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Parenting as a gay FTM

Started by MRH, June 06, 2011, 06:06:08 PM

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MRH

One thing that causes issues between me and my partner is the subject of parenting. He doesn't want to have kids with me if I become a man as for him he thinks it will be hard for the kids and they will get bullied. This is also my worry but I know that I'm not gonna stay a woman just so a married life with kids is easier. My question is how would people go about parenting children as a gay FTM? We'd be able to have our own kids because of my eggs so we would be able to via a surrogate mother have our own biological kids. As my partner is not gay he really struggles with the idea of same sex parenting. What would you tell the children? Would you be honest with them and say that men can be together and women can be together or would this just confuse them at a young age? Also eventually my kids would learn that its not possible for two men to biologically have kids and they may question if they are adopted so would I tell them that I used to be a woman and that they are my real kids? I'm really worried about how the future will be for my kids if I ever have them.
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Robert Scott

It once was a problem but now I think your kids will be totally fine.

My wife and I raised our 2 kids in Oklahoma as a lesbian couple -- they did just fine --- We have lots of friends in OK who are raising kids in a same sex relationship.  Several famous gay men are raising kids together -- B.D. Wong (Law & Order), the guy on How I meet your Mother & the guy off Dr. Quinn medicine woman.

In fact, studies have shown kids brought up in same sex marriage homes actually are better adjusted & have better empathy skills. 
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Miniar

Ah, ye olde "confusing the children" bit....

See, here's the thing.
Kids really don't care about this stuff. Tell 'em that some guys prefer to be with other guys and some girls prefer to be with other girls and they're all "ok". Tell 'em that sometimes a person knows that they're a guy even if they were born with a girls' body and sometimes these guys want to fix it so their bodies aren't girls bodies anymore and they may have questions but they're generally okay with that too.

It's adults that have issues, not kids.

I have a daughter from a previous relationship and I'm raising her with my husband.
I'm still her "mom" since I'm the only mom she'll ever have, but her mom's a boy, and that's okay with her.
She tells her friends that are over "This is my mom, his name is Hans" and they just go "ok" and that's that.

We are a perfectly normal family.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Nero

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Sean

Kids are fine if you provide consistent and truthful age-appropriate information to them. How much information to share with them about their own origins is something lots of parents navigate now, with adoption, surrogacy, and blended family situations becoming so much more prevalent. In terms of telling your kids that two men or two women can be together, that's something that many parents are teaching their kids now, even if they are a heterosexual couple, because they want the kids to know that gay people are just like everyone else and it's ok if the kids themselves are gay.

There are better and worse places to be a same-sex couple with children, particularly two men raising a child (as opposed to two women), but that's not really too difficult a task these days - finding a comfortable place to live where you don't have to worry about your kids feeling like the "only" ones being raised in a gay family.

The only caution I'd throw out there is that if your partner has not yet found a comfort zone with how you are viewed in society as a same-sex couple, then you are probably going to make this situation much much more difficult by introducing a child into it. In fact, it sounds unstable. No one should be forced into any labels that they don't identify as, and it makes a lot of sense that your partner is not gay and does not feel himself to be gay. However, at some point, he would need to make peace with the fact that while he may not be gay, the world will see him as being in a gay relationship. Period.

Having kids is a surefire way to call public attention to your relationship in ways that you may not even realize as someone with children. This is particularly true for two men. The "norm" in our society is that when a woman cares for her child, she is parenting, and when a man cares for his child, he is babysitting. When you have kids, strangers approach you to ask questions or make comments. When people see a man caring for his child, they ask the kid, "oh, are you with your daddy? Are you waiting for mommy?"and all sorts of other stuff that is intrusive and presumptuous of a heteronormative standard in which women are primary child-rearers. People do not make the same comments or assumptions when a woman is alone with a child asking about "where is daddy?"

While society is more accepting now of same-sex couples and same-sex parents, the reality is that you are forced into commenting on your family situation, in public, by casual, well-meaning strangers all the time. How you handle those questions and comments will influence how your children view your family. And if your partner is not capable of being seen as one of two gay daddies, then you're going to have some problems.
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Alex37

Quote from: Miniar on June 08, 2011, 07:14:42 AM
She tells her friends that are over "This is my mom, his name is Hans" and they just go "ok" and that's that.

Quote from: Forum Admin on June 08, 2011, 07:25:52 AM
I love that. :)

me too :D
If you're going through hell, keep going.   Winston Churchill
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some ftm guy

Quote from: Miniar on June 08, 2011, 07:14:42 AM
I have a daughter from a previous relationship and I'm raising her with my husband.
I'm still her "mom" since I'm the only mom she'll ever have, but her mom's a boy, and that's okay with her.
She tells her friends that are over "This is my mom, his name is Hans" and they just go "ok" and that's that.

We are a perfectly normal family.

Quote from: Forum Admin on June 08, 2011, 07:25:52 AM
I love that. :)
Quote from: Alex37 on June 15, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
me too :D
me 3  :)
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cynthialee

Well I dont have kids and I am not FTM but I was raised by a lesbian mom when my dad wasnt doing the job.

It wasn't that bad. Ys I did have a few issues with some kids and I did get in one fight with a disrespectful kid over it but all in all it was a non event as far as the majority of my friends and neighbors were concerned.
Gay couples happen. People tend to get over it after a short while. There is always something else to take their attention.

As for telling the kids you are the bio mom. Sure why not. They should know, but I would hold off on that information until the child was old enough to understand the reasons why that information needs to be classified information.

:)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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