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Observations and irritations about trans in media

Started by Wolf, July 19, 2011, 12:30:43 AM

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tekla

As soon as we have a bunch of other multi-million dollar trustafarians in transition then maybe...
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Noah G.

Quote from: tekla on July 28, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
Perhaps no normal, but there is 'closer to the norm' and 'so far away from it you need a telescope to see it' and I think he's in the second category.  The best spokesperson tend to be reluctant and not self-titled.  And it's not the first time, before this Chaz was trying to be a 'spokesperson' for the lesbian community.  Before that a rock star.  I just think there is a desperate need for attention, no matter who, or what it hurts in the process.

Fair enough.

I can only speak to what I saw, or what I have seen so far as the case may be. I know very little about Chaz Bono's pre-transition history (I know who his parents are, of course, and I know that he identified or presented as a lesbian before, but that's largely the extent of it), and I have admitted before that I never got around to watching the documentary nor did I read the book, so as to this particular subject I can admit that I don't have all of the information and perhaps cannot truly argue as to his suitability to being a spokesperson. I won't be bullheaded and push the matter, but I did not get the impression that he was presenting his experience as anything but that: his experience. Not in what I saw, at the least.

That said, I do still stand by not completely tearing down everything he has said and his experience. I still think there are better uses of time and energy -- hell, with him being a public figure he can be used as a way to get a foot in the door to further educate people who are open to being educated. Twist it to an advantage somehow because either way what he's saying is out there.
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Berserk

Quote from: Nick19Nick on July 19, 2011, 01:18:52 AM
A huge irritation for me was watching Chaz Bono's documentation on OWN. Worst trans* show ever, horrible depiction of what testosterone does to you. I wish my mom had not seen that because it gave her a horrible insight on what I "want".
>:( stupid chaz
I understand he wants a celebrity face for the FtM community it's just... I don't think it should be his.

Yep, my opinion as well. There were some decent points in it, but overall it wasn't all that good for creating a more positive transguy presence in the mainstream.
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Luc

Quote from: tekla on July 28, 2011, 11:18:05 PM
As soon as we have a bunch of other multi-million dollar trustafarians in transition then maybe...

In the documentary, they said that Chaz had to borrow the money for his top surgery from his AA sponsors. Somehow, I don't think he's rich, just famous by virtue of being his parents' son.
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RyGuy

Quote from: Luc on July 30, 2011, 01:02:17 AM
In the documentary, they said that Chaz had to borrow the money for his top surgery from his AA sponsors. Somehow, I don't think he's rich, just famous by virtue of being his parents' son.

he may have the money coming from cher, but it sounded like she doesn't fully accept him so maybe she withheld it from being used for his surgery.
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malinkibear

Quote from: RyanThomas on July 30, 2011, 12:14:12 PM
he may have the money coming from cher, but it sounded like she doesn't fully accept him so maybe she withheld it from being used for his surgery.
I read an article about him a while ago that seemed to quote Cher as 'blaming herself' and being distraught. But then, Russian gossip magazines aren't the most cite-worthy, so maybe.
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Nygeel

I dislike the number if trans characters played by trans people. If I remember correctly a trans woman auditioned for trans america and didn't get the part because she was deemed too masculine.
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