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Uhhh... awkwardness

Started by hwytoaster, July 21, 2011, 10:37:01 PM

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hwytoaster

Since I've been establishing myself as male so much more, still pre- everything but my birth name and old life has faded into the background just as an unpleasant annoyance. But I've been feeling a bit awkward about a couple of things.

First off, I'm highly offended and hurt every time I get called a bitch or a ->-bleeped-<- on youtube. it doesn't hurt or offend me to be insulted, but to be considered female. And I can't say ->-bleeped-<- back and tell all the trolls & haters to stop calling me female names because I am NOT a female! Because they don't know that about me, and it could even go as far as to get me killed since my home address and everything is re-blasted all over the internet every time I say anything under my birth name/identity. But being called female, in that way, feels like a real attack on my pride, because I see myself as the big, strong guy who can take care of himself. And so especially being called a ->-bleeped-<-, it makes me feel like people are saying, "hey, that's your place to be a weak female for us to hate, bully and victimize as we please".

And secondly, I'm kind of confused or rather perplexed about not being able to say a lot of things now that "I call myself a guy". Because as a guy, I can't check out other guys or go on about how hot I still think a certain someone is, because that kind of stuff isn't welcome or accepted coming from a guy. I'm not even sure if I'm in the gay world yet, I'm just some fat ugly in between freak without being on T or having had any surgeries. But it really cramps my style that I can't go on about how gorgeous someone is or see a good looking guy and be like "heyyy what's up?" Like I saw a kinda cute kid the other day, tall, skinny, but striking eyes. He said "hey man what's up" or something, and I said "not much bro". I can pull off the interaction without seeming weird, I guess, but I still feel like a freak a creep and a perv now since I realize most guys are not gay and are not going to want to hear my input on their good looks.
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JohnAlex

Quote from: hwytoaster on July 21, 2011, 10:37:01 PM
Since I've been establishing myself as male so much more, still pre- everything but my birth name and old life has faded into the background just as an unpleasant annoyance. But I've been feeling a bit awkward about a couple of things.

First off, I'm highly offended and hurt every time I get called a bitch or a ->-bleeped-<- on youtube. it doesn't hurt or offend me to be insulted, but to be considered female. And I can't say ->-bleeped-<- back and tell all the trolls & haters to stop calling me female names because I am NOT a female! Because they don't know that about me, and it could even go as far as to get me killed since my home address and everything is re-blasted all over the internet every time I say anything under my birth name/identity. But being called female, in that way, feels like a real attack on my pride, because I see myself as the big, strong guy who can take care of himself. And so especially being called a ->-bleeped-<-, it makes me feel like people are saying, "hey, that's your place to be a weak female for us to hate, bully and victimize as we please".

Hm, I'm afraid I don't know much advice to give you here.  I don't know very much.  but guys do sometimes insult eachother by calling eachother female insulting names, just to be even more insulting.
But in this case, these guys are insulting you because they want to, and they don't know that you're a guy, so they aren't meaning to insult you by calling you a girl.
I don't know, I try not to be a offended when the other person isn't trying to offend me.  but I know that's hard sometimes.

I don't suppose simply not having a youtube account is an option?  Or being "out" on youtube?  At least then people would be insulting you on purpose. lol.  I odn't know what to tell you.

Quote from: hwytoaster on July 21, 2011, 10:37:01 PM
And secondly, I'm kind of confused or rather perplexed about not being able to say a lot of things now that "I call myself a guy". Because as a guy, I can't check out other guys or go on about how hot I still think a certain someone is, because that kind of stuff isn't welcome or accepted coming from a guy. I'm not even sure if I'm in the gay world yet, I'm just some fat ugly in between freak without being on T or having had any surgeries. But it really cramps my style that I can't go on about how gorgeous someone is or see a good looking guy and be like "heyyy what's up?" Like I saw a kinda cute kid the other day, tall, skinny, but striking eyes. He said "hey man what's up" or something, and I said "not much bro". I can pull off the interaction without seeming weird, I guess, but I still feel like a freak a creep and a perv now since I realize most guys are not gay and are not going to want to hear my input on their good looks.

LOL, this is so me :P
There's this guy I work with who is damn sexy. And he smells SO good.  but I don't want to tell him, "you smell real good." because I think he'd just be creeped out and possibly complain of sexual harassment, lol.

but yeah, I get ya here.

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hwytoaster

Well actually, people are insulting me to insult me and be mean, but from the angle that they know me to be female and are thus attacking because I'm not acceptable as a female with how I look. And that's why it gets under my skin. But I know it would get much worse if I came out.
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RyGuy

none of those words are ever acceptable to call any person of any gender, sex, or sexual orientation ever. do not blame yourself for "being female" and warranting these remarks. you didn't do anything wrong. the sheer fact that these people are insulting you so rudely sheds a horrible light on their character and therefore you should not worry about anything YOU may have done. they're the ________ (insert word(s) here).
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insideontheoutside

I'd turn comments off on youtube personally. That whole site is just a breading ground for hateful, useless comments across the board. I also wouldn't associate it with your real name at all. Set up a separate anon email at like gmail or something and say in your profile that people can contact you there, but not on the site.
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N.Chaos

Quote from: hwytoaster on July 21, 2011, 10:58:55 PM
Well actually, people are insulting me to insult me and be mean, but from the angle that they know me to be female and are thus attacking because I'm not acceptable as a female with how I look. And that's why it gets under my skin. But I know it would get much worse if I came out.

I've been there, too. I spend a lot of time on /b/ and that flies around constantly. I have to constantly take a breath and remember that they don't know I'm physically screwed up. To them, I'm just another gay guy on the board, and they'll insult me as usual.

I understand the awkwardness of checking people out, too. My solution?
Sunglasses, bro. Seriously. I live in them. It's been my thing for years, because I've got sensitive eyes, and it's always allowed me to people-watch to my hearts' extent. The actual flirting and whatnot? I've got nothing on that one. I'm pretty antisocial, and I kind of just ended up with the people I'm dating.
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Taka

it really isn't all that much fun to be called things because people think you are something that you are not. worst thing i've been called is "an utterly despicable ->-bleeped-<-tard with the mindset of a neanderthal". i think she took me for a guy, and that is why i took offense (in addition to the badmouthing of neanderthals). this must have been what made me start thinking that even though i know i'm not a girl, i might not be a guy either. but i've also experienced to be called bitch as a compliment from a gay guy who thought i was male, and was fine with it

Quote from: hwytoaster on July 21, 2011, 10:37:01 PM
And secondly, I'm kind of confused or rather perplexed about not being able to say a lot of things now that "I call myself a guy". Because as a guy, I can't check out other guys or go on about how hot I still think a certain someone is, because that kind of stuff isn't welcome or accepted coming from a guy. I'm not even sure if I'm in the gay world yet, I'm just some fat ugly in between freak without being on T or having had any surgeries. But it really cramps my style that I can't go on about how gorgeous someone is or see a good looking guy and be like "heyyy what's up?" Like I saw a kinda cute kid the other day, tall, skinny, but striking eyes. He said "hey man what's up" or something, and I said "not much bro". I can pull off the interaction without seeming weird, I guess, but I still feel like a freak a creep and a perv now since I realize most guys are not gay and are not going to want to hear my input on their good looks.
just thought i'd tell you that my youngest brother has no problems saying it when he finds a guy delectable. he identifies as straight, but also says he could turn gay if he wanted to. he's still only about to start high school, but isn't afraid of what other people might think (probably because he thinks he's the coolest guy in the world..)

i also love my sunglasses. the sun doesn't hurt my eyes, i can check out people walking by without anyone thinking i'm a pervert, and they make me look cool
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