Hey Del. Most of the people you mentioned, I agree. They give christianity a bad name. Just wondering what you have against Joyce Myer? Other than her asking for money, I find 95% of her teachings to be on the mark. There are times she takes verses out of context, but, for the most part, it seems like she is trying to reach the lost in a language they will understand. Yea, she puts on a big show...All the glitz etc., but with young people today, that's what will get their attention. Enlighten me.