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job interview, go as a girl or boy ?

Started by Erin H, August 26, 2011, 09:35:01 AM

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Erin H

Ok so tomorrow I have a interview at a supermarket for like a part time job to help with uni etc.
But i don't know whether to go as a girl or boy, should i go as a boy and then let them know when i proper start i would be a girl or should i go as a girl straight away but the problem is that they have my male name and they know i'm a boy urgh.

What would you do in this situation ? :/
Oh i like in the UK so there are laws to protect me so they cant say no due to me being transsexual and stuff :)

Salisha x x
My first Blog
youngtrans.blogspot.com



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Lisbeth

"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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MarinaM

I have done both recently with the same results (no job offer). Go as a girl, less of a hassle..
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marelivki

Are you passable? It can affect people's attitude towards you.
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Erin H

Quote from: marelivki on August 26, 2011, 10:14:42 AM
Are you passable? It can affect people's attitude towards you.

If you want to see some pictures i'm in the could i pass one day topic on page 28 maybe page 29 i posted like 6 pics

I will probs give it some more thought, but i think it might be best to go as my self, a girl.

Salisha x x
My first Blog
youngtrans.blogspot.com



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marelivki

In my opinion you look kind of sweet, and if you have a good voice, you would be passable :)
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Annah

Quote from: salisha on August 26, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
If you want to see some pictures i'm in the could i pass one day topic on page 28 maybe page 29 i posted like 6 pics

I will probs give it some more thought, but i think it might be best to go as my self, a girl.

Salisha x x

if you're going to transition its best to present as female. A lot less of a headache
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Korlee

You should go as female as it is who you are and you want to present confidence in that.  After all going male would make you unhappy and just cause confusion later with them in spots.
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azSam

I had a job interview a few months ago, since I'm full time I went as a girl. I got the job  ;D

Having a name change helps. If you go in as a girl and your name is Robert, it may be a little awkward.
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Whitney

Just a word of caution. Proving someone declined to hire you because of how you presented is incredibly difficult, borderline impossible. Personally I look at the law as protection, but not prevention. Once you have the job it is much easier to prove coming out as trans triggered a termination than it is the former scenario. If you're out at uni, even just part time, I see no real reason to not be out at work, other than that it's public facing. Use discretion, I'm sure you have a pretty good idea how you're generally received.

As for me, I just had two interviews, neither were in person. At least for the time being I'm willing to compromise my personal comfort to establish financial stability and independence. Getting a job while unemployed and new to the work force is very challenging, and I couldn't allow anything to even slightly jeopardize any possible opportunities. Looking for work in the future I'll both be further along in my transition and generally more open to being open about myself with the increased opportunities gained from an increase in experience and employment.
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Erin H

Quote from: Samantharz on August 26, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
I had a job interview a few months ago, since I'm full time I went as a girl. I got the job  ;D

Having a name change helps. If you go in as a girl and your name is Robert, it may be a little awkward.

well done on your job :D:D:D

and yeah that would be awkward :/
i might go in as a boy urgh but then explain everything to them, that might be a bit easier to do.
Like i'm going full time on exactly September 23rd hehe

Salisha x x
My first Blog
youngtrans.blogspot.com



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Erin H

Quote from: Whitney on August 26, 2011, 12:57:23 PM
Just a word of caution. Proving someone declined to hire you because of how you presented is incredibly difficult, borderline impossible. Personally I look at the law as protection, but not prevention. Once you have the job it is much easier to prove coming out as trans triggered a termination than it is the former scenario. If you're out at uni, even just part time, I see no real reason to not be out at work, other than that it's public facing. Use discretion, I'm sure you have a pretty good idea how you're generally received.

As for me, I just had two interviews, neither were in person. At least for the time being I'm willing to compromise my personal comfort to establish financial stability and independence. Getting a job while unemployed and new to the work force is very challenging, and I couldn't allow anything to even slightly jeopardize any possible opportunities. Looking for work in the future I'll both be further along in my transition and generally more open to being open about myself with the increased opportunities gained from an increase in experience and employment.

Hmmmm i think you right, i will go as to the interview and i will probably explain to them there and then, that when i start i will be a girl or just not tell them and when i start the job if i get it, i will tell them then.

Salisha x x
My first Blog
youngtrans.blogspot.com



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Princess Rachel

be yourself hun & enjoy the interview, I hope you get the job :)


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tekla

Proving someone declined to hire you because of how you presented is incredibly difficult, borderline impossible.

Actually, with about a minute and a half of training it becomes impossible.  "We found someone who was a better fit with our needs."

How can you argue with that?  You can't.  And that's exactly what the corporate lawyers write into the policy that the people who do the hiring have to follow.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Whitney

Quote from: tekla on August 26, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Proving someone declined to hire you because of how you presented is incredibly difficult, borderline impossible.

Actually, with about a minute and a half of training it becomes impossible.  "We found someone who was a better fit with our needs."

How can you argue with that?  You can't.  And that's exactly what the corporate lawyers write into the policy that the people who do the hiring have to follow.

I've been working for 5 months and the same day I came out you found a better fit? Do you have documentation you've been looking for a better fit prior to today? Documentation is important. And either way in that event you have the benefit of both unemployment and severance. Losing a job before hand precludes those benefits, along with whatever salary you draw before you come out.
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wendy

If you can pass as a girl then go as a girl. 

I pass as a guy and got hired as a guy.  I did very little to express myself and got fired as a guy even though I was competent.

It is very important to get on with your life after you transition.  It is nice to pay bills!
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Pinkfluff

Go as how you plan to go to work every day, that should minimize any problems.

I don't know what the UK is like but in the US companies are experts at getting away with discrimination. Yeah "you don't fit our needs" is a common one, "we have decided not to pursue your candidacy at this time", or something similar. Many states, if not all, have this "employment at will" law that basically allows them to do whatever the heck the want.

Unemployment cannot always be counted on either, there are ways around it too. Do companies even give severance anymore, to people who aren't executives or managers?
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