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Started by Tammy Hope, July 02, 2011, 03:27:35 AM

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Tammy Hope

it's difficult for me to discuss hormones without running afoul of the rules so i will try to be circumspect and therefore likely end up being vague.

While my pathetic financial situation is not changed at all, I did get my NP to agree to prescribe Spiro, but sadly at a low dose appropriate for blood pressure treatment (i was only borderline high) which is only about a quarter of what I understand to be proper for HRT...but I had ordered 100 of those with my tax refund, and those are almost gone now. I've been hoarding the prescription pills and I'll string them out as long as i can but by labor day I'll be back to the low, unhelpful dose (unless something happens to my income).

meanwhile, i found a way to score some E (safe, legal, stuff, no black market...but...unorthodox) but it, too, is at a lower dose than I'd like.

Yes, I know - dangerous and all that. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I can't double up to the "standard" dose of E without running out before the end of the month, I've heard about "cycling" and I wonder if there's any benefit to taking "Dose X" for two weeks, the "Dose X*2" for a week then a week off?

Anyway, I'm kinda down about the idea that when the spiro dosage drops so will the (modest) progress. I'm brainstorming ways to maximize the results from my rather minimal resources.

I've been doing this (with one short break) since March 1 and I've got (after about 11 weeks) some breast tenderness and possibly some marginal development (I know its way to early but I have a lot of fat tissue there so it's tough to be sure but the wife commented the other day that i'd soon not need to pad a bra - and she doesn't know I'm taking anything - so i thing there's SOME change.

But otherwise, I can tell nothing. the one thing i most wanted (besides the obvious) was some emotional development and I'm just not sensing any of that. Perhaps the dose is just too low. I had ONE sort of irrational teary moment during a movie (a scene that shouldn't have provoked it) which was encouraging but otherwise, nothing.

I'd like to have at least had a taste of things to come...


Beyond that, I had a "best of times worst of times" moment the other day. We took the boys to see Transformers Wed. night, and on the way down there she said we needed to talk when we got home about my situation - later, as we were going in the theater i asked my sons to keep in mind that the other guests would see me as female and in order to avoid an ugly bathroom incident, to try to be very discreet about calling me "daddy" where anyone could hear.

she heard this and i swear if she'd have been armed she would have shot me down right there.

So yeah, were we ever gonna talk later!

she didn't, as it turned out, have one of her rages, despite being very angry (more evidence to me that her uncontrolled rages at me are themselves a mental issue and not just simply being angry with me - i saw Wed night and Thursday what being rationally angry and hurt look like and it wasn't the same thing)

the kicker is, what she had wanted to talk about was this: she was going to tell me that as long as i didn't change the name or have any surgery, she would live with the current behavior ...although when I asked her about hormones, she said that was off the table too - but i think I can make the case that until there are breasts she can't deal with, the hormones don't matter.  I told her truthfully, as i have before, that when I can get HRT I will take it and will not seek her approval because i know she won't give it. I told her that i intended to do the name before seeking any more education if I did go through with that but i didn't set an absolute date.

the surgery is a non-issue as long as we have so little money.

BUT the whole "don't call me daddy" think threatened to undermine her willingness to move on the issue.

I'm not sure yet. but I do take it as an encouraging sign that she was wiling to agree to accept a level of transition well beyond what she'd previously been willing to discuss.

i think I can persuade her that the hormones are not an issue until i actually have breasts and if at that point she can't stand them, then we gained that much time.

I think it's 50/50 whether she will accept the idea of a legal name change at some point down the road (though she will never use "Tammy" she might be persuaded that what name other people use doesn't concern her)

Some might say it's foolish and somewhat co-dependent to try to string this out as long as possible, I can only say it's a product of circumstance. I'd love to have been able to just file for divorce and be on my way so she could find some closure but it's simply not that simple here.

all that said, if the weekly rages continue, i may have to go ahead and accept we simply can't come to terms. I never know from one day to the next.


Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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Julie Marie

The reality is before GRS, our bodies are producing T, trying to make us men.  HRT can offset that but usually the dosages are higher than post-GRS.  E can lower T all by itself.  Spiro can help E become more effective.  But until the main source of T is nipped, your body is in a battle with the HRT drugs.

My doc says consistent, every day dosing is VERY important.  He even went so far as to say when I did my weekly shot I should do it around the same time of day.  Messing with dosing is messing with your health.  Too much is still unknown about the effects of HRT on trans people.  Why make yourself a lab rat?

I don't know what to tell you about the financial aspect of all this.  I never really spent a lot on HRT meds.  I found them to be cheap.  One friend was shelling out over $300/mo, more than ten times what I was paying for my meds.  But she was doing everything under the sun, and this was all through her doctor.  When we compared blood tests, I was actually doing a bit better than she.  My doc said many meds she was taking were ineffective.  Can you find someplace in your area that can help? 

Also, check out THInC, or Trans Hormones – Informed Consent. "It's a comprehensive, 3-step program designed to assist those interested in accessing hormones in an efficient, supportive and validating manner."  Here's a LINK to a place in Chicago that has more info. 
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Tammy Hope

QuoteI don't know what to tell you about the financial aspect of all this.

to do it the "right" way involves, at a minimum, paying doctors and labs. the cost of the meds themselves if legally prescribed is less than $10 a month (well, the proper dose of spiro is probably higher than that)

The cost of...online stuff that i can't be specific about is, i think, something like $120 or so for a 3 months supply....not exorbitant but when your only income is $114 a week unemployment and you have a REAL struggle to pay the light bill every month...

But even with informed consent bypassing the therapist, the costs of doing it the proper way is well outside that budget.


I get the thing about the T though - I long every night to find some safe way to dispose of the evil twins...
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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jesse

spiro is on the walmart 4.oo drug list it is cheaper then estrodial which i pay 10.00 for at walgreens for 30 day supply no insurance. email tammy if you want to discuss dosage and some possible options.especially about the lab tests
jessi
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Tammy Hope

My prescription spiro ("blood pressure dose") is indeed $4, as is the estridiol my wife is prescribed (post-hysterectomy) - I have no idea what the higher dose of spiro usually costs. (the legal way)
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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