Dont want to offened any ladies but Why are very slutty mTF called prideful?

[tekla]

someone who dresses to look slutty is a slut

One is a fashion choice the other is an ongoing set of behaviors.  The first is easy to change, the second not so much - if you would even want to.

[LilKittyCatZoey]

*lick*

lol love your avatar and dodge your lick! 

[Princess of Hearts]

there are various choices we can make when it comes to presenting ourselves:

1. a hoochie mama
2. a slutty prostitute
3. business like and professional
4. a little bit of class

I say to each their own but we need to be classy

"Business like and professional".   My mother has to dress formally and conservatively all day at work.   This means dark skirt suits or dark formal trousers with a crisp tailor blouse - white or pale pink.    My mother can't wait to get out of this 'uniform' as she calls it.  At the weekend she likes to slouch about the house dressed very casually.   You should try wearing a black pinstripe skirt and jacket with black tights, black shoes and black handbag on a Summer's day like my mother.    I wear shorts and bare legs, though I do sometimes wear 40 denier black opaque tights with my denim shorts.

[Princess of Hearts]

1. a hoochie mama
2. a slutty prostitute
3. business like and professional
4. a little bit of class


Look at those choices.  It seems that according to the author of that pos,t women can be divided into under-dressed shameless flirts, $2.00 prostitutes and the Grand Duchess Lavinia Fergiana Morticia DeVere  Dowager Duchess of Snobland.       Just look about you and see all the different types of women that there are.   You won't see many floosies, nymphomaniacs, stuffy office matrons and Empresses.   You will see young girls and young women just being young.  You are much more likely to see frumpy down-trodden, underpaid, world-weary office drones than your so-called classy lady.  Many women have husbands and children and cannot afford $50.00 pantyhose and $500 shoes, or a $1000 handbag.

[tekla]

there are various choices we can make when it comes to presenting ourselves:

1. a hoochie mama
2. a slutty prostitute
3. business like and professional
4. a little bit of class

Where is 'total slob' on that list?  Where is the ever-fit look of constant workout clothes?  Or the jeans/t-shirt/hoodie look?  Or women in uniform (army, cops, Catholic schoolgirls)?  Seems kind of limited.

[Julie Marie]

Where is the ever-fit look of constant workout clothes?

[tekla]

Well considering what most people look like at that age all I can say is, you go!

[LilKittyCatZoey]

there are various choices we can make when it comes to presenting ourselves:

1. a hoochie mama
2. a slutty prostitute
3. business like and professional
4. a little bit of class

Where is 'total slob' on that list?  Where is the ever-fit look of constant workout clothes?  Or the jeans/t-shirt/hoodie look?  Or women in uniform (army, cops, Catholic schoolgirls)?  Seems kind of limited.

Lol catholic school girls. May i just say i have seen more catholic school girls pass out than anyone from any other stereotype and yay over 200 posts to this thread people your all amazing 

[tekla]

The best thing about Catholic Schoolgirls, even better than the uniforms, or the fact that usually they tend to be at least semi-articulate & well read (and I'm not having any sort of relationship, much less a sexual one with anyone who does not have lots of books in their house), nope, the very best thing about them is that because they grew up Catholic in Catholic School sex will always be dirty to them.  And dirty sex is the best sex you can get for love or money.

[Marta]

This seems to me like the instances when people (mainly feminists) say that dressing slutty, stripping or being a "adult film star" is empowering to women. I dont see any of that as empowering- to me its more like counter productive.  All of that stuff is just more distasteful than anything but slutty women mtf or otherwise are a dime a dozen

[AbraCadabra]

Tekla,
Gotta find some Catholic Schoolgirls! Dirty sex ever sounding so promising. LOL

Unfortunately I ONLY went to a protestant boarding school and yes I know, we only second best, ->-bleeped-<-e! :-)

Still the earlier in transition and the earlier into HRT, the sluttier one feels like to dress. The whole dirty spiel, wiggle your booty in 4" (5"?) heels --- heya, it's sooo nice.
Going shopping like that or to my GP, eh, even we have SOME dress sense early on.
And then, every GG is coming down on you because you look like a hooker or hootchie cootchie mama.

Never got me any ripped net-stocking though --- my loss, I know. Oh hell.

Axelle

[tekla]

And then, every GG is coming down on you because you look like a hooker or hootchie cootchie mama.
Only because their boyfriends are paying more attention to you then they are to them.

[AbraCadabra]

Yeah, I see you found out too, um.

GG jealousy of TG, because we more likely to "hang out of the bus".
Gosh they need to give you 1001 reasons why the dress in rubber clogs, loose jeans and saggy t-shirts.
Sore feet, saggy ass, droopy boobs, bad bra, and in major need of comfort, heehee.

Too funny,
Axelle

[tekla]

I work at a major rock and roll venue in one of Rock and Roll's flagship cities.  It's a city with a huge rave culture and all that goes with that.  It's a city with a huge public above-ground, not underground, pansexual kink culture.  A city that is considered one of the most diverse, liberal, gay, rich, sophisticated, cosmopolitan cities in the world.  Most of the anti-comments on this thread read like hicks from the sticks who saw something on TV once.  If they really knew what all these women who I see constantly were really wearing I'm pretty sure they'd have a heart attack.  And that's the 'nice girls'. 

[AbraCadabra]

Well that's L.A. for you.

Now lets check say Boise ID... and we'd have a better match, or?

When I was wearing my hem line to short for my shrink (normal mini, not really pussy pelmet) he gave me a big freak on.

What you said, I tried to explain (a bit kinder though), and was told to go (in this case Jo'burg Sandton) and find a shrink there. Like ->-bleeped-<- off then already.

Self must also be lacking some major dose of conservatism for the place I stay these days.

Can't always get what you want... um.

Axelle

[Princess of Hearts]

That is Sir Jimmy Saville a well known British Disc Jockey and television presenter.

[Princess of Hearts]

"When I was wearing my hem line to short for my shrink (normal mini, not really pussy pelmet) he gave me a big freak on."


They tell what to wear?!!!    Well that is the medical profession for you and psychiatrists in particular, they treat you as a mental patient until you have proved otherwise.     If you go to a shrink expect to be shrunk.  Go to a doctor and you will be given pills and surgery.  Go to a priest and he will say 'your going to hell unless you bow down before the might of the Catholic Church.'   Call out an electrician and he will say 'haw missis yur whole hoose neeeds rewiring say it does.'

[Princess of Hearts]

"When I was wearing my hem line to short for my shrink (normal mini, not really pussy pelmet) he gave me a big freak on."


To be serious for a moment, psychiatrists that deal with gender issues want to see what sort of a woman you think you are.    Dress like a university first year at 60 and you will be classified as a fetishistic transvestite.   However, if you go all prim and proper, he will write ' patient has unrealistic views of what a woman should be.'    That is why I do my own thing, I don't require anyone's approval - well except my mother's - and I don't scare the horses.

[tekla]

LA?  Oh god no, I live in SF.  No one in the world get to compete with LA in this kind of stuff.  LA is where Brittney Spears can wear a micro-mini and get out of a limo in such a way that we don't just get to find out what color her panties are, we're all (because it's LA it's being photographed for posterity) finding out in detail when the last time she shaved the beaver is and it's looking like it was just a few hours ago.  No where else can compete with LA in this kind of stuff.

[AbraCadabra]

@Tekla, the way you sounded SO spunky, and into that fab environment just meant -- L.A. José ! :-)

So it's SF, 'k...
LA's a big spread, and SF has soul --- or some such, yes?

In my finding, the many times I was there in the late 90s and early 2000, it gave me a more benign pic. Though I stayed mostly out in the valley, Cupertino, Mountain View, Santa Cruz even and such.

Maybe I missed the night live scene?
LA daily life = night live.
Like bring it on honey, and shake your booty. :-)

So, you would have some tuned-in shrinks there I guess (SF) ?

What @Princes is saying though - is SO true.
My type was the "gate-keeper" type, and he felt I wanted to pass through the Pearly Gates to feminity. He is male homosexual, no less, wanting to be St. Peter? OMG?!
I could never shake the idea he'd some issues with females, GG or TG.
An absolute control freak.
Must have offended him with my dress code more then once, like "unrealistic ideas about womanhood"... ->-bleeped-<-!!!!!!!!!
Once I tuned into his expectations I started to pass his gate... "overcoming my obstacles!" him being the obstacle as he pointed out after me questioning: "What obstacles?!"

That's just a reminder how VERY necessary dress code becomes when you need to get something you NEED!

So, don't show your hold-ups honey, down with that hem line. Max 2" heels, AND go LIGHT on the make up, lest interviewing for a place in hooker street.

Life's a bitch --- where did I put that chocolate, dang???!!

Axelle