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Instead of sex reassignment, how about gender reassignment

Started by espo, May 08, 2011, 04:06:57 PM

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Sabriel Facrin

I don't quite understand Inanna's, and I can't help but assume that my earlier arguements themselves don't hold much water...it's always good to throw more variety into the opposition anyway, right?  Anyway...

Really, the pursuit of transgendered transition is a pursuit of one's own happiness and peace.  Though they go through hell and back, it is the choice of the transgender individual that they desire to cross the perceived fence of gender.  I do not think that someone should be called against their wishes no matter how self-scarring because it is their own life to which they deal with the consequences of.  Likewise people who take up violent sports, dangerous jobs, and so on are never called off from their occupation and choices over the level of certain damage and present risk that occurs with the said jobs.  Please understand that I am refering to the calling that ultimately lies behind it, and it should be valid to permit any kind of calling one's soul yearns for unless if it is destructive towards others.
If there are problems with the calling, then the problems are the primitive and/or minimal supports.
Just my two cents.

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I would like to also remark that it's wary to make practicality arguments.  The base argument is hypothetical in the first place. XD It's easily possible that a drug product that can percisely alter the portion of brain can have a significant chance of disturbing other parts of the brain, or even body.  Furthermore this kind of drug might turn out to be expensive. (either from resources or more likely complexity of design)  As earlier said, as well, if research effectively works at this, people would be wiling to use that medical breakthrough as an inertia in their wishes to produce sexuality-based 'fixes' of a similar design... just...really, a mental altering drug is more dangerous being successful than a failure. :\
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Sephirah

I'm not sure it would be as simple as flicking a switch in someone's head anyway. What about the social interactions a person has built up as a result of their former self-identity, the relationships they've formed... wouldn't you also have to re-assign all their friends and relatives to accept the person's new view of themselves? How about their view of the world based on the way they've experienced it right up to that point... the discrimination or acceptance... and feelings towards that, the friends they've made, things they've done... do all those have to be re-written too? Juliet has a point, there is more to someone than their gender, and that's precisely why such a mental reassignment would throw up more problems than it would ever solve. I suspect it would replace physical dysphoria with social, mental and perceptual dysphoria instead.

Suppose you could mentally change someone's gender... you can't unlive their life to that point. They may be happy with their body, but maybe the rest of their life is thrown out of kilter and that ends up being the only thing they're happy with.
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Sabriel Facrin

Almost for the sake of arguement, trashing your past can debatably be up for trashing so-long as you can live the remainder of your life towards personal peace and joy.  This is a situation whether you're transitioning or you somehow 'cure' your 'mental condition'. (used very loosely and sarcastically, really)
Really though, think about it.  Technically you did live your pre-transition gender, and attempted to take it into your mind as well.  Of course it didn't work out, but you're putting your past life through a shredder and collecting what's left on some aspects, especially when it comes to legal and record circles of the subject.  How much can you say that de-transgendering your identity would be different?  You are dealing with the same kind of situation of gender-contradiction, it's just now about your behavior and mentality rather than your physical form and instincts ---and like transitioning your body, transitioning your mind would be a matter of by-the-end-of-it putting it behind yourself.

Of course I do believe it would be a traumatic culture shock type effect to shift gender, but I'm pretending I don't believe that at the moment. XD
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Inanna

Here's an interesting alternative - instead of a pill that completely erases/replaces your gender identity, what if a pill only added the gender identity that matched your body without losing your original self?  I personally still wouldn't take it.  But for those that did, they could at least try to salvage their old sense of self and integrate that into the new person.
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Taka

i still think the real problem is society. my anxiety was caused by a fear of people refusing to even try to understand wth is going on inside my head. after i came here i realized i'm perfectly fine as i am, something which made me happier than i've been in ages. even if my actual body doesn't match the mental image i have of it, this doesn't really matter much for me, but only for people who have expectancies of a persons genitals matching the rest of their appearance and behavior.

other people may think i should change my gender identity or alter my body to match, but why would i let other people decide what's best for me? i don't even have gid, for i don't experience any dysphoria related to my sex or gender or think that they are out of order in any way. i'm only occasionally confused for a sec when i'm reminded what i look like to others, or remember those parts aren't there because i never had them in the first place. the dysphoria i had before was really my fear of not being accepted as the one i see myself as rather than whatever my body looks like. so why change anything just to please society? if i decide to change something it will only be to make myself feel more comfortable, be it my sex or my gender, and right now i don't feel like changing either
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