66, I stopped at bigger travel plazas mostly and ladies didn't challenge me (but a male restroom attendant in IL rest area tried - but failed because he wasn't a police officer to stop me and I got into the stall before he could physically intercept me, otherwise chances are I could've been denied access or charged with disturbance of peace or something similar).


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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: elkie-t on January 03, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
If your presentation is good enough (not passing 100%, but at least looking good in your preferred gender) - you won't be challenged along major traveling routes.


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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 03, 2018, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: elkie-t on January 03, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
If your presentation is good enough (not passing 100%, but at least looking good in your preferred gender) - you won't be challenged along major traveling routes.


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I always aim to look definitively female over androgynous (just my preference), so even if I don't pass,  this will hopefully be enough! [emoji5]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: tgchar21 on January 03, 2018, 02:20:52 PM
@elkie-t: I believe the NC bill does use the gender on the birth certificate in the law as the defining factor, so if you've changed your BC (unfortunately not in the OP's case) you're good to go IIRC.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 03, 2018, 03:05:53 PM
Is there a single person on the planet that carries their birth certificate with them?
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: elkie-t on January 03, 2018, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 03, 2018, 03:05:53 PM
Is there a single person on the planet that carries their birth certificate with them?
Theoretically, they can do raids (similar to roadblocks) and ask anyone with questionable gender to prove to their satisfaction your gender and issue a ticket (fine) for failure to do it on the spot and ask to send BC by mail to get the ticket dismissed...

I also believe that as soon as they start enforcing their law, there will be a costly ACLU challenge to the state... As of now, I hope NC is in enough trouble not to call for more attention to themselves.

And any local agency could use similar tactics even without any particular law in the books (cops can always find a good reason to give you a ticket - public disturbance for instance - if you keep insisting you're female and demand to be allowed into the right bathroom). Luckily, local police agency mostly have better jobs to do than policing bathrooms.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Rachel on January 03, 2018, 06:28:03 PM
When I went to NC for hair transplants at Carolina Dermatology I put my birth certificate in my purse (I have several certified birth certificates).

Philadelphia, PA there is a law allowing you to use the bathroom of your declared gender. Law and application of the law can be two different things. I believe Pittsburg PA also has a bathroom law. The rest of the state will vary from accepting to hostile.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 03, 2018, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: elkie-t on January 03, 2018, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 03, 2018, 03:05:53 PM
Is there a single person on the planet that carries their birth certificate with them?
Theoretically, they can do raids (similar to roadblocks) and ask anyone with questionable gender to prove to their satisfaction your gender and issue a ticket (fine) for failure to do it on the spot and ask to send BC by mail to get the ticket dismissed...

I also believe that as soon as they start enforcing their law, there will be a costly ACLU challenge to the state... As of now, I hope NC is in enough trouble not to call for more attention to themselves.

And any local agency could use similar tactics even without any particular law in the books (cops can always find a good reason to give you a ticket - public disturbance for instance - if you keep insisting you're female and demand to be allowed into the right bathroom). Luckily, local police agency mostly have better jobs to do than policing bathrooms.

I think it would go like this:

Authority figure: "Birth certificate,  please."

Me: "I don't think I have one, can you show me your birth certificate as an example?

<crickets>
Title: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: jill610 on January 04, 2018, 04:36:40 AM
I ha e not had or experienced issues in PA. Some large cities like philly expect you to use whatever facilities are consistent with your presentation. So if you are presenting as female, don't use the men's room while in Philly.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: KathyLauren on January 04, 2018, 07:16:17 AM
I thought the NC bathroom bill was repealed and replaced with one that prohibited cities from issuing local anti-discrimination ordinances.  Ir did they sneak it back in after it was repealed?
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: elkie-t on January 04, 2018, 07:33:50 AM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 03, 2018, 06:40:13 PM
Theoretically, they can do raids (similar to roadblocks) and ask anyone with questionable gender to prove to their satisfaction your gender and issue a ticket (fine) for failure to do it on the spot and ask to send BC by mail to get the ticket dismissed...

I also believe that as soon as they start enforcing their law, there will be a costly ACLU challenge to the state... As of now, I hope NC is in enough trouble not to call for more attention to themselves.

And any local agency could use similar tactics even without any particular law in the books (cops can always find a good reason to give you a ticket - public disturbance for instance - if you keep insisting you're female and demand to be allowed into the right bathroom). Luckily, local police agency mostly have better jobs to do than policing bathrooms.


I think it would go like this:

Authority figure: "Birth certificate,  please."

Me: "I don't think I have one, can you show me your birth certificate as an example?

<crickets>
Authority figure: would you allow our female officer to conduct a quick physical examination?

You: no way.

Authority figure: sorry, sir. You are not allowed to use the female bathroom.

You: I insist!

Authority figure: I am sorry, we will have to ask you to follow us to our detention facility.

You: I need to pee!

Authority figure (thinking they don't want to soil their bus): please follow our officer to this gender appropriate bathroom.

You: ...

Well, at this moment, you will have to follow the order or it's resisting police which is a violation of your own. Since you are posing an obvious danger to an officer, they might actually handcuff you and conduct a search for weapons. And after you do your business, the authority figure would issue a citation to you for intent to use a wrong bathroom and 'I wish you a safe trip, Sir'.

What I am saying, where's a will to enforce law and intimidate people, authority figures can always find a way to do so.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 04, 2018, 07:39:53 AM
In any event, Megan isn't going to NC, so we should have this discussion elsewhere.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Dee Marshall on January 04, 2018, 08:26:24 AM
I live in New York. No problems here legally but some parts of the state are less liberal than others and you could possibly have problems with select individuals. We don't have a positive law  here detailing transgender rights. If you'll have a cellphone available there's an app called "refuge restrooms" you can try. I've even found safe restrooms in North Carolina with it.

The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: HappyMoni on January 04, 2018, 10:47:59 AM
If you act like you belong in the woman's room (because you do) I severely doubt you will have any problem Megan. That said, I always keep an eye on my surroundings. I don't tend to use truck stops for one thing.
Moni
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 04, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
I don't give it a moments thought in the UK,  I guess I'm just a bit wary as this will be my first trip abroad as Megan.

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 04, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Or your first trip as Megan abroad, or your first trip as Megan, a broad.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 04, 2018, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 04, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Or your first trip as Megan abroad, or your first trip as Megan, a broad.  [emoji23]

Hugs, Devlyn
Both! Woop woop

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 04, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
What Megan doesn't know is I've arranged with FAA to have the flight diverted to Orlando, where I will give a state-wide tour of women's restrooms. I've never had any trouble here, and with her gorgeous presentation she won't either. Shhh. Don't tell her.

I can't afford to Pull a Kendra for anyone else, so they have to come to me.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 04, 2018, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 04, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
What Megan doesn't know is I've arranged with FAA to have the flight diverted to Orlando, where I will give a state-wide tour of women's restrooms. I've never had any trouble here, and with her gorgeous presentation she won't either. Shhh. Don't tell her.

I can't afford to Pull a Kendra for anyone else, so they have to come to me.

Stephanie

pssst, she's using the invasion tunnel to get here! :laugh:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 04, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 04, 2018, 02:49:10 PM
pssst, she's using the invasion tunnel to get here! [emoji23]
Shhhhh, we're massing the troops as I write. I'll be head of the column, most gorgeous attack ever [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 04, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
pssst she doesn't know the tunnel is flooded and frozen.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: HappyMoni on January 04, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
The British are coming, the British are coming!

So, is it oneith by land or twoith by sea?

Moni
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 04, 2018, 03:06:27 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 04, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Shhhhh, we're massing the troops as I write. I'll be head of the column, most gorgeous attack ever [emoji16]

Indeed!  :-*

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Laurie on January 04, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
pssst she doesn't know the tunnel is flooded and frozen.

Yeah, the waterfront is hurting today. It's still snowing here. Time to check the weather geese.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 04, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 04, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Shhhhh, we're massing the troops as I write. I'll be head of the column, most gorgeous attack ever [emoji16]

It will be a fabulous invasion.Everyone will be hugged to death.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: jessica95 on January 05, 2018, 02:56:29 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 03, 2018, 06:34:06 AM
I'll be passing through or staying in these states (PA, NY, CT and MA) next week.

Can I confirm it's legal for me to use female gendered public bathroom facilties in all of them?

I'm pre-op (mtf), but my passport and driving license both have my new (correct) name and gender. I'd not planned to bring my birth certificate with me, but that still has my birth gender.

Thanks. X

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In the country i live, i have sometime seen a own bathroom for transgendered people (third bathroom).  So that could work. But if you dress female and somewhat look female it should be okay to go to womens public bathrooms?
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 05, 2018, 04:06:58 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 04, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
It will be a fabulous invasion.Everyone will be hugged to death.


- Stephanie
Coz I'll need to steal their warmth! [emoji23]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Dee Marshall on January 05, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 05, 2018, 04:06:58 AM
Coz I'll need to steal their warmth! [emoji23]

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I thought for a second that that said "sent from MI 5 using Tapatalk". [emoji16]

The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 05:29:05 AM
Ok you got me,  "it's Bond, Jane(s) Bond!" [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Virginia 71 on January 06, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 04, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
It will be a fabulous invasion.Everyone will be hugged to death.


- Stephanie

If any war absolutely MUST be fought then this is probably the best way to go about it....

:)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Virginia 71 on January 06, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
If any war absolutely MUST be fought then this is probably the best way to go about it....

:)
Love grenades and tickle bombs [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 06, 2018, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 05:29:05 AM
Ok you got me,  "it's Bond, Jane(s) Bond!" [emoji16]

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What a picture! Jane Bond... now we have to decide who the Bond Girl is...
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: sarah1972 on January 06, 2018, 11:03:29 AM
What a picture! Jane Bond... now we have to decide who the Bond Girl is...

Ooo! Me me me!

Or would we have to flip that, too? In that case, never mind.

Or maybe Megan's Angels?

Stephanie
Title: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 06, 2018, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:09:31 AM
Ooo! Me me me!

Or would we have to flip that, too? In that case, never mind.

Or maybe Megan's Angels?

Stephanie
With Devlyn being the third angle?
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: sarah1972 on January 06, 2018, 11:11:30 AM
With Devlyn being the third angle?

We should always include all angles! I'll tri almost anything once. Or sometimes three times.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 06, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
This thread's turning into a wargy.  :laugh:

Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: sarah1972 on January 06, 2018, 11:11:30 AM
With Devlyn being the third angle?

We should always include all angles! I'll tri almost anything once. Or sometimes three times.


- Stephanie

Did I ever tell you about the three stages of a man's sex life?

Young man: Tri-weekly.
Middle aged man: Try weekly
Old man: Try weakly. .
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 06, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
This thread's turning into a wargy.  :laugh:

We should always include all angles! I'll tri almost anything once. Or sometimes three times.


- Stephanie


Did I ever tell you about the three stages of a man's sex life?

Young man: Tri-weekly.
Middle aged man: Try weekly
Old man: Try weakly. .

Ba-dump-bump-tsssss.

Made it through the first two. Don't plan to experience the last one.

Wargy?


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
With all the strange turns this thread has taken, Megan's going to end up in Albuquerque.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 11:39:18 AM
I'm turnin' round and going home,  you Americans are a scary bunch! [emoji23]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 11:39:18 AM
I'm turnin' round and going home,  you Americans are a scary bunch! [emoji23]

Invasion averted! Good job, girls!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 06, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
I'm not falling for that old ruse!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Yakayla on January 06, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
This shouldn't even be an issue. In Belgium, I usually just take the bathroom that's closest. As long as you act like you belong there, no one cares.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 12:32:58 PM
The invasion is underway! Flight tracker confirms we have a Brit in the air over North America.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 08, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
Have a safe flight Megan!!
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
The Megan has landed!  :)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 08, 2018, 03:52:51 PM
Where is the "Like" Button...

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 08, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
The Megan has landed!  :)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
The young'uns won't understand that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 08, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
Touchdown! No problems so far with airport security either end. Already had waitress staff misgendering me!

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 08, 2018, 07:20:32 PM
Welcome back to the US! I've set Boston to "Defrost" I hope it's melted by the time you get here.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 08, 2018, 07:28:22 PM
HeY! where's the step speech? Come on Megan you can do it... One small....

  Glad you made it Megan. Tell that waitress she got it all wrong. Tip her accordingly.  No No no Megan stand her back upright! Sheeeeesh Brits! ::)

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 09, 2018, 07:33:46 PM
First day in the office today. I'll admit to being a bit apprehensive about how my US colleagues would react, but no problem whatsoever.
I think as a US outsider I fell for some of the bad press, but aside a few glances, I've not had any issues [emoji5].
It's long days atm,  so I don't have much time to post here. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 09, 2018, 07:48:02 PM
 Glad you had an uneventful day at the office. Go to bed early girl and get rid of that Jet lag.
Tomorrow is another day and another dollar? pound? shilling?

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 11, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 09, 2018, 07:48:02 PM
Glad you had an uneventful day at the office. Go to bed early girl and get rid of that Jet lag.
Tomorrow is another day and another dollar? pound? shilling?

Hugs,
   Laurie
Sadly,  my endentured servitude is unpaid, but I'm all wrapped up now.
Tomorrow I go to dance with the Devyl in the pale moonlight!

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 11, 2018, 03:03:34 PM
I've warmed the state up, and we're preparing to wash it tomorrow (rain) in expectation of your visit, m'lady.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 11, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
  It's Thursday already?!?  Oh heck I have facial torture in less than 2 hours I better get started.

Oh yeah have a good trip to the Devyln's, Megan. Updates and pictures. We haven't seen her dungeon yet...

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 11, 2018, 03:19:02 PM
Well if you don't hear back from me, that's probably where I'll be [emoji23]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 11, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
 Still want pictures
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: RachelT1963 on January 11, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
I am glad your trip is going well Megan. It sounds like the change in weather won't make your drive to Boston as bad as we thought. You will have to tell me all about it when you get back to the UK. xx
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 12, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
She made it!

(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/0/13844-120118200717.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 12, 2018, 08:26:41 PM
YAY !!  She appears to be in good condition too! Now you treat that foreigner nicely Devyln.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 12, 2018, 08:58:34 PM
Looking good Ladies!!
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 06:45:10 AM
Well I gnawed through the ropes and tunnelled out of the Devlyn dungeon... So long beautiful Boston, see you for lunch Sarah!

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 15, 2018, 07:31:19 AM
<spewing coffee>  Escape? Sound the alarm! Release the hounds!  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 15, 2018, 10:49:17 AM
Dang it Devyln!  You told me you would hold her until I visited you again.  :o ::) :o  Maybe Sarah can hang onto her.
  Have a safe trip to see Sarah and enjoy yourself Megan.

Hugs,
   Laurie.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 12:12:22 PM
Even the Devlyn can't tie this girl down! [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 15, 2018, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 12:12:22 PM
Even the Devlyn can't tie this girl down! [emoji16]

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That's a bold boast. I wouldn't be too sure about that since I think I could. Trussed me. ;) ;) you were probably only lucky to have gotten away.
  Are you enjoying your visits in a civilized country?

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: DawnOday on January 15, 2018, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 09, 2018, 07:33:46 PM
First day in the office today. I'll admit to being a bit apprehensive about how my US colleagues would react, but no problem whatsoever.
I think as a US outsider I fell for some of the bad press, but aside a few glances, I've not had any issues [emoji5].
It's long days atm,  so I don't have much time to post here. X

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As long as you have a strong English accent you can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 15, 2018, 03:54:17 PM
Confirmed! Megan. escaped :-)


Quote from: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 12:12:22 PM
Even the Devlyn can't tie this girl down! [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Rachel on January 15, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
Devlyn, how many lanterns by air?

Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry-arch
Of the North-Church-tower, as a signal-light,--
One if by land, and two if by sea;
And I on the opposite shore will be,
Ready to ride and spread the alarm
Through every Middlesex village and farm,
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 15, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: sarah1972 on January 15, 2018, 03:54:17 PM
Confirmed! Megan. escaped :-)

From you too Sarah?  How can that be? Perhaps I should have given a Knot Tying 101 class before she arrived.
::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 15, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
Quote from: Rachel on January 15, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
Devlyn, how many lanterns by air?

Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry-arch
Of the North-Church-tower, as a signal-light,--
One if by land, and two if by sea;
And I on the opposite shore will be,
Ready to ride and spread the alarm
Through every Middlesex village and farm,

Oh, we already  covered that ground. (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,231378.msg2057544.html#msg2057544)  :laugh:

I'm not happy with this escape. When Megan is returned to the dungeon, and she will be, whichever one of you delivers her will be rewarded. Or thrown in the dungeon as well, I haven't decided yet.  >:-)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 15, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
Don't make me pull out my rifle and don my hunting hat... It wabbit season. No it's duck season.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 08:43:39 PM


Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 15, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
... When Megan is returned to the dungeon, and she will be, whichever one of you delivers her will be rewarded. Or thrown in the dungeon as well...

Aren't these the same? [emoji23]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 15, 2018, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 15, 2018, 01:41:46 PMTrussed me. ;) ;)

Yes! I do believe that wins pun of the year in the Homophone category!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
Bumped into the lovely Sarah for a tasty lunch today. It was great to catch up and finally meet in person [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180116/1e8737ac2149d6352b45fdc784f38aed.jpg)

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 15, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Grab her!
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 15, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Grab her!
We'll have no 'grabbing' here tyvm!

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 15, 2018, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 08:52:59 PM
We'll have no 'grabbing' here tyvm!

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Ok, since we're doing homophone puns:

Caesar!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 15, 2018, 08:56:05 PM
Ok, since we're doing homophone puns:

Caesar!


- Stephanie
Can I have the dressing on the side please?

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 15, 2018, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 15, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Can I have the dressing on the side please?

:eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:25:48 PM
After being full-time for nearly 9 months I think I had my first unequivocal pass today.

I was chatting with a gentleman at the museum,  he was enquiring about entry for his 22 grandchildren! He simply commented that he thought I'd do a good job of looking after them, implicitly assuming I was a woman, and therefore better suited to the task; happy girl [emoji16].

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Jayne01 on January 16, 2018, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 06, 2018, 05:29:05 AM
Ok you got me,  "it's Bond, Jane(s) Bond!" [emoji16]

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Hey! I'm Jayne!!!

I'm late to the party, I saw the title of this thread and didn't think I had anything to contribute. Little did I know you were using it as cover to sneak into the US on a secret mission.

I was wondering why I hadn't heard from you. I was about to send you a message to see how you are and I find all this posting activity going on in this thread.

I'm glad you are having a good trip. Don't let those Americans kidnap you. They act all nice and friendly but what they really want is their very own Brit with one of those funny accents. You'd be like a pet. Keep tour eyes open and watch your back!! [emoji15]

Seriously, pass on a hug from me when you meet these lovely people.

Have fun!

Jayne
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Hey Jayne,  yes I've been hiding in the toilet [emoji23].

I almost stole Devlyn and her cute Bostonian accent to show my British friends [emoji16]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 16, 2018, 05:49:56 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Hey Jayne,  yes I've been hiding in the toilet [emoji23].

I almost stole Devlyn and her cute Bostonian accent to show my British friends [emoji16]

Going to get me through TSA like the Hendo's?   :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 16, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Hey Jayne,  yes I've been hiding in the toilet [emoji23].

I almost stole Devlyn and her cute Bostonian accent to show my British friends [emoji16]

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I'm thinking of kidnapping the three of you and selling tickets to listen to the foreigners
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 16, 2018, 05:49:56 PM
Going to get me through TSA like the Hendo's?   [emoji23]

Hugs, Devlyn
The doctor's been there, the Hendos, now Devlyn... Anyone else? It appears there's plenty of room! [emoji23]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 16, 2018, 05:56:55 PM
TMI TMI TMI
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 16, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
I'm thinking of kidnapping the three of you and selling tickets to listen to the foreigners
Do I get a cut of the box office?

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Rachel on January 16, 2018, 06:54:03 PM
Megan, where in PA are you going??

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: Rachel on January 16, 2018, 06:54:03 PM
Megan, where in PA are you going??
I flew to Philadelphia last Monday,  had three days in the office (for work), drove to Boston on Friday for the w/e, drove back to Philadelphia on Monday,  and fly home (UK) tomorrow evening...

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Rachel on January 16, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I should have inquired sooner 😞
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: sarah1972 on January 16, 2018, 07:46:05 PM
Do we want to let Megan. Go?  ;D

Have a safe flight home, so lovely we had a chance to meet up!

Quote from: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: Rachel on January 16, 2018, 06:54:03 PM
Megan, where in PA are you going??
I flew to Philadelphia last Monday,  had three days in the office (for work), drove to Boston on Friday for the w/e, drove back to Philadelphia on Monday,  and fly home (UK) tomorrow evening...

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Jayne01 on January 16, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 16, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
Hey Jayne,  yes I've been hiding in the toilet [emoji23].

I almost stole Devlyn and her cute Bostonian accent to show my British friends [emoji16]

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Strange place to be hiding, in the toilet, but hey whatever works.

If I don't get back to you, have a safe trip back home.

Jayne
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: Rachel on January 16, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I should have inquired sooner [emoji20]
[emoji853] I posted a few months back about my plans. Work might bring me back to Philadelphia again in the future (we have a big site at Upper Providence),  but no immediate plans.

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 08:53:36 AM
Taking liberties... [emoji23](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180117/290b3143a6dc738950c98b395bf7024f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: RachelT1963 on January 17, 2018, 09:14:04 AM
Nice pic Megan.
Safe trip home  :)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 17, 2018, 09:17:59 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 08:53:36 AM
Taking liberties... [emoji23](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180117/290b3143a6dc738950c98b395bf7024f.jpg)

Shouldn't you be wearing a Redcoat?  >:-)

<running away>
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 17, 2018, 09:17:59 AM
Shouldn't you be wearing a Redcoat?  >:-)

<running away>
But darling, they're not on trend this season,  mwah!

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Laurie on January 17, 2018, 02:26:35 PM
Hi Megan,

  I am glad you came and were able to visit a few of the girls out east. I hope you enjoyed it thought you could have picked a better time of the year to visit.
  Have a safe trip home girl. mwaaah

Luvs ya,
  Laurie

P.S. Someone check he baggage, nooks and crannies for Devyln. She's gone missing....
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 17, 2018, 02:26:35 PM
Hi Megan,

  I am glad you came and were able to visit a few of the girls out east. I hope you enjoyed it thought you could have picked a better time of the year to visit.
  Have a safe trip home girl. mwaaah

Luvs ya,
  Laurie

P.S. Someone check he baggage, nooks and crannies for Devyln. She's gone missing....
The warmth I've received from both the Susan's girls,  and also the great US hospitality has more than offset the slightly bleak weather [emoji4].

I was a little anxious about my US visit, but they were misplaced fears. Aside a couple of casual misgenderings, it's been a great trip. I only wish it could have been longer,  and that I could have made it out West too. X


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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 17, 2018, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 03:44:38 PM
The warmth I've received from both the Susan's girls,  and also the great US hospitality has more than offset the slightly bleak weather [emoji4].

I was a little anxious about my US visit, but they were misplaced fears. Aside a couple of casual misgenderings, it's been a great trip. I only wish it could have been longer,  and that I could have made it out West too. X

And South, of course. You forgot to say South.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 17, 2018, 03:58:51 PM
And South, of course. You forgot to say South.

Stephanie
Nope,  no one there worth seeing [emoji6]


I kid ofc. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Jayne01 on January 17, 2018, 04:59:58 PM
When are you coming to the other south......way, way south? You know, the place you guys colonised a few years back! [emoji16]
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 17, 2018, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 17, 2018, 04:05:05 PM
Nope,  no one there worth seeing

Well hmmph. If you do ever come here, I shall host a hostile tea for you.

Stephanie

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/us3wxg2xp146urq/megan.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: rmaddy on January 17, 2018, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 04, 2018, 07:16:17 AM
I thought the NC bathroom bill was repealed and replaced with one that prohibited cities from issuing local anti-discrimination ordinances.  Ir did they sneak it back in after it was repealed?

Not yet.  The compromise repealed the original bathroom ban, but left the power to determine bathroom policy exclusively in the hands of the (heavily GOP legislature) for at least two years.  After the butt whupping they received from the initial boycott, you'd think they wouldn't try it again, but zealots will be zealots.  Be glad you live in an enlightened nation.  Our light has gone out.
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 17, 2018, 05:26:22 PM
Well...I've just received word that Megan is boarding a plane out of
the country ... from the escapee herself!  :laugh:

:police:  We need to mobilize the English Susan's members and see if she
can be detained on arrival. An anonymous tip ought to get the job done.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Jayne01 on January 17, 2018, 05:27:59 PM
Better yet, we need to get that plane diverted down under!
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 18, 2018, 12:49:17 AM
I made it back to good ol' Blighty! Despite the best efforts of you pesky lot!

Steph,  I said reds weren't in, omg, they'll never let me on the catwalk in Milan now!

Who'd have thought a thread about toilet access would degenerate into this chaos, but with you lot, it was near guaranteed.

Love you all. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 18, 2018, 12:53:14 AM
Quote from: Megan. on January 18, 2018, 12:49:17 AM
Steph,  I said reds weren't in, omg, they'll never let me on the catwalk in Milan now!

One if by land,
Two if by sea,
Three if by airliner,
No visit to me.

:'(

Stephanie
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 18, 2018, 01:14:51 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 18, 2018, 12:53:14 AM
One if by land,
Two if by sea,
Three if by airliner,
No visit to me.

:'(

Stephanie
There's always a next time.. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 27, 2018, 03:05:00 AM
I'm not sure if I posted this anywhere else so I'll mention it here.
I was a little anxious about the TSA scans at the airport for my trip.
Flying out from London I was not randomly selected so I dodged the bullet, on the way home I was selected, the result...

Female!

Haha not bad for pre-op, I think their system needs a bit more work, though granted I'm pretty small down there.

At all times, all the security staff were very polite and courteous. I even had a brief chat with the passport security person at Philadelphia who was curious about the 2-year limited stamp on my passport that they'd never seen. I explained it was for people in transition, and they just thanked me for the explanation and wished me a good trip [emoji5].

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Dee Marshall on January 27, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
They hadn't seen a two year limited passport? Amazing! We do that in the U.S., too, not that I know what it looks like. I haven't changed mine over yet.

The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 27, 2018, 07:52:02 AM
Quote from: Dee Marshall on January 27, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
They hadn't seen a two year limited passport? Amazing! We do that in the U.S., too, not that I know what it looks like. I haven't changed mine over yet.

The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.
This was a US passport (I have two [emoji6]), my UK passport is a 'standard' issue. X

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 02:13:13 PM
You'd be OK if you detoured through Ontario.  More and more places have either individual unisex washrooms or male, female and family washrooms.  There are also a lot of washrooms for handicapped people that are also single occupant.

Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 04, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Or your first trip as Megan abroad, or your first trip as Megan, a broad.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn

In one of the Toronto newspapers, there was a column, written by a woman, "View from a broad".   ;)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 06, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
With all the strange turns this thread has taken, Megan's going to end up in Albuquerque.

And where will her luggage go?   :)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Megan. on January 27, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
And where will her luggage go?   :)
Just my bindle on my shoulder. [emoji4]

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Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: Devlyn on January 27, 2018, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Megan. on January 27, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
Just my bindle on my shoulder. [emoji4]


Darn it, where's my English to English translator when I need them?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 27, 2018, 04:00:30 PM
Darn it, where's my English to English translator when I need them?  :laugh:

I just wish people over in England would learn how to speak English!   ;)

Sometimes I watch a British TV show and wonder what language they're speaking.   :)
Title: Re: Bathroom law in PA, NY, CT and MA
Post by: steph2.0 on January 27, 2018, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: AnneK on January 27, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
I just wish people over in England would learn how to speak English!   ;)

Sometimes I watch a British TV show and wonder what language they're speaking.   :)

Two countries separated by a common language.

Back in the boxcar-hopping hobo days in the US, they used to carry bindles. In fact, they were called bindlestiffs. So it's not necessarily a British term. So endeth the language lesson of the day.


- Stephanie