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vaginal hair growth after SRS with Preecha Aesthetic Institute (PAI) thailand

Started by SophiaH1993, January 26, 2017, 05:46:29 AM

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SophiaH1993

Hello everyone,

I am considering going to PAI in thailand for my srs surgery. However, I am a bit afraid about hair growth inside the vagina after surgery.

I have had e-mail contact with Peera and he told me that hair removal is not necessary because of scraping during surgery, but he recommended at least 2 elektrolysis sessions. Furthermore, he showed me a diagram showing that only a strip at the perineum should be cleared.

In my understanding, hairs around the base and shaft should also be cleared with the penis inversion technique. Also, since I will have the additional skin graft, I think the area where the graft is coming from should also be cleared.

However, Peera does not seem to understand my questions regarding this, and everytime I just get an unclear answer.

I was wondering if there are people who went to PAI who could tell me something about this topic? Is the follicle scraping good enough on it's own?

Regards,
Sophia
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kat69

I've done some research on this and scraping is the least effective method of hair removal.  I,haven't gone through it myself but i am seriously considering getting preemptive removal done through a combo of laser and electrolysis because I have both dark and grey hairs. 

It's safer to get them removed before surgery because it becomes extremely difficult if you end up with hair growth inside your new vagina. 
Therapy - December 2015
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MissGendered

Quote from: kat69 on January 26, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
I've done some research on this and scraping is the least effective method of hair removal.  I,haven't gone through it myself but i am seriously considering getting preemptive removal done through a combo of laser and electrolysis because I have both dark and grey hairs. 

It's safer to get them removed before surgery because it becomes extremely difficult if you end up with hair growth inside your new vagina.

I have to respectfully contradict your 'research' with my real-life experience. The internet is full of misinformation, so let me tell you what I know to be true, first-hand..

I had surgery with Brassard, and he does not want any electro prior to surgery. He scrapes and uses cautery. I had 18 hairs growing deep inside post-op, and they were easy to remove. Basically just roll on your side, spread your legs, wet your thumb and forefinger, reach in, pinch them close to the skin, and pull them out. The follicles are weak, and they come out without pain. I did this 12-15 times, it takes about 2 minutes each time, and now I am down to two very slow growers.

In my opinion, the added expense and pain of electro alone were reasons to go with Brassard, I would have needed at least 40 hours of zapping at $60 an hour to clear that area...

Missy
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R R H

As a point of interest for those under the NHS, electrolysis is offered at an unlimited funding rate for hair growth down below.

Sorry, doesn't help re. PAI girls I know.
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Susan

The only spot they cannot do much about is the area between the vaginal opening and the anus, the rest is scraped clean. If you get hair growth there you can do laser or electro or both.

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Lady_Oracle

Thats my biggest concern even though I don't have as much hair in that area when prehrt its still significant enough to warrant some form of hair removal. The whole criticism of not getting hair removal at all due to the surgeons orders should just be case by case. Since not all of us are of the same ethnic background like having blondish to light hairs and light hair growth overall. Mine is still incredibly dense despite being on hrt now for close to 5 years and having a low t count. I do understand that it takes years to truly remove hair permanently but I wont be having surgery at least for another 4-5 years so in that time I'll take care of my problem areas.
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KayXo

Quote from: MissGendered on January 26, 2017, 08:19:06 PMI had surgery with Brassard, and he does not want any electro prior to surgery. He scrapes and uses cautery. I had 18 hairs growing deep inside post-op, and they were easy to remove. Basically just roll on your side, spread your legs, wet your thumb and forefinger, reach in, pinch them close to the skin, and pull them out. The follicles are weak, and they come out without pain. I did this 12-15 times, it takes about 2 minutes each time, and now I am down to two very slow growers

I also had surgery with Brassard in 2005. I plucked the hairs in much the same way as you did for several years without much improvement although I concur that the process is painless. Now, plucking is more difficult as I have long nails. In the last year, I have noticed there are less hairs inside my vagina so I'm hopeful that soon, they will all fade on their own and with a little help from my fingers but had I had the chance to go back and redo things, I would have done electro. The added cost and pain would have been worthwhile, in my opinion.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 11:59:06 AM


I also had surgery with Brassard in 2005. I plucked the hairs in much the same way as you did for several years without much improvement although I concur that the process is painless. Now, plucking is more difficult as I have long nails. In the last year, I have noticed there are less hairs inside my vagina so I'm hopeful that soon, they will all fade on their own and with a little help from my fingers but had I had the chance to go back and redo things, I would have done electro. The added cost and pain would have been worthwhile, in my opinion.

My surgery was in 2015, so a decade later, in which time, I would like to believe, his technique improved quite a bit, as I haven't heard of recent post-ops with any significant hair issues. Of course, I don't have any statistics to back my belief, but I did research the best I could before my surgery. What I found were several cases like yours, from a long time ago, but no similar cases within the last five years.

I am sorry you have a continuing issue. As somebody pointed out to me earlier, different ethnic groups may have different issues with hair, and being very blonde, perhaps I am at least risk, I dunno. But I do know that, for me, I only had two choices for surgeons with enough intersex vaginal reconstruction experience to choose from, and both of them use the scraping method, which was a HUGE relief to me, since the idea of even a single zap down there sends me into a conniption fit, lol. Supporn was the other surgeon, but I liked Brassard's reputation for retaining better sensation and his 'look'. Plus he was in driving distance, not on the other side of the planet, and he had a great recovery residence, and didn't require as much dilation etc...

Again, sorry about the continued plucking, I would be bummed out, too.

Missy
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KayXo

Quote from: MissGendered on February 01, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
My surgery was in 2015, so a decade later, in which time, I would like to believe, his technique improved quite a bit, as I haven't heard of recent post-ops with any significant hair issues. Of course, I don't have any statistics to back my belief, but I did research the best I could before my surgery. What I found were several cases like yours, from a long time ago, but no similar cases within the last five years.

I have, from two women who had their surgeries in 2016 (or 2015?) with him. In a French speaking forum where most of the women are from Quebec.

QuoteI am sorry you have a continuing issue. As somebody pointed out to me earlier, different ethnic groups may have different issues with hair, and being very blonde, perhaps I am at least risk, I dunno.

My skin is quite light, my eyes are blue-green and my natural hair color is medium brown. Both my parents have blue and green eyes. My dad's skin is even lighter than mine.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 05:44:03 PM
I have, from two women who had their surgeries in 2016 (or 2015?) with him. In a French speaking forum where most of the women are from Quebec.

My skin is quite light, my eyes are blue-green and my natural hair color is medium brown. Both my parents have blue and green eyes. My dad's skin is even lighter than mine.

Yeah, that's a shame, but still, two out of over 200 surgeries a year is a pretty good average, I think..

My family is all blue-eyed blondes. I am a very light ash blonde, so about a shade or two lighter than what you describe. There haven't been any green eyes in my family for at least 4 generations, if ever. Silly xenophobes, lol! Yeah, all my forbears summered near the North Sea, mostly on the north side, ha ha. Ain't no sunshine in those parts, nope..

Missy

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KayXo

Quote from: MissGendered on February 01, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
Ain't no sunshine in those parts, nope.

"Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
It's not warm when she's away
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
And she's always gone too long
Anytime she goes away"

Love that song! Bill Withers. :)
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 06:11:59 PM
"Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
It's not warm when she's away
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
And she's always gone too long
Anytime she goes away"

Love that song! Bill Withers. :)

Lol, you caught my reference, yay! Yeah, such a great, timeless tune! :-)
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