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Title: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: CindyLouCovington on February 10, 2019, 09:14:53 pm
Perhaps the most practical is to have urinal rooms,obviously men only.and unisex toilet rooms.this would eliminate women having to go into a unisex room with men at urinals, and since toilets are eclosed and seperate little rooms each one,this solves the privacy issuesMen don't bother with toilets unless they have to defecate.Usually they use the urinals.This seems to me to be the best solution.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Gertrude on February 10, 2019, 10:06:49 pm
George Carlin said urinals are 50% universal.


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Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Jessica on February 10, 2019, 10:32:11 pm
Perhaps the most practical is to have urinal rooms,obviously men only.and unisex toilet rooms.this would eliminate women having to go into a unisex room with men at urinals, and since toilets are eclosed and seperate little rooms each one,this solves the privacy issuesMen don't bother with toilets unless they have to defecate.Usually they use the urinals.This seems to me to be the best solution.

Interesting thought.  The urinal room should be considerably smaller though.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: snbab on February 10, 2019, 11:45:26 pm
Perhaps the most practical is to have urinal rooms,obviously men only.and unisex toilet rooms.this would eliminate women having to go into a unisex room with men at urinals, and since toilets are eclosed and seperate little rooms each one,this solves the privacy issuesMen don't bother with toilets unless they have to defecate.Usually they use the urinals.This seems to me to be the best solution.
As a truck driver delivering to Target stores, in the storage/back areas (employees only), the newer stores have unisex restrooms. Most only have a toilet. A few also have a urinals. The common factor is one person at a time, lock the door when you enter, unlock as you leave. So there is no need to be concerned as to how you present vrs your physical parts.

In high usage locations, such as theaters, I like your idea of urinal rooms, and separate rooms with enclosed private toilets.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: jill610 on February 11, 2019, 05:27:21 am
In Philadelphia, unisex restrooms have been gaining in popularity. All that I have see are just a bunch of single stall toilets, I have never seen urinals either in the open or in stalls and would probably turn around if I saw them in the open.

The point is to minimize the amount of space used for restrooms while having enough to keep lines and complaints to a minimum, so having a second room and infrastructure (plumbing, footprint, maintenance and cleaning) would seem to defeat the purpose of unisex restrooms.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mac1 on March 11, 2019, 12:09:00 am
As a truck driver delivering to Target stores, in the storage/back areas (employees only), the newer stores have unisex restrooms. Most only have a toilet. A few also have a urinals. The common factor is one person at a time, lock the door when you enter, unlock as you leave. So there is no need to be concerned as to how you present vrs your physical parts.

In high usage locations, such as theaters, I like your idea of urinal rooms, and separate rooms with enclosed private toilets.
The urinals could be eliminated to allow for a larger room with more stalls.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mm on March 11, 2019, 08:57:04 am
They can get more urinals in the same space another reason why men's room lines are short they have more places to pee.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Linde on March 11, 2019, 09:48:18 am
They can get more urinals in the same space another reason why men's room lines are short they have more places to pee.
I did see a lot of bathrooms in Belgium that are unisex and have a line of urinals along one wall and the other wall with stalls..  Neither guys nor girls did care, because either one knows pretty much how the other functions!
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Haley Conner on April 03, 2019, 04:33:55 pm
I see a problem in that men would then have a male only space, and women would always be sharing the restroom with men.  And women like to use the restroom as a private place to talk to other women, without men, so, I think women would be unhappy with this solution.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Linde on April 03, 2019, 04:51:40 pm
I see a problem in that men would then have a male only space, and women would always be sharing the restroom with men.  And women like to use the restroom as a private place to talk to other women, without men, so, I think women would be unhappy with this solution.
It seemed to work pretty well in Belgium, but they were all public bathrooms, and women in the US hardly use them for socializing!
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mac1 on December 01, 2019, 12:13:14 am
I don't know why we can't have just one large room with private stalls and a common wash area.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Colleen_definitely on December 02, 2019, 07:25:58 pm
George Carlin said urinals are 50% universal.


They're 100% universal if you're adventurous and have low hygiene standards.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Linde on December 02, 2019, 09:32:41 pm
They're 100% universal if you're adventurous and have low hygiene standards.
What about all the overspray?   ::)
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mac1 on December 02, 2019, 09:51:23 pm
What about all the overspray?   ::)
Urinals are disgusting.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Lady Sarah on December 02, 2019, 10:07:48 pm
Then, you encounter "park bathrooms", in which the toilet stalls have no doors.  Most people avoid these, yet advocate for them when discussing transgender people using restrooms and want to catch them in the act.

I found it interesting this past weekend that there was a line for the "family restrooms" in which no gender was posted, but no line at all for the women's restroom at the mall.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mac1 on December 02, 2019, 10:25:16 pm
Then, you encounter "park bathrooms", in which the toilet stalls have no doors.  Most people avoid these, yet advocate for them when discussing transgender people using restrooms and want to catch them in the act.

I found it interesting this past weekend that there was a line for the "family restrooms" in which no gender was posted, but no line at all for the women's restroom at the mall.

There should not be any toilet stalls without doors. Also, I am uncomfortable using men's rooms with inadequate doors.  Should be able to use the women's room where that is not the case.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Colleen_definitely on December 03, 2019, 05:56:12 am
What about all the overspray?   ::)

That's the joke.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Linde on December 03, 2019, 03:30:22 pm
Urinals are disgusting.
Because of the overspray? 
I have not seen a urinal for quite some time now, but I know that the toilet seats in bathrooms for females are not that great either.   After all, I caught a fungus infection there a few months ago, and now a UTI.  I need to learn how to properly hover when I have to use them!
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: GordonG on December 03, 2019, 03:53:18 pm
Many many moons ago I had a job as a janitor for a major brand department store. Part of my job was cleaning the restrooms daily. I can say without a doubt that the women's were messier than the men's as a general rule.  In fact one day I walked in and was suddenly hit with a distinct odor. I found a pile of <not allowed> in the corner.

From; https://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/story?id=1213831&page=1
"Really the cleanest areas in the bathroom are actually the door handle and the toilet seat,"
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: JanePlain on December 03, 2019, 05:14:17 pm
Then, you encounter "park bathrooms", in which the toilet stalls have no doors.  Most people avoid these, yet advocate for them when discussing transgender people using restrooms and want to catch them in the act.

I found it interesting this past weekend that there was a line for the "family restrooms" in which no gender was posted, but no line at all for the women's restroom at the mall.

Oh #$#% This is how they did that in the US Navy at Great Lakes.  Sitting on the toilet with 20 other people trying not to look at each other. 
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Liam Eric on December 05, 2019, 03:32:57 pm
Perhaps the most practical is to have urinal rooms,obviously men only.and unisex toilet rooms.this would eliminate women having to go into a unisex room with men at urinals, and since toilets are eclosed and seperate little rooms each one,this solves the privacy issuesMen don't bother with toilets unless they have to defecate.Usually they use the urinals.This seems to me to be the best solution.

I think the problem with that the men still get their own washroom, and the women are forced to share one. What I’ve heard is that the women’s washroom is essentially a “safe space” where there’s no men. Eliminating a women’s washroom defeats the purpose of said “safe space”, especially if she’s on a date with a male abuser, or wants to get away or needs help. The women’s washroom has essentially become a safe space.

I think the best solution is having a men’s, women’s, and unisex/family toilet.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: JanePlain on February 05, 2020, 12:10:02 am
Urinals are disgusting.
Amen!
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: mac1 on February 09, 2020, 01:03:38 am
Perhaps the most practical is to have urinal rooms,obviously men only.and unisex toilet rooms.this would eliminate women having to go into a unisex room with men at urinals, and since toilets are eclosed and seperate little rooms each one,this solves the privacy issuesMen don't bother with toilets unless they have to defecate.Usually they use the urinals.This seems to me to be the best solution.

That would be a possible solution but not totally fair.  Your assumption about men using urinals is not a universal truth.  I have not used a urinal or even stood for over 22 years.  A total unisex room with private stalls is equal for everybody.  If you still feel that urinals are necessary they should be in an isolated area but that would not be fair to women and men who only sit.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Aoi_Nomel on March 04, 2020, 08:29:57 pm
At my work we have a single toilet unisex bathroom. Other than for me it's mostly used for mothers with children. I have no problem using it as only 1 person can use it at a time.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Jessica_K on March 06, 2020, 02:46:04 am
The restrooms in Moscow restaurants and bars are mostly unisex there is a common area with basins and driers and stalls for the business.

On a different note I was at the Lightning’s ice hockey in Florida a few months ago, annoyingly I had to be dressed male I was dreading going to the restroom as I have to sit, but I was pleasantly surprised to find they were stall only. And the men’s queue was longer than the ladies for once

Jessica xxx
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: Lyric on March 11, 2020, 11:27:51 am
Due to my physiology and frequent water drinking I rarely pass a public restroom. At a newer Whole Foods store the other day I saw my first ungendered pair of rest rooms. Both doors had both gender figure symbols (one figure with a skirt, one without). But the room was a one holer with a sink and no urinal. I suspect both were like that.

I think that would be the best way to go for all small lockable toilets, but for larger ones, other means would be necessary, all right. After one of those darn 2 1/2 hour movies Hollywood keeps turning out the urinal rows are always full at the nearest RR. I like your dedicated urinal room idea, Cindy.

My guess is big corporations like Target and Whole Foods don't want to get caught between customers and state legislature nazis with crazy "bathroom bills". My appreciation to those companies that go that way.
Title: Re: Urinal and toilet rooms
Post by: TSL_NB on June 26, 2020, 09:11:23 pm
We're pretty lucky to live in a province with a small population, so my proposal may not work everywhere.

But, in short, if I were premier and had a majority government, I would legislate to phase out shared-use facilities altogether.  Around here, most washrooms only had two toilets and in the men's washroom, maybe three urinals, and not a whole lot of traffic (even less since COVID-19).

If you de-pluralise them, that nullifies any need for gender assignment.

I know, it's easier said than done, but it's an idea.