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Title: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rachel Montgomery on February 06, 2020, 02:44:13 pm
I am just about completely bald.  Does anyone know what the best solution is for me?  I doubt there is enough hair to transplant.  I assume I would need a hairpiece or wig.  I have seen commercials where people swim in their hair pieces.  Does anyone here have actual experience with prosthetic hair replacement options?  What do you recommend I look into?
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 06, 2020, 05:35:49 pm
Finasteride may help to a small degree.
If transplants are impractical then I guess maybe wigs would be another way to go.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rachel Montgomery on February 06, 2020, 06:04:20 pm
Finasteride may help to a small degree.
If transplants are impractical then I guess maybe wigs would be another way to go.

Chrissy

I think I am beyond the point of Finasteride.  I am more asking about weaves, hair pieces and extensions. 
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Jane.Shannon on February 08, 2020, 04:53:09 am
Hi Rachel,
A weave or extensions require some hair to attach too, so they might not work.  Many surgeons who perform hair restoration offer free consults, so they would only take your time.  Lowering your testosterone level can stop hair loss and restore some hair, have you started HRT yet?
Take Care,
Jane
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: LaRae on February 08, 2020, 06:38:41 am
I think I am beyond the point of Finasteride.  I am more asking about weaves, hair pieces and extensions.


These are real results:

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/LYFNDAafPnLuI1SE53Xg_w--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjIxO2g9NjIw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/4da57c6b0238c664d57939e40ad85d43)

Not everyone has this much effect but it's possible. Even without the Finasteride, just with Estrogen & T-blockers. Don't write yourself off.

 I personally have had significant regrowth. I was never bald, but I went from thick ringlets to quite thin & wispy. I had already been on HRT for a few months, but in this pic you can kinda see how wispy & thin it was:

(https://i.imgur.com/jDZHWqO.jpg)

Within about 6 months of estrogen, my hair looked like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/AhLyo9R.jpg)

Still not the thickest, but a huge improvement.  6 more months & added finasteride & now I'm here:

(https://i.imgur.com/djuq1g8.jpg)

I'd say it's about 85 to 90% where it was before it ever started thinning. It is possible. I was considering the wig route myself before all this.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Maid Marion on February 08, 2020, 09:27:50 am
Hi LaRae,

That is pretty amazing.  Is you hair naturally wavy?
My hair is thick and wavy.  It becomes more manageable as it gets longer.

Marion
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Chloe M on February 08, 2020, 10:21:12 am
I am just about completely bald.  Does anyone know what the best solution is for me?  I doubt there is enough hair to transplant.  I assume I would need a hairpiece or wig.  I have seen commercials where people swim in their hair pieces.  Does anyone here have actual experience with prosthetic hair replacement options?  What do you recommend I look into?
Etsy.com do a range of gym and swim wigs, Think it cost me 40 pounds or there abouts.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: kaygee on February 08, 2020, 11:31:08 am
I think I am beyond the point of Finasteride.  I am more asking about weaves, hair pieces and extensions.

My understanding is that Finasteride will not increase your hair volume, but will slow down your hair loss considerably.

My experience jives with that.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: LaRae on February 08, 2020, 05:28:36 pm
Hi LaRae,

That is pretty amazing.  Is you hair naturally wavy?
My hair is thick and wavy.  It becomes more manageable as it gets longer.

Marion

Yep, it's naturally ringlets. It gets hard to handle once it hits about ear level. It's finally past that point now, so it's mostly easy street. In previous pre-thinning attempts, I almost always cut it before it got this long, but this time I stubbornly rode out the awkward phases, as there was a long time I didn't even consider this possible.

The morning tangles are hell, though, let me tell ya.  ;D

Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: AnonyMs on February 08, 2020, 07:35:08 pm
Here’s what 2 months of a magic potion does

https://imgur.com/gallery/1mE3GOV

Hard to believe it’s possible.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rachel Montgomery on February 11, 2020, 02:35:46 pm
Here’s what 2 months of a magic potion does
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Hard to believe it’s possible.
Is that the doctor in Farmington Hills, MI?
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: AllieSF on February 11, 2020, 05:04:29 pm
Interesting!  I used to live about 5 miles or so from Farmington Hills, MI in Livonia just south an Farmington Road.  I should have stayed there to get trans health care close to home.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: AnonyMs on February 15, 2020, 05:01:08 pm


FARMINGTON HILLS, MI

Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Jenny_Oh on February 15, 2020, 10:10:25 pm
The morning tangles are hell, though, let me tell ya.  ;D
I have super-fine hair that breaks super easily. I used to just sleep on my regular cotton pillow and let my shoulder length hair do what it wanted during the night. I'd loose a handful of hair every morning just trying to get the tangles out. Now, I have a silk pillowcase and put my hair in a loose bun with a silk-scrunchie before bed. I sleep cooler and my hair just doesn't get messed up at night. A silk turban is another option if you don't want to splurge on a set of silk-pillowcases.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on April 30, 2020, 02:19:03 pm
I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to share my insight/input (I have lost a good amount of my hair due to the horrid effects of DHT).

I haven't been able to start HRT as of yet, but, from everything I am reading on it, while it can possibly reverse the effects of DHT, that apparently isn't a guarantee, especially if you have lost it for a long time...the same goes with Finasteride and Minoxidil (although, it likely will preserve what hair you have left).

My planned approach will hopefully look something like this:

 - Undergo hair transplants to restore the hairline and frontal area as best as I can.  I likely won't have enough for the crown area.

 - Once that is in place and growing, that hair will be more useful as a means to clip in hair toppers....I just got a really awesome topper from Jon Renau which has an 11-inch cap, which I'm really excited about. :)

I thought about the possibility of body-hair transplant to the scalp, which, would be a really good use of excess body hair instead of lasering it off, but I decided against this (the consistency won't be the same....but more so, if I actually did undergo a BHT procedure, and then after starting HRT, that hair may end up thinning as well, so I'm back to square one).

Anyhow, that's my general plan.  Hopefully, maybe this will inspire ideas for others here. :)
I think there's always hope, but it may require some creativity.

Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rachel on May 09, 2020, 04:33:20 pm
Hi,

I take 30 grams of hydrolyzed fish collagen each day (this really helps with skin, hair and nails). I am post op so DHT is not an issue. Before GCS I was on finasteride and used minoxidil. I had 2 rounds of hair transplants for 6000 graphs. I will eventually go back for a little more for the part area. 
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Julielynn on May 10, 2020, 07:10:57 am
I have some of that Magic potion as well.   It's not bad.   Slow results, but results.   I had a transplant, but it was still sparse even after that.   It's slowly filling in now. 

It's just a version of Minoxidil with a much higher percentage of it than normal Rogaine.   
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on May 13, 2020, 04:13:45 pm
Hi,
What are peoples' thoughts on saw palmetto?

Has anyone had good experience with it, or is just another snake oil product?
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rakel on May 13, 2020, 08:45:30 pm
Hi,
What are peoples' thoughts on saw palmetto?

Has anyone had good experience with it, or is just another snake oil product?

Saw Palmetto is a herbal product that is sold as a nutritional supplement in the US. It is available all over the world as well. This plant does contain compounds known as phytoestrogens. These are very weak compounds that do mimic Estradiol somewhat. These are commonly used by older cis women who are experiencing mild menopause symptoms.

If you are considering Saw Palmetto for the purpose of MTF transition, a few people have said limited things about this product, but the majority of us feel that it is too weak for complete MTF transition.  ???

For hair loss, this product is not effective. You may lower your Testosterone and DHT a little, but to stop hair loss, you need to greatly lower your DHT blood levels. This is just not strong enough to do much of anything.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Kate.claire on May 14, 2020, 12:15:05 am
Has anyone tried PRP or microneedling to get any additional growth? There's some success in the literature for men and that's in the presence of continuing high levels of DHT for them. Still the papers are few and far between and not in the most respected peer-reviewed journals.

I've thought about giving it a try, in a "it can't hurt" category, other than my wallet.  Then maybe a transplant.

-Kate
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rakel on May 14, 2020, 05:36:01 am
Platelet Rich Plasma is your own blood, just somewhat concentrated. I had PRP injections at the same time as my hair transplants. PRP is very effective in increasing the survival rate of the transplanted hairs.

As a treatment for male pattern baldness, I do not understand the science behind any claims of effectiveness without any hair transplants.

Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on May 14, 2020, 10:45:53 am
Saw Palmetto is a herbal product that is sold as a nutritional supplement in the US. It is available all over the world as well. This plant does contain compounds known as phytoestrogens. These are very weak compounds that do mimic Estradiol somewhat. These are commonly used by older cis women who are experiencing mild menopause symptoms.

If you are considering Saw Palmetto for the purpose of MTF transition, a few people have said limited things about this product, but the majority of us feel that it is too weak for complete MTF transition.  ???

For hair loss, this product is not effective. You may lower your Testosterone and DHT a little, but to stop hair loss, you need to greatly lower your DHT blood levels. This is just not strong enough to do much of anything.


Hi, Rakel....thanks for sharing that.

That was my suspicions on it as well, as I couldn't see how it directly interfaces with DHT in any meaningful way.

Aside from being able to start HRT, I think my recourse will go back to the plan of a hair transplant and hair system combination, once I can get the funds for it (I know that hair loss can affect anyone, but for me, that's been a really big dysphoria trigger over the years).   
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on May 25, 2020, 01:59:37 pm
The hair transplant looks really good. :)

(I had read that after the grafts heal, using Minoxidil on the area where the grafts were placed will accelerate the growth) 
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Rachel Montgomery on June 24, 2020, 03:31:14 pm
Lowering your testosterone level can stop hair loss and restore some hair, have you started HRT yet?
Sorry for taking so long to respond.  I haven't had a secure place to log on much since Covid.  Anyway, to answer your question, I have not started HRT.  But, my Total T was near zero For an extended time, and I didn't regrow any hair.  I don't take T, but I do take Clomid to offset an FSH and LH deficiency. 

I have been bald on top for more than 20 years.  I don't think it is coming back.  I am not sure I have enough to make a reasonably thick head of hair with transplants.   
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: madeleine on June 24, 2020, 07:44:05 pm
Sorry for taking so long to respond.  I haven't had a secure place to log on much since Covid.  Anyway, to answer your question, I have not started HRT.  But, my Total T was near zero For an extended time, and I didn't regrow any hair.  I don't take T, but I do take Clomid to offset an FSH and LH deficiency. 

I have been bald on top for more than 20 years.  I don't think it is coming back.  I am not sure I have enough to make a reasonably thick head of hair with transplants.

I also haven't started HRT and I've heard miracles happen, but I am skeptical like you.  I have classic male pattern baldness.  Bald spot on the crown and receding hairline.  My hair is very fine and thin too.  I have used rogaine for months now and taken biotin supplements, biotin supplements and shampoo, and nizoral.  I see no meaningful change yet. I'll be starting HRT soon - YAY!!! - and I am hoping for the best.

But plan B is a wig.  I've kind of made my peace with plan B if that is where I end up.  Go to a good wig shop, a trans friendly shop if there is one in your area.  You have to spend some money but OMG it is amazing what they can do!  Many cis women wear wigs all the time and some you just can't tell unless you are really looking for it.  And who the hell cares about people that are looking that hard at your hair!  I had some cheap wigs to start - forget that. My photo does not do it justice.  People are amazed. Just go take a look.

EDIT - I'm not advising against transplants and the advice from other girls here!  I may try that too and that is why I read this thread!  Just want to put another option out there.  I know other girls at Susan's use wigs too.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on June 26, 2020, 01:56:31 pm
I also haven't started HRT and I've heard miracles happen, but I am skeptical like you.  I have classic male pattern baldness.  Bald spot on the crown and receding hairline.  My hair is very fine and thin too.  I have used rogaine for months now and taken biotin supplements, biotin supplements and shampoo, and nizoral.  I see no meaningful change yet. I'll be starting HRT soon - YAY!!! - and I am hoping for the best.

But plan B is a wig.  I've kind of made my peace with plan B if that is where I end up.  Go to a good wig shop, a trans friendly shop if there is one in your area.  You have to spend some money but OMG it is amazing what they can do!  Many cis women wear wigs all the time and some you just can't tell unless you are really looking for it.  And who the hell cares about people that are looking that hard at your hair!  I had some cheap wigs to start - forget that. My photo does not do it justice.  People are amazed. Just go take a look.

EDIT - I'm not advising against transplants and the advice from other girls here!  I may try that too and that is why I read this thread!  Just want to put another option out there.  I know other girls at Susan's use wigs too.


Hey Madeleine, that makes two of us.....I'm glad wigs are a viable option, no matter what our hair condition is.

The one thing I would like to do, though, is try to get a transplant just for the hairline and frontal area.  I think this would allow for other options like toppers (where you have a good hairline and frontal hair to allow for clip-ins, etc).

Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: madeleine on June 27, 2020, 05:19:58 pm

Hey Madeleine, that makes two of us.....I'm glad wigs are a viable option, no matter what our hair condition is.

The one thing I would like to do, though, is try to get a transplant just for the hairline and frontal area.  I think this would allow for other options like toppers (where you have a good hairline and frontal hair to allow for clip-ins, etc).

That totally makes sense and sounds like a viable plan.  I should probably look at toppers myself.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on June 28, 2020, 11:49:16 am
That totally makes sense and sounds like a viable plan.  I should probably look at toppers myself.

I found some good Jon Renau synthetic ones (top full, 18 inch, is the one I'm wanting to use, but they are pretty pricey, even for a synthetic one). 

The only problem is the clips in the front don't have a whole lot to grab onto without making my forehead too big (I wanted to make it as low-maintenance as possible, so ideally, I'd like to avoid wig caps and such....but, if I have to use them, I will).
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: madeleine on June 28, 2020, 12:21:55 pm
I found some good Jon Renau synthetic ones (top full, 18 inch, is the one I'm wanting to use, but they are pretty pricey, even for a synthetic one). 

The only problem is the clips in the front don't have a whole lot to grab onto without making my forehead too big (I wanted to make it as low-maintenance as possible, so ideally, I'd like to avoid wig caps and such....but, if I have to use them, I will).

My wig is Jon Renau.  It was worth the money.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Dayle1957 on June 28, 2020, 01:54:21 pm
I am having good results with Finasteride and "Rogaine".  My hair is much thicker and healthier now and I have started to regain the hair at my crown.

Unfortunately no help for the receding hairline, but I can style it to look pretty good for an "old lady".

Dayle
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on July 19, 2020, 05:50:46 am
My wig is Jon Renau.  It was worth the money.

Hey Madeleine, since this post, I splurged and picked up another Jon Renau wig, and I now definitely agree.  I'm really impressed with it (this colour is a near-perfect match....REALLY good for a synthetic fibre).
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Ellie_Arroway on July 19, 2020, 07:11:30 am
I'm at stage 7 Norwood scale and type VII Hamilton classification. I have a small amount of growth on the scalp. I believe it's been like that for around 20 years.

I've just started taking Finasteride for it, though I realistically don't expect any significant level of improvement.

I have a lot of cheap wigs from Amazon, and I do like them. I get to change my hairstyle whenever I please; I love that! Quality is variable; some are really nice and some are not so nice.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: TSL_NB on July 19, 2020, 08:06:41 am
I'm at stage 7 Norwood scale and type VII Hamilton classification. I have a small amount of growth on the scalp. I believe it's been like that for around 20 years.

I've just started taking Finasteride for it, though I realistically don't expect any significant level of improvement.

I have a lot of cheap wigs from Amazon, and I do like them. I get to change my hairstyle whenever I please; I love that! Quality is variable; some are really nice and some are not so nice.

I had the same experience with Amazon.  One of the wigs I purchased was very impressive, whereas the other one was absolute rubbish.

I initially didn't want to spend extra money on a hair system, but I'm glad I picked up the Renau one; it made a world of difference.
Title: Re: Hair loss solutions?
Post by: Sarah-Red on August 05, 2020, 09:39:06 am
I need help with my hair. It's one of the sources of annoyance and misery. I was hoping being on hormones would significantly help, but I've been almost a year on hrt and there's been a little growth but it's so thin and light that it doesn't show. At this rate even with many years I don't know if it'd show much. I'm still trying to keep open, but I really want a full head of hair.

I can't afford a hair transplant. How much are the less costly ones?
I've been using all sorts of hair products and oils that are supposed to be good for hair growth and had great reviews, and it might've helped a little, I don't know. I had hair growth shampoo and conditioner before i started hrt and it didn't seem to help at all, and the chemicals only seemed to make me lose more hair, so I stopped washing my hair with harsh chemicals entirely. Still, whenever I do wash my hair with my mild shampoo, it seems to make my little hairs look even thinner that sometimes I can't see them.

I'm kinda of desperate about it, I don't want to wear something on my head all the time, and I'm not ready to try wearing wigs.

There's one more thing in store I want to try in the next months, but anyway I wanted to post and possibly get help one way or another regarding this.