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'->-bleeped-<-' Is Not Acceptable

Started by Natasha, June 23, 2011, 04:53:29 PM

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kate durcal

Quote from: V M on June 24, 2011, 06:57:48 PM
*Goes to sit in corner*

and eat a few sunflowers until your dispostions gets more sunny   :laugh:

Kate D
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cynthialee

I will not be policed on my language, period. I and I alone have the final say of what I beleive to be insulting. I refuse to hand that power over to anyone.
Just because you say it is an insult does not make it so. It is only insulting if I use it in an insulting fashion.
Oh and for the record....I am an ex convict. I would apreciate it if you didn't equate my past life experiance with being less than or other.
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kate durcal

Quote from: cynthialee on June 24, 2011, 07:22:55 PM
I will not be policed on my language, period. I and I alone have the final say of what I believe to be insulting. I refuse to hand that power over to anyone.
Just because you say it is an insult does not make it so. It is only insulting if I use it in an insulting fashion.
Oh and for the record....I am an ex convict. I would appreciate it if you didn't equate my past life experience with being less than or other.
thanks
:)

Exactly how am I supposed to know that you are an ex-convict? But since you mention, you could vouch fro my assertion that foul language and insulting is more prevalent in jails and among convicts and ex-convicts.

You and I stay apart on this and other issues. You have your opinions and your way of life, mine are different, that is all.  You express your opinions, I do the same.

I do not care if you or anybody is or is not a convict, or anything else. I am not impressed by degrees, monies, or experiences.

I am impressed by people who can accept an apology and who do not second hand other peoples intentions.

Kate D
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SarahM777

Quote from: kate durcal on June 23, 2011, 06:57:01 PM
What image does the "->-bleeped-<-" word evokes on you?

To me it evokes the image of a poorly dress badly behaving TG/TS.

It is use to ridicule, offense, and discriminate. Its use should be punishable by law.

Kate D

It all depends on who is using the term and what it is referring to. In my neck of the woods so to speak it is most often used to refer to automobile or mechanical transmissions and not people.  So does that mean that all the mechanics that work on them now would be subject to fines or jail time because they happen to use the term ->-bleeped-<- instead of transmission?

I think we have to be really careful when words have multiple meanings as we can only define them by the one who does the speaking or writing and in most cases not just by the word itself.  There are some words that only have one meaning and those are very clear as to what is meant.
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Hikari

Not a fan of the word, but ->-bleeped-<-girl15 on youtube is amazing, and I don't hate on her too much for the using the word. It is after all just a word, and intent matters more than anything. Using that word or any other in anger, hate, intolerance and ignorance isn't something I would approve of.

I guess I am more apathetic on the issue, honestly I think I would take "->-bleeped-<-" over "->-bleeped-<-" any day. I don't see the porn industry giving up either term though, so I doubt that they will go away.
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kate durcal

Quote from: Hikari on June 24, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
Not a fan of the word, but ->-bleeped-<-girl15 on youtube is amazing, and I don't hate on her too much for the using the word. It is after all just a word, and intent matters more than anything. Using that word or any other in anger, hate, intolerance and ignorance isn't something I would approve of.

I guess I am more apathetic on the issue, honestly I think I would take "->-bleeped-<-" over "->-bleeped-<-" any day. I don't see the porn industry giving up either term though, so I doubt that they will go away.

I can see your point, and the points made by the other Ladies. Perhaps I reacted to visceral to the topic.

I have been at the receiving end of the "->-bleeped-<-" insults by evil people who sought to humiliate in public with prejudice and premeditation.  They use the infamous "I am just telling like it is." Well they have letter from attorney warning them, and I have a police report on them.

my 2 cents for what ever is worth

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V M

I don't hate everyone who uses the term, it is just not a term that I personally embrace... If others are comfortable with it, no skin off my teeth
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Nero

Quote from: kate durcal on June 24, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
But since you mention, you could vouch fro my assertion that foul language and insulting is more prevalent in jails and among convicts and ex-convicts.



No she can't. Because it's simply not true. I'd say it's equally if not more prevalent among those who've never seen a jail cell. Suburban high schoolers for one.
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michelle

Any word aimed at you with hate, is a bad word.   And any word can be said in a hateful way.   My response to the hateful person and word is,  "Whatever."  And then I let a senior moment wash it away.   There is a lot to say for being a 64 year old Granny ->-bleeped-<-.  Say it rhymes.   "Well, whatever."   Now just was it I was just saying......... >:-)
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Taka

Quote from: kate durcal on June 24, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
Exactly how am I supposed to know that you are an ex-convict? But since you mention, you could vouch fro my assertion that foul language and insulting is more prevalent in jails and among convicts and ex-convicts.
well... here in norway it all depends on latitude. in the south you'd get jailed for one foul word directed at a police officer, in the north you'd have to think up a much juicier insult for the same to happen.
and this only because people in the south never learned how to speak entire long nearly meaningful sentences made up of swear words only
as for insulting i think high school kids are still in the lead even here

Quote from: kate durcal on June 24, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
I have been at the receiving end of the "->-bleeped-<-" insults by evil people who sought to humiliate in public with prejudice and premeditation.  They use the infamous "I am just telling like it is." Well they have letter from attorney warning them, and I have a police report on them.
Kate D
i've been at the receiving end of all kinds of insults since grade school. "->-bleeped-<-" wasn't among them, as i wore the skirts my mom loves to see on me. but still, i've been insulted on the basis of race, religion (yup even "christian" can be an insult around here), parents, interests, hobbies, friends (i don't shun those who are regarded "different"), clothing. well.. pretty much anything you can imagine, and do you think the teachers did anything about it? nope, "there is no bullying in our school"

so what has this done to me? it made me grow some very thick skin. only way you can tick me off now is to insult one of those that i care for, like my daughter, younger siblings, close friends, etc. as for me, no one could hurt me by simply telling me what i am, right? i'm proud of it no matter if the word was used in order to insult me
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nickikim

 I like ->-bleeped-<- alot better than f*ggot, but around here "you`re book smart " is an insult.  ->-bleeped-<- is one persons insult ,and anothers identity, I hate the language police, even calling them the language Nazis is using as a hate word a word that could be another persons self identifier.   The other day , a coworker was telling us about his racing exploits ,when he told us he "blew another ->-bleeped-<- ,in the car." i laughed so hard , i think he ment his transmission failed again, but y`all never know.
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kate durcal

Quote from: Forum Admin on June 24, 2011, 10:48:30 PM
No she can't. Because it's simply not true. I'd say it's equally if not more prevalent among those who've never seen a jail cell. Suburban high schoolers for one.

True! but the highschooler grow up, and most of them change; the convict and ex convicts grow old, some change, but the majority do not.

My point is that the higher your emotionaal IQ, the less like likely the chance  of you using insults to make a point. And if  you know that a word causes pain to fellow human, then logic dictates that you should not use it. Your right are your right as long as you are not trampling somebodies rights (an I am not directing this response to you Mr. Forum administrator man)

Kate D
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JulieC.

I'm going to date myself a little bit here but when I was in high school the redneck at the local gas station use to call me honey and sweetie or ask if he could do anything else for us girls.  And no I wasn't cross dressing...It was just my hippie stage and I had long hair.  It was before long hair on guys became a common thing.  Of course he was doing his best to insult us.  It just goes to show you it's not words...it's intent.  You can be polite and use words of endearment and insult at the very same time. 

I blew a ->-bleeped-<- in my car once too!   

Shoot...I do mean transmission.



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