Topic: MTF pregnancy

[Briah]

One of the aspects of life that has convinced me that I am transgender is my jealousy around pregnancy.  I always wanted a vagina and I wanted to be pregnant.  As a chronologically enhanced individual I would not undertake a pregnancy even if I could, it is time to retire, not start a new family.

In another post I wrote about the peritoneal pull through technique of creating a neo-vagina for trans women.  I have wondered about a lab created vagina using 3D printing.  I knew that there had been work around 3D printing an esophogus.  Apparently that has also been done for a vagina.  The 3D printer creates a “Streachy” matrix that cells can grow in and the result is implanted.  This may be a possibity for us trans women in the not too distant future. 

I also ran across an updated page on Renee Reyes site about uterine transplants and the production of a new uterus.  Pregnancy may eventually be possible or may have already happened.

There is of course a lot to work out but some of these ideas offer us some hope.  I see the 3D printed vagina as a real possibility as it generates the muscle and ability to accommodate of a completely natal vagina. 

[xFreya]

The fact testicular castration causes lack of testerone and the increase of estrogine  that increases breast tissue could the nipples be connected to milk ducts if milk could actually be produced?

Actually a trans woman can lactate. Some even breastfeed. I think it requires progesterone use and some other steps. I remember reading about it.

For pregnancy there are a lot of difficulties but maybe it can happen in the future. Probably not too soon though.

[pretty pauline]

Just saw this thread, the heading grab my attention thinking I was going to discover something new, but it's not happening and won't happen in my lifetime
I have a vagina and I have a husband that uses it and enjoys it, but he can never impregnate me, it's one thing in my life I'II never experience as a woman.

Actually a trans woman can lactate. Some even breastfeed. .

Means absolutely nothing, I'd love my husband to be able to impregnate me, then the lactate can come afterwards, useless without been pregnant.

[xFreya]

Just saw this thread, the heading grab my attention thinking I was going to discover something new, but it's not happening and won't happen in my lifetime
I have a vagina and I have a husband that uses it and enjoys it, but he can never impregnate me, it's one thing in my life I'II never experience as a woman.Means absolutely nothing, I'd love my husband to be able to impregnate me, then the lactate can come afterwards, useless without been pregnant.

Sorry it doesn't help in your case.  In the article I read it was a lesbian couple, one of them trans. She stops HRT for a while and they have a kid, and they both breastfeed. I thought it was nice.

[Britt116]

Lactating isn't a big issue at all considering the fact that MEN CAN LACTATE TOO. Surprising but true. Check it out http://mentalfloss.com/article/61894/can-men-lactate

[Roll]

I think that we are a point with recent medical and general technological advancements that we aren't too far off from this from that medical-technological perspective. However, there is big a difference between being close to it from a technology perspective and it actually becoming reality. Unfortunately, the reality is there are a few key things that would severely limit any progress made in this area. First would be simple funding for research. It's there for cis women with certain conditions (I believe there has been some trials in India for partial implants?), but there is a steep hill to climb from that to implants for trans women (ie: the same complications for cis women plus a host of new ones). However the biggest stumbling block will probably come when we run into perhaps the trickiest issue: ethical concerns (some legitimate, some not but that will be raised regardless). Picture every argument you've ever heard against being transgender, then add in concerns with organ cloning, resource priority (the #1 problem we face worldwide today in healthcare is far too few resources for far too many people, even I find it questionable for a surgeon to spend time on uterine implants as opposed to a heart transplant), concerns about the necessary test cases by their nature involving actual human fetuses and infants, and pretty much anything else you can imagine, most arguments being stacked solidly against this until even more advancements render those arguments a moot point.

Having said that, I would give anything for this. Many of my childhood fantasies involved being pregnant. Also, I actually do believe this will be something I see within my lifetime (I'm 35), but it will come far too late for my own usage regardless. 

[Confuseddude]

Saw this topic and just thought I would throw in my experience.  This is definitely one of the things that convinced me of being trans.  I originally thought I had a fetish surrounding pregnancy and maybe I still have one I don't know but the aspect if being trans revealed to me I didn't just find pregnant woman attractive but I was just very jealous.  I'm not sure now where I stand just that I'm jealous of woman especially pregnant woman.  I think to some degree it's an unhealthy obsession so I try and not dwell on it too much.  I would though be pregnant in a heartbeat if that was a feasible option.  I think that will be a while if ever.

[Julia1996]

Not being able to have kids is something that bothers me too. It just reminds me I'm not a genetic female. I would never want children but I want the ability to have them because it's part of being female. My dad tells me I might change my mind about wanting kids when I get older but I doubt it. I did babysitting twice and that was enough for me to know I don't want kids! One was a 6 month old. He cried no matter what I did. I was at the point of putting him in the freezer so I wouldn't hear his crying. ( kidding of course)  then when I was changing his diaper he peed all over me and the changing table. Ewww doesn't fully cover that. The second time was a 2 year old. He was into everything and I had to chase him all night to make sure he wasn't doing anything dangerous. I finally got him to watch TV and even though he was supposed to be housebroken he did a big load in his pants. I had to give him a bath and wash out his clothes. Again, Ewww. I give parents a lot of Credit.  I don't know how they stay sane! I will stick to dogs.

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The ethical/morals:

Obviously from a religious viewpoint but generally?

Resource allocation as I mentioned is the big one. Resources are becoming only more scarce, and unless/until there is significant advancement that invalidates resource issues, you will see numerous changes in the medical arena in the coming years, including the tabling of non-vital issues such as this. (As however much I or others may want it, it isn't exactly a life threatening thing, and even from a dysphoria causing suicide approach is most likely barely on the radar.)

Human experimentation without consent in early trials is also a real concern. Even if you assume a fetus is not human until late term, at one point it will be human (as this would be setting aside any consideration of abortion or fetal stem cell type discussions, using only the least generous standard for what constitutes human life). Think about it like this: Pregnancy requires numerous hormones to function properly without causing damage to the fetus or risking its life outright. There are countless scenarios that hormone delivery may be inconsistent, interrupted, or so forth, creating a potentially chaotic environment for the development of the child. And that is just the hormone issue, who really knows exactly how a transplanted womb will perform to begin with.

Even with consent, any decent surgeon is going to be hard to convince to perform this surgery until everything else aligns and the procedure has become standard for cis-women born with uterine issues. Above all do no harm, and above even that don't get sued. Early partakers will face serious complications literally rearranging their organs to make room for a fairly large one--that's a huge deal.

I do believe that these are all issues that can be resolved, they will just take a while. (Well, except for maybe the resource issue. But if that isn't solved, we are all doomed anyway so it is a moot point.)

[Roll]

he was supposed to be housebroken he did a big load in his pants.

I think you mean potty trained.

Honestly, the peeing and pooping thing is something everyone surprises themselves with and finds they can get over surprisingly quickly. Parents, doctors and nurses, baby sitters and nannies, etc. all have the exact same initial response, but even just the most casual experience and it turns into a "meh, whatever" thing. (Which is not to say it becomes fun, it just stops being a big issue.)

[Julia1996]

I think you mean potty trained.

Honestly, the peeing and pooping thing is something everyone surprises themselves with and finds they can get over surprisingly quickly. Parents, doctors and nurses, baby sitters and nannies, etc. all have the exact same initial response, but even just the most casual experience and it turns into a "meh, whatever" thing. (Which is not to say it becomes fun, it just stops being a big issue.)

I'm sure you're right. I just found it gross. I guess if I had to do it all the time it wouldn't bother me. I realize it's not the same as a child but it totally doesn't bother me to clean up my dogs pop, pee, vomit or to taking something out of her mouth that she shouldn't have because she's mine. Interestingly my dad who's dealt with hundreds of diapers, kid vomit and every other gross thing kids do, gets skeezed out by dog vomit. If he sees it it almost makes him Yarf. Lol