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Cindy

FFS in Australia
« on: February 04, 2016, 12:05:56 am »
Someone posted a while back about finding FFS surgeons in Aus. I said at the time I would enquire. I have (finally) had this reply from Andrew Ives.

HI Cindy


There are several surgeons i know in australia that are doing FFS, me included (!!!), but i don't do any 'bone work'.

Also, Ian Carlisle in Melbourne, and a surgeon Patrick Tansley who works in Melbourne and Brisbane

Hope to catch up soon

Andy

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 04:02:57 am »
Hi Cindy,
I think that might have been me. Nonetheless I have been VERY interested in finding out about FFS in Australia and I have started a couple of threads about FFS in Oz and I thank you very much for this info. But it now appears that I will have to get to Spain and Dr Capitan for FFS because of my surgical desires.

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 04:03:05 am »
Thank you Cindy

This is good to know. Is Dr Ives the only one who doesn't do "bone work" or does this apply to all of them?


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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 04:09:45 am »
Thank you Cindy

This is good to know. Is Dr Ives the only one who doesn't do "bone work" or does this apply to all of them?


I know Dr Ives does face lifts etc, I have friends who have been to him for that.

I presume his comment on the orher surgeons meant they do bone work. You are in Australia - ask them!

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 06:08:14 am »
How's Tansley with MTF Breast Augmentation? Does he work with Daniel Fleming?

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2019, 10:29:51 pm »
Dr Patrick Tansley who works in Melbourne and Brisbane


Had a consult with Dr Tansley and Dr Seneviratne yesterday regarding FFS. Really looked forward to it after seeing Dr Sadeghi a few weeks ago.

The consult yesterday left me feeling a little empty and feeling that I had to justify my transitioning, they were very thorough and seemed pleasant.  I had a referral from my Endo and they had full access to my Drs and new prior that I was a Transgender Women.
I’m not too sure I feel confident in their approach to MTF, especially to how many procedures they had already carried out on Trans ladies regarding facial feminisation. It almost felt that I was their homework but again they were very thorough.

Regards top work they have a very good reputation regarding this but again not sure with the transgender community, you will have to do some research. Consult fee is not cheap but not as expensive as Dr Ingram.

My consult with Dr Sadeghi was the complete opposite, very warm and realistic with what can and can’t be achieved, regarding my expectations. Very thorough, very exact in his costings. Infact I have seen him a second time and he did not charge for the consult! If I want to move forward he explained that he will expect a third and final consultation where he will confirm exactly how he believes the procedures will be carried out and fine details.

I really connected with him. I think this is one of the most important aspects; is this person someone that you trust?

Not too sure if this is who I will go with as I am seeking a third Dr, this will give me a good idea to my final decision regarding FFS.

Non of the above Dr's do bone work. This is something I am not interested in.
Warm Regards Michelle

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2020, 03:32:34 am »
This seems like a slow-moving thread! 
However I thought that it might be worth mentioning that I have an appointment with Dr Alan Breidahl in Melbourne in a couple of weeks.  My GP and I were pointed in his direction by staff at De Ives' office and Dr Breidahl's receptionist said that he has a specialty in FFS, including bone work.

I'll post an update once I've seen him.

Cheers,
-Kenna

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 10:49:46 pm »
Hi Kenna,

Really interested in what he say regarding soft tissue... What is his consultation prices?

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2020, 05:49:44 am »
Hi Michelle,
His price for an initial consultation is $185, which I had to pay to secure the appointment.
The paperwork he's sent me adds that an initial consultation resulting in scheduling surgery is $585 (or $335 for pensioners).  He then goes on to say that a follow-up consultation is $99 or $499 if it results in scheduling surgery (or $249 for pensioners).

He mentions that a Medicare rebate may be possible for the $185 and $99 appointments, which I expect that I will be able claim as, at the very least, I have a medically justified need for an upper blepharoplasty independent of facial feminisation, although it will obviously form a part of the final surgery. I'll need to get a referral from my GP, with whom I have an appointment a couple of days before his.

His website doesn't explicitly mention Facial Feminisation but does mention a number of cosmetic soft and hard tissue procedures that are components of it.  He includes a pretty detailed CV on his website including participating in surgical missions to South East Asia "performing life-changing cranio-facial surgeries".  Am I allowed to post the link to his site?  https://www.melbourneplasticsurgery.com.au/

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-Kenna

PS  It was good to finally meet Allie yesterday!

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 07:59:57 am »
I had my appointment with Mr Alan Breidahl (surgeons use Mr instead of Dr.  I think it goes back to when surgeons were barbers rather than doctors.)  I was quite impressed.   :)

I've had proposals from the Facial Team in Spain and Dr Chetawut in Thailand. 

The Facial Team wanted to do my forehead, including brow lift, upper blepharoplasty and lip lift but recommended I get a lower face and neck lift locally, although they were willing to bring in a local (to them) plastic surgeon to do this in the same surgical session.  They didn't think my nose, jaw or chin needed any bone work.

Dr Chetawut proposed doing the full list of FFS procedures (other than a tracheal shave, which I don't need), including forehead, brow, upper & lower blepharoplasty, rhinoplasty, chin, jaw, lip, face and neck lift, in a single surgery.  He uses a titanium plate and bone paste over the reduced frontal sinus as opposed to the reshaped bone held in place with screws that the Facial Team utilise.

Mr Breidahl is a plastic and craniofacial surgeon who proposed very similar work on my forehead to the Facial Team but uses thin titanium mesh to secure the reshaped bone plate on the reduced frontal sinus.  He proposed including the brow lift, upper and lower blepharoplasty, and lip lift in addition to full face and neck lift, demonstrating much of it by manipulating the soft tissue of my face, which also made clear that my chin will need a little bone work as well.  While my nose is not hideous, its not particularly feminine either, and he proposed to reshape this as well.  More significantly I have a significantly deviated septum, to the extent that I'm not sure I could survive if I could only breath through my left nostril.  Fixing this, as well as the upper blepharoplasty might even attract insurance subsidies.  But he was very firm about not doing my nose and forehead in the one surgery, saying that each is structurally dependent on the other and the risk of things falling apart if they are both structurally modified at the same time was too high for him be comfortable.  He proposed a 6 week gap between surgeries, but in the second surgery (on my nose) there would also be scope to get a breast augmentation as well, probably by a colleague of his who does more transgender BA's than him.

Overall I felt very comfortable with him.  The big question is what it will cost!  He said that he will get his quote to me in a couple of weeks.  He did mention that the first surgery would take about 7 hours, so I'm sure it won't be cheap.

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-Kenna

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2020, 01:10:28 am »
Wow KennaL,

That's interesting especially the information regarding the separation of time on the two areas, forehead and nose this makes sense.

I am sure that the Facial team suggest at least 6 months between any bone work and soft tissue for healing, but to have so much work and the BA in one hit that’s really good for seven hrs.

Dr Scott Ingram has quoted eight to eight and a half hrs for Upper and Lower Blepharoplastics, Lateral Canthoplasty, face and neck lift plus full laser resurfacing. He has also quoted for Endoscopic Brow lift which the other Dr's did not suggest, but looking at gfs work by Rossi I am not too sure I want this (not impressed).

Just goes too show how different options are available depending on the Dr, Mr!

Hugs xx

Warm Regards Michelle

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 04:39:30 am »
So I'm waiting for you ladies to try these surgeons so I can decide who and what to get done!! And I'm not getting any younger, so the pressure is on!! ;)

Hugs,

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2020, 05:43:20 am »
My current thinking about timing of surgery, which hopefully will not be upset by the virus, is to retire at the end of this year then get the FFS early in the new year.  My original goal was to get as much work done in as few surgeries as possible in January but the process has been significantly amended by Alan Breidahl separating the nose and forehead surgery and then even more so by Andy Ives.  While Alan Breidahl was willing to work with Andy Ives to do a BA at the same time as my rhinoplasty but Andy was most reluctant to do a BA at the same time as what he described as any "dirty" surgery.  This meant anything involving the nose, sinus or genitals, all of which carry lots of bacteria which can easily get into the blood stream during surgery and any bacteria reaching implants drastically increases the risk of later complications. 

It looks as though my surgery journey might be much longer than I had hoped for!

-Hugs
 Kenna

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2020, 10:26:31 am »
My current thinking about timing of surgery, which hopefully will not be upset by the virus, is to retire at the end of this year then get the FFS early in the new year.  My original goal was to get as much work done in as few surgeries as possible in January but the process has been significantly amended by Alan Breidahl separating the nose and forehead surgery and then even more so by Andy Ives.  While Alan Breidahl was willing to work with Andy Ives to do a BA at the same time as my rhinoplasty but Andy was most reluctant to do a BA at the same time as what he described as any "dirty" surgery.  This meant anything involving the nose, sinus or genitals, all of which carry lots of bacteria which can easily get into the blood stream during surgery and any bacteria reaching implants drastically increases the risk of later complications. 

It looks as though my surgery journey might be much longer than I had hoped for!

-Hugs
 Kenna
Do you feel you really need BA? - have the hormone fairies not delivered? 


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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 09:07:16 pm »
Hi Pammie,
The hormone faeries have definitely delivered a little bit, but not much.  I started hormones in June/July last year and first noticed slight physical changes in late September and my breast gradually grew until late December, then nothing.  While I've noticed the change and enjoy the feeling so far, I also see plenty of men who have more than me, and each time I notice a guy with bigger pecks or fatty breasts my dysphoria gets stirred along.  So yes, a BA is definitely on the cards.
-Kenna

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2020, 09:01:27 pm »
Do you feel you really need BA? - have the hormone fairies not delivered? 


Yes strong believer in waiting as long as three or so years for full development.

That's the last thing I want but it does also depend on how your GD affects you regarding body dysmorphia, mine is face (soft tissue) but i have really sagging jowls and bags. Where as at this stage my genitals does not concern me . I have girlfriends that have had their Breast surgery after as little as one year and are eager to get GRS as soon a legally permitting, so really an individual thing and how one looks at these features personally.

Warm Regards Michelle

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2020, 09:02:41 pm »
So I'm waiting for you ladies to try these surgeons so I can decide who and what to get done!! And I'm not getting any younger, so the pressure is on!! ;)


Hi Allie,

Yes Covid-19 has a lot to answer for (China). Stay safe x
Warm Regards Michelle

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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2020, 02:01:27 am »
Yes Michelle,
My face, both hard and soft tissue, is also my major visible concern and I was wondering if a BA could be combined with one of those surgeries.   

However an even higher priority is an orchiectomy and when I was speaking to a plastic surgeon (who does both GCS and transgender BA's ) about this, the discussion extended to the planned work on my face and my hope to include a BA with this.  As I've mentioned before, he would very much like to keep the BA separate from any genital, nasal or sinus surgeries, but when I mentioned at least 18 months on hormones before commencing on my facial and BA surgeries his reaction was quite positive.

 Hugs,
-Kenna


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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2020, 03:38:58 pm »
Hi Allie,

Yes Covid-19 has a lot to answer for (China). Stay safe x
Michelle, if I may say so, having looked at your avatar you look fantastic and very feminine x


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Re: FFS in Australia
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2020, 06:59:48 pm »
agreed..

my FFS is with the facialteam and like its postponed.. i am so nervous.. its all paid for, a once in a life time.. what do i do in worst case.. all i do is cry at night and the morning where my son cant see me..i am holding it together but barely...sob..
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