Not sure where else to post this but, reincarnation, is it real or not? I ask a simple yet VERY hard question to answer since obviously, this requires proof. Now WHY am I asking such a simple but hard to answer question? Good question indeed. :) Truth is, I myself have a few memories which just flat out ISN'T possible for me to have unless a few things were the case and one of those is that of reincarnation. Sure these "memories" could have been a dream, maybe I made them up? Or perhaps somehow I got them from someone else. (They aren't my memories but somehow I'm seeing their memories and this is different from reincarnation since I'm me and they're them) I'll tell you the memories I have.
1. I have some memories here and there of a place I believe to be Japan yet I've never been to Japan and other than "possibly" a "few" shows I watched which had scenes of Japan, I can't explain why I have these memories. Yet I heard that most Americans see the man on the moon while most Japanese see the Bunny on the moon, I see the Bunny and only once saw the man on the moon. I happen to love Japan too. Coincidence? I can't say for sure so I don't know.
2. I remember talking to someone who I believe to be God because I asked that being to make me a boy. (Or let me be born a boy) I was clearly a female at that point and why in the UNIVERSE I'd ask such a thing!? I honestly have no idea but boy if that really did happen, I wish I hadn't been so stupid! >_< (Obviously I want to be a female and do away with this male body)
3. Later on I remember taking a shower, again as a woman. I believe this was on Earth (Though can't be 100% sure) and the shower looked kind of modern I guess. (Though the lights were dimmed pretty good)
4. I honestly don't know if this is just me thinking this is how it'd feel if a girl felt that way in terms of doing certain things such as kissing and so on but I have had a few times where I felt that way. Really this is a different type since it's not a memory in the head but my body actually felt those same feelings but again, not sure if this is just me thinking that's how it'd feel since I know how it works/looks and such and therefore somehow tricking my body into feeling those things. (Though there's a chance I might be intersex so maybe that explains it?)
5. I think that's it, other than I might have some memories of London but again nor sure there and I'm thinking it couldn't have been more than 50-100 years ago for that shower and these "possible" memories of London which have become quite blurry to the point I don't remember them but know I once remembered them.
So all this, and yet, that's not enough proof for me nor can I say for sure any of that is real. What say you all? I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter and of course, if you can offer any "proof" such as someone clearly remembered certain events from who they once were and later met up with the older sibling and told them those memories and as a result the older sibling could say that's what happened and might have even photo graphed (Taken a picture) that event and to better back up those two people, they took a lie detector test and so on which proved they weren't lying. So proof like that or proof aside from just saying I remember these things.
Now I'd like to say something here. I'm NOT crazy nor do I claim to be someone who was reincarnated, all I'm saying is I have these memories which I shouldn't have and hope to get to the bottom of them.
I'm always a bit skeptical about reincarnation, not that I don't believe it but the vast amount of evidence for it are experiences like yours. While these may be legitimate memories of your own or someone else it's important to recognize that the mind and the imagination are vastless and amorphous. You know how you have a dream and you're in your house, only it looks nothing like it the rooms are different, etc. But you know it's your house! The mind is a strange creature, I've had some extremely strange experiences during my spiritual practices. I see these as massive exercises of the imagination, and just because something is imagined does not mean it is fake, imagined experiences can still evoke emotional and psychological changes in the person.
I say for the moment let them lie, you could explore these memories with meditation or some form of hypnosis though in these states the mind is highly suggestible and you may not end up with any "facts". Experiences like these are good moments for questioning, the universe is a strange and wonderful place and past lives, spirit possession, alien abductions, and such open our eyes to just how strange and wonderful it could be.
Trust me, I haven't underestimated the brain and such. I know it all too well but while I know this, I don't "think" they're fake. Even so, I still can't say for sure. Also I'm not one who likes Hypnosis because it can be suggestive and not to mention it could do you a TON of harm if you're not careful.
Yeah, I said I don't "think" or don't "believe" they're fake, that doesn't mean I don't consider all the possibilities for what they could be.
I have had past life regression done on two occasions.Both were very believable and coincided with what I have experienced in this life.
That said, it doesn't matter wither we believe in it or not, that doesn't make it so or not so.
Reincarnation is just another dynamic of human spirituality in which faith plays a part. Whether it is an actuality or not is no more or less important than anything else in differeing religions. A lot of religions have believed in reincarnation and even early Christianity supposedly believed in it until the 6th century. Little hints are still in the Bible. The sinner dying a thousand deaths and the blind man that Jesus and the desciples met on the road are two of them.
If you are interested in reincarnation Shana-chan, the best book that I can point you to is called "Journey of Souls". I've read a lot about reincarnation and this one, in my opinion, is the most informative well rounded book that I have read on the subject. This is the first one that I suggest to anyone that is curious about reincarnation because it takes six different people out of so many from the newest Soul to the older Soul and compares how their their physical lives are in relation to the advancement of their Soul. It tackles the situation of suicide, being born like we are and so many other things. I also suggest it because it is on a psychological level instead of a religious level and yes God is mentioned in it but not on any worldly regious view. Even in the state between lives we have no idea what or who God is, just that It is there and is Pure Unconditional Love.
"I remember talking to someone who I believe to be God because I asked that being to make me a boy. (Or let me be born a boy) I was clearly a female at that point and why in the UNIVERSE I'd ask such a thing!? I honestly have no idea but boy if that really did happen, I wish I hadn't been so stupid! >_< (Obviously I want to be a female and do away with this male body)"
This part you wrote is extremely interesting and is actually addressed in pretty much every book or paper I have looked into on the subject when we are between physical incarnations. Not necissarily the "God" part but choosing to be born a certain way with certain limitations is all a learning process. Being born physically male and feeling Spiritually female is one heck of a limitation and painful circumstance to me. So, stupid you were?, probably not. ;) Just another limitaton or uncomfortable or painful circumstance you have to deal with on a physical level in order to perfect the Soul on a Spiritual level.
Yes, the subconscious can play tricks in the fill in the blank game. With past life regressions though, these memories supposedly come from higher than the plain old subconscious. I have heard that the superconscious (the next level above the subconscious theoretically) is where the past life memories reside and then glimpses of them filter into the subconscious and why we get glimpses or have dreams but not the full force memories.
There are differences between memories and fantasies and/or false memories. Usually in memories everything coincides and you can recall specifics such as times, currencies, clothing, fashion and so on. With fantasies or false memories these will be mixed up and jumbled around for example, you may be "remembering" being in Japan but using a foriegn currency to purchase something. Or remembering being in WW2 in Europe and wearing Nike tennis shoes. In other words if the memories may truly be real, everything will be timeline or geographically specific.
Anyway, there is a ton of stuff pertaining to reincarnation on the internet. Some are actual studies and so on and others are just side show type stuff.
I have heard everything from genetic memories to false memories to nothing more than fantasies pertaining to reincarnation. Is it an actual dynamic? Who knows but one day we will find out. If Einstein was right and the past, present and future are happening simultaneously then we are also living these lives simultaneously with our present self in possibly the multiverse theory right alonside ourselves now but at different vibrational levels. Is reincarnation just a delusion and wishful thinking that we exist on after our bodies have reverted back to the planet? No more or less than any other Spiritual belief that is prevailent throughout any religion in which you have to use Faith to believe it.
Just because it cannot be scientifically proven doesn't mean it cannot or does not happen. Kinda like a saying I made for myself when I was little to justify dragons could be real lol "perhaps there's a reason you cannot prove that something does not exist."
I for one do believe in reincarnation and kinda have "feels" for certain things or really vivid dreams of another place and time but nothing I'd put any solid truth to.
I used to think that maybe I was a woman born in the 1920s.
Yes. This topic was discussed before.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,127465.msg1005402.html#msg1005402
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59106.msg376134.html#msg376134
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Quote from: Shana-chan on August 20, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
Not sure where else to post this but, reincarnation, is it real or not? I ask a simple yet VERY hard question to answer since obviously, this requires proof.
Why does it require proof? This is something that cannot be proven without dying. Religious/spiritual beliefs are something that can't be proven, it's all about faith.
I do believe in reincarnation for multiple reasons, it's just what makes sense to me, I feel a connection to that thought. It makes more sense to me that either my soul/energy just disappearing when I die, or sitting there in the ground with me until the Day of Judgment. It's part of the reason why I decided to follow Sikhi. Having life cycles where you're continuously growing and learning from your mistakes is something that I feel works better for me on a spiritual level, and seems more compassionate than "here's your one shot at life, you better not screw it up".
I also have some "memories" of a "past life". Of course, I don't know if it's a real past life, or if it's related to being trans. I remember being a male, driving a car, smoking a cigarette, and wearing jeans, a t-shirt, and a jean jacket. I think it's the '70s or '80s (I was born in the later '80s). So, memory of a past life or just some form of my brain trying to make sense of being a male in a female body, a kind of fantasy? There's many times when I subconsciously start grabbing for a cigarette or think "I need a cig right now" even though I've never been a smoker (although I have tried a cigarette before and loved the taste), so more leftovers from a past life or was the cigarette companies really effective in getting their products into my head? I don't know the answer, and I am happy not knowing the answer. I think life is a joyous mystery and it wouldn't be so fun if we had the answers to everything. :)
Kia Ora,
What is it that's re-incarnated ? If it's a soul, does this mean a soul has a memory ? Then one must ask the big question....What is memory ? In scientific terms memories are neuropathways forged in an organic brain (that succumbs to decay) This would mean parts of the old decayed brains matter (That once stored the memories) have been 'recycled'...Scientists are also aware that recycling is a natural part of Mother Nature's plan...
Also on a more 'spiritual' level ( spirit level to 'level' things off, so to speak ;) ;D ) memory is stored through out the physical body in the form of sensations that arise and are collected from the continuous stream of sense data bombarding the physical body...
The more one delves into it the more interesting/fascinating it becomes...And I'm all for recycling in whatever form it takes...
Metta Zenda :)
Kia Ora, I love your thoughts on reincarnation i never though of it as recycling but that describes what reincarnation is. :'( :icon_cool:
Kia Ora Franie,
To the lay person the Buddhist concept of rebirth and the Hindu concept of re-incarnation look very similar , however there is a big difference...(I've just "re-incarnated" this from a dead post ;) ;D )
At first glance rebirth appears to imply there's a 'soul' or another form of eternal/permanent 'self',(some thing that passes/goes from one life to the next 'unchanged') but this is not the case...If one transfers the flame from a lighted candle to an unlit candle, the new flame is contingent on the old flame for its existence but they are not the same flame. There is continuity between the two but they are distinct. Re-incarnation would mean that the old flame is exactly the same as the new flame. Rebirth recognises there is a contiguous relationship of one life to the other but each is otherwise distinct.
Metta Zenda :)
Quote from: LearnedHand on August 23, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Why does it require proof? This is something that cannot be proven without dying. Religious/spiritual beliefs are something that can't be proven, it's all about faith.
I doubt many people could prove if it's real or not, if at anyone. I was hoping someone had some sort of proof. That way I can better know if these memories I have might be real or not. Without proof it's something you have to believe in. I don't doubt reincarnation and or rebirth is possible but it's not like I'm going to say for sure it exists. So proof as well as hearing what everyone believes on this subject is why I created this thread. I even posted my own memories in hopes that others who had memories like me might post. Plus I wanted to have a stronger reason for creating this thread. (I don't know how to say what I just said there better than that)
Like me you have memories and feelings and such that I have but also like me you know it could very well be because of something else such as the cigarette companies really effective in getting their products into your head might be the reason why. Even I cannot say what's the case there.
I'd caution against looking for "proof" to your beliefs by asking for stories from other people on the internet, no matter how trustworthy the people on this site may seem to be.
Quote from: Shana-chan on August 24, 2013, 10:21:26 PM
I doubt many people could prove if it's real or not, if at anyone. I was hoping someone had some sort of proof. That way I can better know if these memories I have might be real or not. Without proof it's something you have to believe in. I don't doubt reincarnation and or rebirth is possible but it's not like I'm going to say for sure it exists.
Are these memories concerning to you? If you're really worried about them, talking with someone knowledgeable in psychiatry or spirituality might be helpful to figuring out if these are something created by your brain or not. But, you shouldn't worry. Just take your time reading about different spiritual paths to figure out if reincarnation/rebirth is something you believe in. Finding a spiritual path comes from within, so you're only going to find what you need by doing a lot of reading, internal dialogue, and visiting various congregations.
I have mainly concluded that any "memories" I have aren't from a real past life, it's just something my brain cooked up, perhaps during a dream and that dream just stuck somewhere. I don't think memories of specific events travel from life to life, just the core being of the soul/energy which makes up a persons character.
@Alice: That's why I said proof. I wasn't just referring to people sharing their experience as proof. Documented proof is more reliable proof but even then you got to be careful.
@Hand: No it doesn't bother me other than that memory of me asking someone who I believe to be God to let me be born a male. Obviously that one does bother me a bit because I don't know if these memories are true and therefore I find myself not knowing for sure whether to say why would God make me this way or to say he made me this way because I asked him. See a bit conflicting there.
Maybe you did ask God to make you born male. Perhaps you were looking to experience life being trans in order to learn something you didn't previously. :)
Quote from: LearnedHand on August 25, 2013, 02:52:18 PM
Maybe you did ask God to make you born male. Perhaps you were looking to experience life being trans in order to learn something you didn't previously. :)
I'm wondering the same thing myself. Though if that were the case I was just curious what living a life as a male would be like and had no clue I'd despise it this much. I have a habbit of doing stuff like that lol so that wouldn't be out of the ordinary for me.
I have had memories and feelings/experiences over my lifetime that I once flew a Lancaster Bomber in WW2. (I know, it sounds nuts). I am an incredibly spiritual person and have had a life long interest in all things paranormal. I used to play the organ in the spiritualist church (although I'm not religious) and gained an insight into the work of mediums for those 3 years that I was there. Also I have out of body experiences. I tend to believe (this is just my belief and nope, there's no proof) that I have to experience life as a female even though I feel very male! Reincarnation is a fascinating subject. I don't know if you're interested in reading on the subject but I have read quite a few books on the subject, more recently I have read books by Dr Brian Weiss which I found really interesting. Here is a link to his website http://www.brianweiss.com/
i asked the same Q before i looked into many website including the youtube looking for proof i found few
anyway i think its very acceptable idea than heaven and hell i think there is a god however i dont believe in any Religion but i Adopt reincarnation
as idea for what is in after death
maybe its because some part of me hope to reborn as female in next lives
i dont know really but human life is so valuable i dont wanna be tree or something
i wish i had some memory of past life but i dont
Quote from: rose on May 01, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
i asked the same Q before i looked into many website including the youtube looking for proof i found few
anyway i think its very acceptable idea than heaven and hell i think there is a god however i dont believe in any Religion but i Adopt reincarnation
as idea for what is in after death
maybe its because some part of me hope to reborn as female in next lives
i dont know really but human life is so valuable i dont wanna be tree or something
i wish i had some memory of past life but i dont
I just really don't think that is the way it works but I did have to laugh when I read what you wrote.
A tree is a tree. Yes it is alive but has really no
conscious life that I have ever heard or read about.
As for proof, sometimes the proof is well hidden and not meant to be found. THat is where Faith in whatever you believe comes into play. One really good book on reincarnation that I have read is Journey of Souls. Another book that you can look into is the Books of the Dead, Thibetan and Egyptian, or books that are written about them and the mention of having to "drink from the river of forgetfullness" before be incarnated again. For example, too much baggage in the past in this life has an effect on our present lives. Just imagine the baggage that would come from knowing everything about your past lives could mess this life up. What if you were a murderer in a past life? That is the best reason that I can give that we can't recall these past lives because the guilt may be unbearable or we may all be commiting suicide for do overs when this life gets so screwed up.
@rose: Even though I have memories of a past life or two, I can't say whether they're actual memories or not. Still, one thing you might try considering is that maybe one reason why you and maybe most (Don't know the percentage for this) people don't have memories of a past life is because this is your first life. It may be but it may also not be, just offering a perspective on it. Also, who knows why some of us have memories of a past life in the first place and who can say how and what will insure someone is reborn. While reincarnation I believe is possible, I don't rule out the possibility that not everyone is reborn through reincarnation. Reborn through heaven yeah and I'd like to believe that if through heaven then we'd get the correct body to match our gender.
Quote from: Jess42 on May 01, 2014, 04:23:30 PMor we may all be commiting suicide for do overs when this life gets so screwed up.
^ This! That is probably the BEST answer I've ever heard for a reason why we can't remember. (or remember much)
This might be bold, but personally, I know for a fact that reincarnation exists. I'm not someone to shove my beliefs down anyone's throat, so I often keep quiet about it but I remember my past life from before. I don't remember every single memory. I mean, hell, I don't even remember what happened to me five years ago but these memories are strong and vivid in my mind. For years, I thought it might have been dreams or a huge fabrication in my mind in compensation for being born in the wrong body.
Then, about six years ago, I saw a photograph that was taken a little over fifty years ago and I recognised everyone who was in that picture-- even myself, by name. I dug into it deeper until it drove me mad and I was correct. About everything. Memories flowed through my mind with even more ease and buried spiritual feelings were raging inside of me. I was always called an old soul, but I dismissed reincarnation all my life since I was raised nothing but Christian.
My girlfriend helped me through it, because I went through a harsh grieving period. I was depressed about it. I was actively thinking about the people before and it was painful. I had the same recurring nightmare about getting murdered. It was in the same way, in the same place, and by the same person each time. The earliest nightmare I had of this place was back when I was too young to have understood that kind of violence. I recall being at the most four years old and I was heavily shielded by my parents (they never even watched action movies or the news around me until I got older).
My body dysphoria is crippling. Too crippling. I've never been able to be comfortable or happy. It's not just my chest or genitals, I experience major insecurity even in my face and hands. Long before I saw that photograph, and the other ones, I wanted to look like this set person in my mind-- who had a different appearance altogether. It was wishing for something impossible with my genetics. Unless a miracle happened, I could never look like that. I have a hard time and can't be intimate in this body, because I know or remember how having sex felt like as a man. Even masturbation or simply ejaculating. Before, I thought I was just filling the blanks in my head to help me fantasise and get off, but maybe not. Also, I never heard the word "penis" or should know what balls were, let alone what they would look like... so why when I was 2-3 years old, did I ask my grandmother where my penis and balls were when I was in the bath? And why I was so scared and distraught about my current gentialia?
It explains too that I always responded to the name "John", especially when I was younger. I never responded to my birth name but my head would whip around whenever I heard someone calling out for someone named that. My girlfriend and I have this theory that I may have been born in the wrong body, not by choice, but by coming back too soon. I'm a masculine spirit. I'm very male and back then, I was the stereotypical boy and man. I might have been too impatient and angry... the way that I went out was traumatic. It's funny, because in this life, I'm partially disabled and experience pain in all the same areas but no matter how many times I went to the hospital or the ER because it was too painful or felt like I was "dying", the doctors would always say that my results came back as normal.
I could go on and on about this, but I don't want to bore any of you. Besides, I don't expect anyone to believe me. It just is what it is.
Interesting documentary on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOBfCrxS3U
I've in the past done some research into this such as the video above. And there is something! Is that reincarnation or an active mind at such a young age? I don't know.
Personally I used to as a kid have thoughts or memories about a woman who I never met, was that my past life? My imagination? Or even a memory? I don't know. And it was at such a young age I only remember snippets of the thoughts anyway. Much too less for me to make sense of.
However it doesn't matter if reincarnation exists or not, depending on how you look at it it cannot be real. By this I mean even cases where people claim to remember large chunks of a past life, they only remember snippets. If you cannot remember the past life, if you have a new personality, a new body and a new mind. You are not that previous person but a new one.
If I take two batteries and name them bob and jill. Jill is empty and bob is full. If I remove all the energy within bob and put it all into Jill, Is jill bob?
It is possible the energy of one person may transfer to the new when a death occurs but no matter how you look at it the new born is a completely new person, gender, mind, body everything. Everything that made you, you in a previous life is gone. Energy can be transferred but I don't believe if reincarnation exists that I was Bob the mighty knight in my past life. I just live because when bob died his energy was used in order to create me.
Another example, when you die and get put into the grave, worms, soil and all that take nutrients from your body and then plants use that to grow. If I died and a plant grew from the nutrients from my body, is that plant me? Or did it just use my energy that I no longer need to spring to life?
@Johnny: Some might call it bold, others foolish and arrogant but me? I call it, stating a fact that you yourself believe to be true. Will anyone believe you? I know some will such as myself and I thank you for posting that, read it all. Very interesting. I'd forgotten of cases I'd heard somewhere where people had remembered their past life, then went and dug into what they remembered and found out proof that the life they remembered really happened.
@Blue: Ok, from what I read on your post, I took two things away from your perspective on reincarnation and the examples you gave. The 1st being you are right in that energy was used to bring you to life and some residue of the person whose energy was used came into you. However, the 2nd is another theory in what might be the case and if this theory is correct then you're right but also wrong. Right in energy used to bring you to life and right in that you ARE the new being that is here and now but wrong because you're also still the old person you remember. As for the example of you have new feelings and such that make you who you are now. Well, that's simply because you grew up exp. new stuff in your new body thus the theory (which btw has shown some good evidence that it's true) that how we grow up, what we go through and who we have in our lives and such makes us who we are is very true and very correct however, if reincarnation is applied to this then, a small part of you is still the old you. That's my take on it. Thanks for posting that vid btw, I might try and watch it later. Oh and there is one other possible theory that could tie into your explanation. That battery example is what made me think of it. Ok, in simple terms, say someone copied a person's soul and memories onto another person. While I say copied and while this implies the person who received the copied stuff is now the person who had their memories, soul etc. copied, one could also say this isn't true, especially when you consider two different bodies and souls here. I hope that wasn't confusing but best I can explain besides pointing to a cartoon where two characters switched bodies but say one didn't switch into the other but took over the other body or is now in a fused state.
What if there's just a stew of consciousness and when you're born you take a scoop from that stew and that's what makes you, well you, and when you die your scoop of consciousness goes back into the stew?
Quote from: Jasriella on May 02, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
What if there's just a stew of consciousness and when you're born you take a scoop from that stew and that's what makes you, well you, and when you die your scoop of consciousness goes back into the stew?
That's another way of putting it but goes along with one of the theories I recently mentioned. I kind of like yours more though. :) mmm, soul stew. >:-)
Quote from: Shana-chan on May 03, 2014, 11:57:58 AM
That's another way of putting it but goes along with one of the theories I recently mentioned. I kind of like yours more though. :) mmm, soul stew. >:-)
It's the theory that I find most likely to be true, which I don't like very much either since it takes away what make me just me.
Quote from: Jasriella on May 04, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
It's the theory that I find most likely to be true, which I don't like very much either since it takes away what make me just me.
Why do you find it the most likely to be true?
Quote from: Jasriella on May 02, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
What if there's just a stew of consciousness and when you're born you take a scoop from that stew and that's what makes you, well you, and when you die your scoop of consciousness goes back into the stew?
There are theories of a collective consciousness. There are also theories of genetic memories in which memories are stored in the genes.
As for collective consciousness, I do believe that we could call that God, The Creator, Allah or any other name any religion uses. In other words the Focal Point of all of us or The One or a Cosmic Concious Singularity or The Akashic Records. In my opinion though a Collective Consciousness is more of a storage and collection of all conscious memories that have ever been and will be since it is possible that time possibly doesn't exist outside of our own minds. We are a part of it and it is a part of us.
But since we all have unique personalities, unique experiences, unique lives and unique memories we are our own unique spirits on our own unique learing paths in order to hone our Souls for something more than physical life. I really don't take the theory of genetic memory too seriously since there is seemingly few if any genetic connections between past live and present lives during past life regressions. Yes it is possible but I really don't think the memories that genes can possibly hold can create a whole other life in the consciousnesses above the subconscious.
Like I said before, we are not meant to remember past lives because it would have a profound effect on our present incarnation. Yes there may be some flashes, memories, feelings, ailments and so on that may be hold overs from past incarnations but usually something that will cause strife in this life will remain well hidden even under a past life regression. The future death of an individual cannot be seen by a person in a past life regression because it would change the path of the current incarnation.
Like I said earlier, the best book that I have ever read on the subject and there have been many is Journy of Souls, if you can find it.
As for reincarnation in today's Spirituality, it dissapeard in the 500's AD. It is even theorized that during Christ's time it was a serious dynamic in human Spirituality and there are quite a few instances in the Bible that hints upon it. They are vague and most people have been taught that these instances are just symbolic but the one about a sinner dying a thousand deaths is one that I just can't see as symbolic. Especially when if you go to hell and suffer for eternity if you are bad or go to heaven and spend and eternity in bliss if you are good. What it tells me is that the Soul or Spirit isn't perfected enough(sinning) and has to live a physical life and therefore physical death over and over until it is perfected enough to go on to another existance whatever that may be.
The Gnostic books that were left out of the Bible hints about much more mysticism and reincarnation in the earliest stages of Christianity than the King James version does and if you can ever look them up and read them on the net I suggest it. Why were they left out? Books like the Book of Mary and the Book of Judas hints that things may not quite be what they seem in today's Spiritual environment. That Judas did what Christ wanted him to do and did not betray Christ in the least little bit and that Mary Magdeline may have been Jesus' wife or lover since she herself was a deciple and the closest one of Christ's. In an already big book, what are a few more Books in the New Testement and why leave them out when the Roman Empire adopted Christianity? I just find it amazingly strange that the first and closest followers of Christ and His times on Earth were mysteriously left out of the Bible. Some of these writers were only a generation or two from Christ's own time.
Whether or not reincarnation is true is debateable. In the past it has been an accepted part of Spirtual dynamics. When the body dies, it is true that it rots and becomes just a bunch of minerals and material of this planet. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. So you that you see in the mirror dies and will remain dead but the consciousness, Soul or Spirit that animates who you see in the mirror is that part of us that goes on. That is energy that allows your heat to beat, brain and mind to function as one and energy cannot be destroyed or so they say. Regardless of whether it is true or not one thing for certain is that we will all find out one day.
Quote from: Jess42 on May 05, 2014, 10:03:56 AMSo you that you see in the mirror dies and will remain dead but the consciousness, Soul or Spirit that animates who you see in the mirror is that part of us that goes on. That is energy that allows your heat to beat, brain and mind to function as one and energy cannot be destroyed or so they say. Regardless of whether it is true or not one thing for certain is that we will all find out one day.
Didn't Albert Einstein come up with a similar theory? Of how there is still energy remaining even after the body has been dead for a while or something?
Energy can't be created or destroyed, just transferred, changed, converted and stored. Physically, when our bodies die, the process of decay begins, we break down, becoming the energy and nourishment for other things. It is the same for matter, can neither be created or destroyed, just changed.
All matter and energy originated with the big bang, before the big bang, we don't know.
This is not taking the metaphysical into account though, which I do believe in. This was just to touch further on the energy points made.
Quote from: Jasriella on May 05, 2014, 10:30:49 AM
Didn't Albert Einstein come up with a similar theory? Of how there is still energy remaining even after the body has been dead for a while or something?
Yeah it was Einstein's theory in that energy can be transformed but not destroyed. The one thing that I find most intriguing about stories of people dying during surgery, having and out of body experience and then coming back and being able to recall what the circumstances and even conversations during their death is that how can they recall all of this when under anesthesia. I have had minor surgery and I totally lost that time. No dreams, no recollections, just "are you ready?" Me, " I guess so." and the next thing I know and hear is the Dr. asking me how I feel and an hour had went by. So if anesthesia knocks a person totally unconscious and someone that dies during this time leaves their body and can recall certain things and what was said, where does that come from. There were no dreams for me or even any sense of the passage of time. It's like I blinked my eyes but that blink lasted an hour in real time but less than a second in my perception of time.
Quote from: Colleen♡Callie on May 05, 2014, 10:49:07 AM
Energy can't be created or destroyed, just transferred, changed, converted and stored. Physically, when our bodies die, the process of decay begins, we break down, becoming the energy and nourishment for other things. It is the same for matter, can neither be created or destroyed, just changed.
All matter and energy originated with the big bang, before the big bang, we don't know.
This is not taking the metaphysical into account though, which I do believe in. This was just to touch further on the energy points made.
You got me thinking on that one. I should have emphasised intellegent energy when talking about consciousness. Energy is abundant but very little of it seems to be intellegent.
Even unconscious our minds are active. We still hear and smell, etc. Our awareness of this however is shut off, given that we are not conscious. But it is there, being processed and filtered through our working memory (aka our short term memory). The shock of dying could have been enough to rouse their awareness enough to commit the sounds they heard around them and the dream they had.
Like when your asleep and dreaming, but not in a deep sleep, and someone calls your name to wake you, but it just becomes part of the dream.
That'd be the skeptics explanation of recounting the conversation.
Now, there's really no foreseeable way to explain how they can recount specific visual events that occurred while their eyes were closed. I guess you could claim medical shows gave them enough understanding to imagine a surgery happening, but that would, for me, only work with generic situations not specific one.
Like I said, I believe in the metaphysical, but also like to consider other ways and explanations that can account for things.
Quote from: Jess42 on May 05, 2014, 11:59:19 AM
You got me thinking on that one. I should have emphasised intellegent energy when talking about consciousness. Energy is abundant but very little of it seems to be intellegent.
This is true. But is it our complex cellular structure that is intelligent or the energy? There are intelligent computers that run on regular electricity. It's the complex structure of circuitry and chips that is the intelligence.
Then again, without the energy, we are nothing but organic matter without life or intelligence, and that computer is just metal, plastc and silicone.
Perhaps it is the energy. The more complex the pattern the energy takes, the more intelligent it is. Our neural pathways compared to say, gravity.
I like this thread, gives me stuff to ponder.
You know, I am gonna kinda' get off topic on this but not really because to acknowledge reincarnation you have to acknowledge that some part of ourselves escape from the bonds of the physical body. Yes all of that can be explained exaclty the way you described but for some reason I just can't believe it. I am extremely skeptical but I also at the same time investigate paranormal occurances especially if they are causing someone some some negative experiences. Not so much anymore since everybody and their family now are investigators but occasionally I do. I catch things on digital voice recorders and I catch things on video. Most of what I catch such as "orbs" or mysterious mists aren't even considered, too many variables involved with that. And when it comes to voices if I can't make it out clearly without enhancing the crap out of it, I don't even consder that either. So with that said, I only delve deeper in about 5-10% of the evidence that I do capture. When I go back and try to recreate what I captured or find any plausable reason for it, usually I can debunk it on normal every day things. That leaves me with about 2% of the evidence that I have as legitimate paranormal activity.
I also delve in parapsychology and most times I can make a psychological reason. Fear is a big big factor in paranormal activity, whether it is fear of death or the unknown or just things that go bump in the night. Fear magnifies normal occurances if the person has no idea what or where nioses or shadows are coming from. Shadow people that are so prevailant in the paranormal ocurrances are purely explainable through parapsychology and the way the brain is hard wired and I have experienced thes "shadow people" myself but know them for what they are. When you see one it will take you by suprise but on further investigation, the mind is hardwired to recognize human shapes and the same way with voices in order to seek other humans out. This is an evolutionary hold over in the brain so as to fecognize our own species and then band together. But in the same instance if someone believes they are haunted, psycholgically they are truly haunted and it and occurances build and the connections are mad in the brain and the haunting to the person becomes extrememly real to them. yes I do have shadows but not shadow people on vcr tape that I don't even know will play anymore without falling apart. Most of the stuff is from a long time ago when cassette both video and audio ruled the world. God I'm old. :(
But there is that 2% that even my skeptic mind can't explain. Full sentences answering a question that I or someone else asked. In one, a certain voice that kind of puts me in the mind that I am the ghost to the person on the tape. He sounds startled and says clearly, "who's there?" a pause and then, Is anyone there, who are you?" This chilled me clean to the bone and I have never captured anything else like that again. I have shadows crossing rooms that do not seem to be against a wall and trying to recreate the shadows were to no avail and believe me I try to debunk everything that I catch just to be sure.
Could some of this be what we call residual, stored in minerals or other materials like the smell of smoke in wood that is released during certain temperatures and meteorolgical conditions? Yes, no doubt in my mind. Also minerals deposits like limstone and quartz crystals can supposedly store emotions especially hieghtened either positive or negative and so on or just basic human life to play over and over again when certain conditions are just right. But asking questions and getting legitimate responses to those questions lead me to believe that some are intellegent occurances. Especially answers on a recorder or certain knocks for yes and no. And no, I have never seen a full blown ghost just to set the record straight, but I wish. ;)
With that little or actually long background said and explained and some of my experiences, there just seems to be a side of ourselves that is intellegent that survives death of the physical body. This could be the intellegent energy or consciousness that I spoke of. Also could be the reason why when people die during surgery under anesthesia that they can recall things is because that consciousness is no longer bound to the brain or body but the minute they are "saved" can't recall anything else or actually feel sucked back and then unconsciousness again. I really don't know. I really can't say but reincarnation to me makes more sense than anything else having to do with Spirituality, Just to stay on topic. Anyway there just seems like there should be more to life than being born, living however long and then dying and ceasing to exist consciously. But then again I maybe crazy. Soemtimes even I wonder about that. ;D
Fully agree Jess.
Quote from: Colleen♡Callie on May 05, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Fully agree Jess.
Wow that take me back some Colleen. Most people don't agree with me and usually let the crazy lady go on with another rant. ;D
Oh no. It almost sounds like we're a bit of kindred spirits, except I never went out investigating myself or anything. I try to find explanations for things rather than just accepting oh yeah that's proof, but still believe there has to be more to the world than is readily explainable, and more to life than this.
Maybe I'm crazy too though.
Quote from: Colleen♡Callie on May 05, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
Oh no. It almost sounds like we're a bit of kindred spirits, except I never went out investigating myself or anything. I try to find explanations for things rather than just accepting oh yeah that's proof, but still believe there has to be more to the world than is readily explainable, and more to life than this.
Maybe I'm crazy too though.
Welcome to the club Colleen.
If you ever do get a chance to go on an invetigation or just investigate something on your own do it. But at least have one other person with you though for safety and to collaborate your experiences. Number one rule is always get permission whether it is an abandoned graveyard, structure or so on. If it is a structure make sure that it is safe enough. If you can't find a particular owner, check with your local authorities, they will either tell you who owns something or if not and it is public property let them know and ask if its OK to be there. When a friend and I were investigating an old graveyard stuck way back in the woods, with permission from the Sheriff's office, a deputy would come by every couple of hours and ceck on us to make sure we were OK. Around sunrise he came back and was asking what we had if anything and talked to us for about an hour. The next little investigation he came along with us.
I'm about 50% sure, inasmuch as I don't think we can ever prove something like reincarnation 100%. But the 50% of me that believes is pretty sure what I experienced in 2012 was not just a fluke.
I did not undergo regression. I had a spontaneous and traumatic recall of a previous life as a British infantryman in the First World War that was detailed enough to trace my identity. I attribute the cause of the experience to the emotional turmoil I was suffering when my gender dysphoria hit critical mass in 2011-2013.
I recalled two other lives I was able to trace, one in England in the Middle Ages and one in California in the mid 20th century. Between the two English lives, as between my previous American life and my current one, I found such a thick string of close and remarkable coincidences that I'm inclined to believe that reincarnation, or else our simultaneous existence in multiple planes of non-linear time that we mistake for past lives, is an actual phenomenon. Or maybe I'm a nutjob; I'm never completely certain.
What I am sure about is that I didn't believe in reincarnation at all until my memories broke. Before then I thought it might be interesting if it did occur but felt I was better off living as if I only had this life because reincarnation sounded like wishful thinking to me. I now think that reincarnation, when we are confronted with its implications and the philosophical problems it poses, is anything but a comforting thought.
This is why I turned to Gnosticism; it seemed the only system that made sense from my point of view (though I see much that is good in Buddhism as well). It makes sense to me that the phenomenal world isn't our true home, and that we get sucked into it by becoming big, contaminated balls of tendencies that put us in ruts lasting hundreds of years.
It's intriguing to think that one day, I might become aware enough of my true nature that I can either escape from rebirth altogether or at least learn a little control over the process. Gnosticism might be a dead end, but from where I stand, I've got nothing to lose by trying.
Quote from: Rose City Rose on November 16, 2014, 11:42:55 PM
It's intriguing to think that one day, I might become aware enough of my true nature that I can either escape from rebirth altogether or at least learn a little control over the process. Gnosticism might be a dead end, but from where I stand, I've got nothing to lose by trying.
I wouldn't consider it a dead end as much as a bigger continuation of the story that got left out of a big part of Christianity. Sort of the real forbidden fruit. It is knowledge into the life of Christ that most mainstream religions refuse to accept. So Rose, History repeats itself and we are taking in the forbiddend knowledge so that would make those of us that look into these things Eve in the eyes of most mainstream churches. It does make so much more sense to me that Mary Magdeline was not a "whore" but a widow that was pretty well off and joined Jesus. Actually funded Jesus', for lack of a better word, ministry. That she was his closest deciple points to a relationship more than just her being an apostle. Even so that it prompted a jelousy from other desciples. That Judas didn't betray Crist but rather did what Christ asked and wanted him to do.
What may or may not be is a big mystery. Perceptions change and we learn everyday through some type of inner revelation whether we know it or not. Wheter it is Spiritual in nature or not. It is extremely dangerous though when convictions turn into stone and your convictions become the "solid truth". The truth is that the "Truth" is uncomprehensible in our current states of concsiousnesses. We are supposed to search for it the best we can though and try our best to understand and let the most positive aspects of ourselves dictate our lives instead of the negative apsects.
I believe in more but what we think of as eternity may be the six minutes or so it takes the brain to die after the body stops breathing. The rest may just be dreams or fragments of dreams. But then again... Anything is possible. Anything and everything. That is in the Bible itself which leaves way more questions than it answers for me.
Quote from: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 07:24:17 AMI wouldn't consider it a dead end as much as a bigger continuation of the story that got left out of a big part of Christianity. Sort of the real forbidden fruit. It is knowledge into the life of Christ that most mainstream religions refuse to accept. So Rose, History repeats itself and we are taking in the forbiddend knowledge so that would make those of us that look into these things Eve in the eyes of most mainstream churches.
I meant it "might be a dead end" in inasmuch as there's always a leap of faith, for someone born in a modern world, to say that the apparent, material world is not the absolute reality we thought we stood firmly on. I've had to suspend a measure of disbelief which was not comfortable for me, since making any conclusion that isn't supported by a repeatable hypothesis makes me uneasy, but it makes sense when I parse the decision in light of my own experiences.
Quote from: Jess42 on November 17, 2014, 07:24:17 AM
I believe in more but what we think of as eternity may be the six minutes or so it takes the brain to die after the body stops breathing. The rest may just be dreams or fragments of dreams.
I actually had a similar idea, that we are actually still in our last moments in some early paradise that we were so attached to that we were reluctant to leave, and that each incarnation was the product of the massive dose of DMT delivered by the brain at the moment of death. And so each lifetime is essentially the last seconds of the previous lifetime in a continuous nesting effect, a "chronolysis" if you will, wherein a moment is split infinitely so that we approach the final separation from the phenomenal but never reach it.
When you start looking to how things seem to fit together with the cosmos itself. There is a bigger connection than just mythe and fairytales. How our "religious' symbology seems to concide with the different ages. Whether or not it is subconscious or some type of reality, I can't even begin to guess. Only that it is there. Just like I always wondered to an already seemingly endless book, the gnostic gospels were left out.
It is kind of intriguing to think that eternity may only be six minutes or so. But what is time anyway? To me it is pretty much just the plotting of the cosmos. 60 minutes is an hour and 24 of those make an earth day and 364 and 1/4 of those make an earth year and the cellestial ages last roughly 2400 years give or take and the great ages last 26000 years. That is time as we know it but is it just an illusion though? I don;t know but it just seems like there is way more to it that is so far beyond our comprehension.
I think we are here to learn. We're not here just to die, we are here to grow. To grow like the tree of life, in both directions, to be fully rooted in death through life, and flowering in life through death.
I really do believe in reincarnation due simply to the fact that I've read articles where, mostly children, who's never been to certain areas in their present life that could recall directions or certain landmarks and locations that they would of never knew existed. There could be a scientific element to reincarnation such as the life cycle, i.e. body would decomp due to parasites, these parasites get eaten or get absorbed through plants, which in return get eaten by an animal, and that animal gets eaten by another animal, and finally a human eats that animal, and keep continuing until you are.. born again.. but could spirit/soul travel through with that? not sure, would be God question or something we don't know about... or it could be totally off the science and done through another way. Either way, it's one of those life mysteries that we'll never know about of it really does exist or not :) But for this reason, I'll be buried when I die and in hopes if I am born again I am born correctly o.o
I believe in reincarnation. I think we each have too much to learn for one lifetime.
Also, my wife and I have had a lot of dogs in our long time together, and we've developed the theory that our pets can return to us.
I know of two interesting print-book discussions of reincarnation: One is the alchemy novel Red Lion that follows one being through many lifetimes. The other is Robert Thurman's translation of the so-called Tibetan Book of the Dead, which discusses the history of the Tibetan Book of the Dead: As it is now with China's stranglehold, Tibet was previously overtaken by unbelievers and the Book of the Dead was hidden away. When times were safer, reincarnated beings directed the rediscovery of the Book of the Dead.
It has been pointed out that Nature is a strong believer in recycling, and that it would be truly odd if an advanced development such as consciousness were not recycled somehow.
-- Sue
Quote from: DogSpirit on March 24, 2016, 06:47:46 PM
I believe in reincarnation. I think we each have too much to learn for one lifetime.
Also, my wife and I have had a lot of dogs in our long time together, and we've developed the theory that our pets can return to us.
I know of two interesting print-book discussions of reincarnation: One is the alchemy novel Red Lion that follows one being through many lifetimes. The other is Robert Thurman's translation of the so-called Tibetan Book of the Dead, which discusses the history of the Tibetan Book of the Dead: As it is now with China's stranglehold, Tibet was previously overtaken by unbelievers and the Book of the Dead was hidden away. When times were safer, reincarnated beings directed the rediscovery of the Book of the Dead.
It has been pointed out that Nature is a strong believer in recycling, and that it would be truly odd if an advanced development such as consciousness were not recycled somehow.
-- Sue
Hmm. I'm never believed in afterlife or reincarnation, but that is a thought provoking sentence.
Hugs, Devlyn
Who knows, maybe I'm being punished for things I did in a previous life and they "generously" gave me this fate rather than being born in some poor community in Africa. What do they call it? Karma?
There's bad and then there's worse. Compared to some countries, my life is probably godly, even if I constantly bemoan it as a terrible curse cast upon me by a sadistic higher being.
Did your toilet have a heated seat, wash your butt and wipe it too. No you say. OK it wasn't Japanese.
Quote from: Xirafel on September 03, 2016, 05:48:45 PM
Who knows, maybe I'm being punished for things I did in a previous life and they "generously" gave me this fate rather than being born in some poor community in Africa. What do they call it? Karma?
There's bad and then there's worse. Compared to some countries, my life is probably godly, even if I constantly bemoan it as a terrible curse cast upon me by a sadistic higher being.
I presume the sadistic higher being is yourself ;)
But yeah when it comes to reincarnation, there's really no way of proving it on a personal level, since you'd have to die first for it. When it comes to weird cases though, try googling (or reading up on) Imad Elawar...
I strongly believe in Reincarnation, but its a little weird a lot like the book Elsewhere (strongly recommend reading it). I believe we are or at the very less that what makes us, returns to (for lack of better words) the life stream (sounds like a Final Fantasy VII / X thing) in there our energy is renewed and returned to the mortal world. Now I have had (again for lack of better words) visions of what I believe to be my past lives, never something as clear as gender but Ive seen and been in my past life. I fought in war of the roses, thats the only truth I know.
But anyway everyone has their own idea's of what happens when are current time is up, maybe the idea of the life stream isn't just limited to our planet but connects to all of them. Who knows and as fun as it is to dream this is one topic that no matter what you believe you know, we will never know and it makes it all that more fun lol.
So far from every religion, philosophy and other I've read, only a few are near the truth, even if we don't know the absolute truth. How to now we are near the truth? It firstly must not violate or negate our reality and science. Since a theory is supposed to be the truth, it must embrace reality and science. Complement it, use it, be part of it. Otherwise, it feels already false for me without any need of further reading. It may sound obvious but some religions and philosophy denies things that we already know to exist.
I have a major preference for spiritism, that respect the basics I've mentionned and explain a lot more. Reincarnation is explained in details including the entire universe in the game, not us and not our tiny planet only. It explains how matter work and others work and it's done with a high degree of complexity and refinement but simple at the same time. It's impossible to say if it's definitively true but for me it's one of the best trail that we have so I tend to use it in my life.
Memory would be conserved in our true form, and not accessible (most of it) from a body of matter. The goal of existence would be to live in differents worlds to learn and get better, which need countless lives, to reach a point where pain is not needed anymore to progress and in the later, to participate in helping and in harmony of everything. Well, when you search for answers, this theory worth a read.
Quote from: Shana-chan on August 20, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
Not sure where else to post this but, reincarnation, is it real or not? I ask a simple yet VERY hard question to answer since obviously, this requires proof. Now WHY am I asking such a simple but hard to answer question? Good question indeed. :) Truth is, I myself have a few memories which just flat out ISN'T possible for me to have unless a few things were the case and one of those is that of reincarnation. Sure these "memories" could have been a dream, maybe I made them up? Or perhaps somehow I got them from someone else. (They aren't my memories but somehow I'm seeing their memories and this is different from reincarnation since I'm me and they're them) I'll tell you the memories I have.
1. I have some memories here and there of a place I believe to be Japan yet I've never been to Japan and other than "possibly" a "few" shows I watched which had scenes of Japan, I can't explain why I have these memories. Yet I heard that most Americans see the man on the moon while most Japanese see the Bunny on the moon, I see the Bunny and only once saw the man on the moon. I happen to love Japan too. Coincidence? I can't say for sure so I don't know.
2. I remember talking to someone who I believe to be God because I asked that being to make me a boy. (Or let me be born a boy) I was clearly a female at that point and why in the UNIVERSE I'd ask such a thing!? I honestly have no idea but boy if that really did happen, I wish I hadn't been so stupid! >_< (Obviously I want to be a female and do away with this male body)
3. Later on I remember taking a shower, again as a woman. I believe this was on Earth (Though can't be 100% sure) and the shower looked kind of modern I guess. (Though the lights were dimmed pretty good)
4. I honestly don't know if this is just me thinking this is how it'd feel if a girl felt that way in terms of doing certain things such as kissing and so on but I have had a few times where I felt that way. Really this is a different type since it's not a memory in the head but my body actually felt those same feelings but again, not sure if this is just me thinking that's how it'd feel since I know how it works/looks and such and therefore somehow tricking my body into feeling those things. (Though there's a chance I might be intersex so maybe that explains it?)
5. I think that's it, other than I might have some memories of London but again nor sure there and I'm thinking it couldn't have been more than 50-100 years ago for that shower and these "possible" memories of London which have become quite blurry to the point I don't remember them but know I once remembered them.
So all this, and yet, that's not enough proof for me nor can I say for sure any of that is real. What say you all? I'd like to hear what you have to say on this matter and of course, if you can offer any "proof" such as someone clearly remembered certain events from who they once were and later met up with the older sibling and told them those memories and as a result the older sibling could say that's what happened and might have even photo graphed (Taken a picture) that event and to better back up those two people, they took a lie detector test and so on which proved they weren't lying. So proof like that or proof aside from just saying I remember these things.
Now I'd like to say something here. I'm NOT crazy nor do I claim to be someone who was reincarnated, all I'm saying is I have these memories which I shouldn't have and hope to get to the bottom of them.
I don't remember which channeled book(s) said this, but my understanding is that many people who lived most lifetimes as one gender chose to come back as the opposite. I would imagine that is to have a balanced understanding of All That Is or to challenge oneself to be authentic.
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Just sharing, because I personally believe in reincarnation and many of the points brought up over the course of the thread mirror my own beliefs and understanding.
For me, reincarnation just seems to make the most sense. It's all based on growth. Concepts such as heaven or hell feel too absolute for me that both ideas somewhat cancel each other out. Reincarnation just seems to make the most sense. We all have to get somewhere.
Over the years, I've done my own research and meditations into the ideas of reincarnation, and to a smaller degree, ideas that connect to existence radiating through several frequencies and soul growth...
In my personal experience, I do believe that most of the lives I've experienced were as a female and my being born "male" in this lifetime was my way of spiritually growing and understanding universal balance. That being said, I do believe we have control over the way a lifetime will shape before our births. The crazy makes more sense from a metaphysical standpoint. Our lives are what we make of it, but so much of what has happened in previous lifetimes affects who we are today.
My experience as a "male" and my owning up to my inherent and unending femininity is part of my soul's personal progression through existence.
I had done regression mediation successfully in the past. The first allowed me to glimpse a life at least a hundred twenty years ago. I saw myself, and saw my parents, and when I had looked into my father's eyes, I experienced such tremendous fear. In my understanding, I had been a victim of sexual assault that scarred me enough to be institutionalized for some time. I had done mediations that allowed me to heal my past self. In another experience, I was able to get a glimpse at my own Akashic records.
It sounds crazy. But given my understanding of self, it makes so much sense to me.
It was all so long ago... There is a way to do it, but it requires so much. And even then, a lot of it is up to the mediator themselves to gauge as to what's the most comfortable way to attune themselves to those kind of frequencies.
Quote from: veronicashannon88 on November 12, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
Just sharing, because I personally believe in reincarnation and many of the points brought up over the course of the thread mirror my own beliefs and understanding.
For me, reincarnation just seems to make the most sense. It's all based on growth. Concepts such as heaven or hell feel too absolute for me that both ideas somewhat cancel each other out. Reincarnation just seems to make the most sense. We all have to get somewhere.
Over the years, I've done my own research and meditations into the ideas of reincarnation, and to a smaller degree, ideas that connect to existence radiating through several frequencies and soul growth...
In my personal experience, I do believe that most of the lives I've experienced were as a female and my being born "male" in this lifetime was my way of spiritually growing and understanding universal balance. That being said, I do believe we have control over the way a lifetime will shape before our births. The crazy makes more sense from a metaphysical standpoint. Our lives are what we make of it, but so much of what has happened in previous lifetimes affects who we are today.
My experience as a "male" and my owning up to my inherent and unending femininity is part of my soul's personal progression through existence.
I had done regression mediation successfully in the past. The first allowed me to glimpse a life at least a hundred twenty years ago. I saw myself, and saw my parents, and when I had looked into my father's eyes, I experienced such tremendous fear. In my understanding, I had been a victim of sexual assault that scarred me enough to be institutionalized for some time. I had done mediations that allowed me to heal my past self. In another experience, I was able to get a glimpse at my own Akashic records.
It sounds crazy. But given my understanding of self, it makes so much sense to me.
It was all so long ago... There is a way to do it, but it requires so much. And even then, a lot of it is up to the mediator themselves to gauge as to what's the most comfortable way to attune themselves to those kind of frequencies.
Yes. I also want to believe so. Well written. Thanks.
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