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Well howdy f****** do to you!!!

Started by Sevan, June 13, 2011, 08:44:45 PM

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Jaimey

Quote from: Forum Admin on June 14, 2011, 07:42:15 PM
Ah, okay. Sometimes I'm unaware of whether I'm using the wrong terminology or inadvertently being offensive in regard to androgyne (or any other group of which I'm not a part) issues.

Not a part because you're our king.  :D

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Pica Pica

There's no bother with saying the wrong thing, it's continuing saying that thing after that wrongness has been pointed out.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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justmeinoz

When confronted with people like this I have learned to question  them to death, or the truth.
Like a 5 year old-("Why Mum? Why?Why?")  "Why do you say that?" "What do you base that on?", "Have you experienced that yourself?" "Where did you read that?".
Either that or they give up and bugger off!
Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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shelly

While i was trying to find myself, i came across a group of the most pathetic TS's ever ran by a "Queen Bee" who you either agreed with everything it said or you where given the cold shoulder treatment. Now i am not shallow, so i dont have to post 20 or more photos a day on a website so all my clone friends can tell me how wonderfull i look, i dont own 50 pairs of shoes or wear high heels, as i prefer pumps and i hardly ever wear any make-up. It seemed because of this i just got labelled as just being a run of the mill TV, despite the fact that i hate coming across as a male, although i have no wish to become female either.

Over the years i have realise the only person i have to worry about is myself and i no longer care what cross section of gener identity i belong to, however these days i stick to and only comment on Andro sites, as not being TVor TS well i dont expect them to understand me, like i dont understand a small percentage of them.

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ativan

Hard core binaryism is a (much much) smaller percentage of the cross section of humanity than is admitted to. It is easier for them to run with the rest of the flock.
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Kaelin

"Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if somewhere there isn't a chapter of the KKK made up entirely of transgender people."

Wikipedia estimates that there are 5k-8k members, so while there may possibly be enough members to make up a small chapter, it is unlikely they would live close enough together for such an arrangement to make sense.

I've met some TSs in person, and a minority (not a large one, but not trivial) have insisted on the necessity of expressing within at least some gender norms, at least those who identify as men (I don't know how they would react to third/alternate/free genders), and a contingent of them would keep getting the gender wrong.  It would be hard for me to compare these kinds of numbers with the general population, because (1) I don't interact with the general population in the say way (not that I intend to treat people differently, but I'm waiving some of my usual requirements for talking with other people when I'm attending a gender association meeting or the like, and the purpose for gathering is usually a bit different than my other gatherings), and (2) TSs and the general population have different experiences.  However, if I am expressing in a particular gender nonconformist way, I would feel less likely to face violence from random TSs than random people, so at least on some level I wouldn't want to overemphasize the intolerant TS faction -- granted, this is a perception based on some level of prejudice, but I'm inclined to think that even bigoted TSs would generally at least have some sympathy, even if they're getting it wrong.

Like with Pica, I'm not particularly concerned with the words as much as the attitude behind those words.  If you can politely notify a person about your gender, and they'll get it right in the future (with perhaps a flub or two along the way, followed by some humility after being corrected), then I think the person can be good to work with.  If you can reasonably/safely do so, it's a good idea to give someone the benefit of the doubt, because you are always going to be uncertain about their particular circumstances, and it would be preferable to give them the opportunity to prove themselves before casting a strong or specific judgment on them.
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