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Going out on a crazy limb here guys!

Started by MaxAloysius, July 22, 2011, 04:12:58 PM

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MaxAloysius

Okay okay! So I've been wondering about this for ages, and finally decided to look into this a little tonight. Some women can ejaculate right? Well it turns out that this ejaculation isn't urin at all, but comes from the 'Skene's gland' (which has now officially been renamed the female prostate) which feeds into the urethra. The fluid in this gland is much the same as it would be in the male prostate and contains 'biochemical markers of sexual function', whatever that means (but it sounds so promising!).

Some women don't even have this gland, which certainly explains why only some people are capable of 'female ejaculation'. But let's go on a big long hypothetical journey here and think about some things. The way I understand it, the prostate only makes up a part of the fluid to be ejected at orgasm, but it also has some muscles that help with the expulsion of the seminal fluid. So I'm wondering if partnering this with the research into changing the ovaries of mice into testes could get us one step closer to actual reproduction the male way? Especially when you consider that a man (who was capable of 'female ejaculation') who had had lower surgery to get a phallus (micro or larger) with connected urethra would absolutely be capable of 'normal' ejaculation. Would the adition of this 'female' type seminal fluid in any way help support our own sperm production when coupled with male testes?

Personally I feel better just knowing I could actually have a prostate! So with this all in mind I would very respectfully like to ask if anyone in our community is capable of ejaculating, and if so I would VERY much like to know if testosterone had any effect on this. Did it possibly make the gland larger? After taking T has anyone been capable of ejaculation who previously wasn't? Obviously we can't do tests and such on this, since we're not super sciency people (well, most of us anyway!) but if anyone has been capable of ejaculation before and after T, did you notice any changes in the fluid? (Ugh, I know sorry guys, but it's for the greater good!) A change in smell, consistency or anything like that could indicate that the actual fluid itself has changed from the 'female' type to the 'male' type, and that could be a very good thing!

So in conclusion, I'm sorry to have asked a bunch of very intrusive questions, but I'm dying to know if there's anything to this! If our bodies could at some point become capable of supporting semen in the natural male way, then guys, you could be honest to god fathers with real children who have your eyes and their mother's hair!  :o
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malinkibear

I can't, and I'm not yet on T, so no thought there.
But the whole testes/sperm thing, I don't see happening. Society in general would neither accept nor allow it. Not in the next few decades at least. Add onto that the time for the technology to develop, if it ever even becomes possible, I doubt in our lifetimes. Not having biological kids was something I accepted ages ago.
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Darrin Scott

Be reminded that in order to ejaculate you have to be penetrated which is how "females" ejaculate. The "G spot" has to be stimulated. I know not everyone is comfortable with this.





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MaxAloysius

@Solobear: I see what you're saying, but fourty years ago society wouldn't have allowed us to live like we are now either, and things are moving forward at a much faster rate now than they used to. And I'm not saying the technology would be available soon (god, it would be years!) but that doesn't stop me from asking if it's a theoretical possibility.

Personally, I don't really have any need for working sperm, just the thought that I could one day ejaculate is enough for me (hence I'd like to know if T has any effect on the gland itself), but if we don't start working on it now, it won't be ready for the future generations. :P

@Darrin: I suppose that's true, but the gland itself is in the same place on a woman as it would be on a man, which means it should work from anal stimulation as well (slightly less squick-tastic to me). And if the guy has had surgery shouldn't it be accessible via the perinum the same as bio-guys?

Lol, so many interesting thoughts. :P I love this discussion already... :laugh:
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Natkat

I will try be short and clear but it hard when I always writte so much -__-
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If people wanted female to male could get biological children on this way. I do belive it could be posible to happent
there already made experiement where 2 females mouse got children because they made the egs act like semen and such..
however,
people wouldnt feel the need to do this.

Sience is keeping its power back to what they feel is nessesary,

they could also built robots like terminater, but there scared of the consiquenses,
and they could prove homosexuals to be something biological or not.

but they dont want to, because there scared of what might happent..
so I dont see it as anything comming up any soon even if it might be posible.

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Squirrel698

Yes right here I can ejaculate now and could not do it pre - T even though I was orgasmic. 

It is in no way urine even though it comes from the urethra.  So does male sperm, if you think about it.  The fluid is much thicker than urine and almost slick when you rub it.  It's a pretty cool feeling actually and I enjoy it.  Even though it makes a mess and I need to remember to have my towel handy.  TMI, but I can actually squirt up to 6 inches out away from my body, perhaps more. 

I rarely ever do anything with my extra hole.  I usually just concentrate on my little dick and that gets the job done just fine. 

If the urethra was redirected through the clitoris in bottom surgery I am fairly certain that I would ejaculate just like a cis-male after a vasectomy.     

I am an honest to God Father right now and I don't need any more kids, thank you.   :P 
"It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul"
Invictus - William Ernest Henley
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Darrin Scott

Quote from: Squirrel698 on July 22, 2011, 06:35:46 PMI rarely ever do anything with my extra hole.  I usually just concentrate on my little dick and that gets the job done just fine.

Really? I didn't think that was possible.





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Squirrel698

"It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul"
Invictus - William Ernest Henley
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Sharky

I can and I'm pre T. I don't do penetration. I plan on starting T soon and will report any changes.
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Al James

i can sometimes ejaculate and it never involves penetration. Have just started T so will look for any changes
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MaxAloysius

Wow, thanks for the replies guys! And also thanks for saying the personal stuff when you didn't have to! The fact that a couple of you can ejaculate without the need to actually stimulate from inside is very exciting! :D And Sorry squirrel, I didn't mean to imply that you were any less of a legit father. :)

Now I'm really really hoping that I become able to after being on T! That would just make my day! :D
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: Squirrel698 on July 22, 2011, 06:35:46 PMEven though it makes a mess and I need to remember to have my towel handy.

Just ejaculate into your hand and then wash it down the drain.

Eventually you get used to making a mess.  It's only a big deal if you aren't used to it.
"The cake is a lie."
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