Androgyne = bi-gender?

[Maga Girl]

or what?

[Pica Pica]

We tend to use androgyne as the general umbrella term for 'not male nor female' and then sort people out within that. So that bi-gender is like a sub category to the main thing. But these things are more convention then certainty.

[foosnark]

There was a "What type of Androgyne are you?" poll a while back.  Bigender got about 11%.   https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,7211.0.html

I wonder if some bigender people don't actually consider themselves androgyne just because their two genders are so distinct and separate?  Just speculation though.


I also suspect many of these categories could be merged into one basic thing that we just experience slightly differently.  I know I said "ambigender" myself but in a different mood and/or having read different things and/or with more experience, I might have chosen autogender, undecided, no-labels, or fluid.

[ativan]

Sometimes in discussion (or me just spouting off again) instead of refferring to Androgyn as a blanket term I use non-binary. I do this from it being brought to my attention that a Bigender can be a binary person.
So just as there are always exceptions to everything, Bigenders can decide for themselves when they want to be Binary or Non-Binary and just how much overlap there is. So it's up to you, when you want to, to be who you are. Which is more important than any of these labels. Which are just the names of paths you may be on in your journey.

Ativan

[Eva Marie]

Susans wiki states that:

bigender

Bigender (bi+gender) is a tendency to move between masculine and feminine gender-typed behavior depending on context, expressing a distinctly male persona and a distinctly female persona. It is recognized by the APA as a subset of the transgendered group.[1] While an androgynous person retains the same gender-typed behavior across situations, the bigendered person consciously or unconsciously changes their gender-role behavior between primarily masculine and primarily feminine, depending on the situation.

androgyne

An androgyne is a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical masculine and feminine gender roles of their society. Much in the same way as androgyny, androgyne can be used in two related ways: on the one hand, to refer to someone whose gender role or presentation is not typically masculine or feminine, and on the other hand to someone who claims a gender identity outside male and female.

Many androgynes identify as being mentally "between" male and female, or as entirely genderless or the Third Gender. The former may also use the term ambigender or intergender, the latter null gendered, non-gendered or agender. They may experience mental swings between genders, sometimes referred to as being bigender or gender fluid. Some experience severe enough gender dysphoria that they seek HRT or surgery to bring their body more in line with their internal gender, or lack thereof.

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So it can be argued that the bigenders are binary (although i know many that aren't - i see us as kind of genderfluid), and the defining characteristic of bigenders is the gender switching that occurs depending on context (although from reading the above definitions that's true for some androgynes as well). It's that silly label thing again.

I have two genders; my boy mode tends to be an androgyne while girl mode is all girl. The switching is..... rather bizarre when it happens, and i'm not always aware of when a switch is occurring. That puts me into some interesting situations when i switch genders at inopportune times; it's rather weird to suddenly be thinking of painting my nails and what heels would look nice while sitting in a business meeting with a bunch of men

I considered myself an androgyne for a long time before figuring out that i switch genders; i do hope that i my membership card to the unicorn forest still works 

[Pica Pica]

It's a forest, there are as many routes of entrance as gaps in the trees.

[ativan]

You're always welcome at my tree fort. No password needed ( I'd probably forget it anyways).