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IA's Q&A: Did you have a negative relationship with your same-sex parent?

Started by Just Kate, August 30, 2011, 12:24:06 AM

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Annah

I think Lisbeth thought that because of Interalia's last sentence:


Quote from: interalia on August 30, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
Often my dysphoria was triggered in adolescence by the thought that when I grew up, I would be like him!
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Nero

Re: IA's Q&A: Did you have a negative relationship with your same-sex parent?

Nope. I've always had a great relationship with my mother. My father and I had our ups and downs when I was younger (as many children do with their parents in their teens and early 20s) but have a great relationship now.
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Just Kate

Quote from: Lisbeth on August 30, 2011, 10:51:06 AM
Perhaps I'm offended by your idea that GID is "triggered" by an abusive father and over idealized mother.

You are reading into my statements too much. I have made no such assertions. I don't think my abusive dad or very plain and passive mother created my GID. They certainly didn't make it better though.

Instead of snide remarks why not just speak plainly?  If you'd like to take any beef with me off thread, please contact me. I think you'll find I'm very fair.
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Vincent E.S.

Yup. My mother and I never got along. Our personalities and interests are polar opposites. Both me and my brother take after our dad.
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BunnyBee

On the semantics front, I don't think of my dad as being the same-sex parent.  I understand it's just a wording thing, and it's understandable that you would word it that way since you've said in the past you lean more sociological than biological.  So NBD.

Anyway, digression, I had a good relationship with both of my parents, basically till I came out.
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versuchsanordnung

I cant remember having a relationship with the person who fathered me. For me he always was the unhappy man who lived in the same house as me. When i think of him i just get the feeling of being inadequate ind i remember his aura of unhappiness, emptiness, grey and coldness. Its obviously very hard to describe for me....
A strange story about my picture of him: some years ago i saw him again, mainly because my grandfather had gotten so demented he forgot about the code of silence in my family and spilled the beans bout my existence to his new wife. She, not my father made contact and so i saw him for the second time in about 20 years.
He was in his mid 50s and apart from grey hair he looked younger and more vital than i remembered him from 20 years ago. Like a real life dorian grey.
I am not a child for him, more a living, breathing remembrance of bad times, as it seems. He knows he failed me when i was a child. The 2 hours i spent with him in my childhood home he gave a perfect picture of a bad conscience mixed up with fear i could start talking about old times and ruin his image he has built over the last years...
However, for me father means an empty space. There is nothing i would want from him, nothing i had to say or he had to tell me. We are strangers who lived in the same house a very long time ago. He seems to do now. Good for him.
And please, dear psychologists do not simplyfy me as having failed to identify with an emotionally inavailable father figure and trying to be like mommy instead. That bitch was life threatening. My experiences with her were in fact bad enough my idea of feminity and woman was tainted in a big way. Mtf with a deep ingrained distrust of women bordering on misogyny. Sounds like a jackpot, doesn't it?
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Sianna

My dad is the most important person in my life, even after he passed away. I will always look up to him. As much as I hated beeing a boy, I was and will always be proud and thankful that I was his son.
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SarahLynn

My parents divorced when I was 5. I lived most of my developing years with my mother. We were great friends until my teenage years when I became the independent person she raised me to be. What she really wanted was for me to share her opinions. My opinions were valid if, and only if, they were the same as hers. My father had a clean slate and later on in life had his chance to have a relationship with me. He blew it big time.

At this point I have held out a hand for my mother, but she has yet to reach back. My father has been cut out of my life for the foreseeable future(ATM anyway). All of these issues with my parents have nothing at all to do with my gender issues.
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Jennifer

Hi IA,

My father was the same as yours only amplified. Same with my Mother. He was a dysfunctional, abusive, alcoholic tyrant on his good days.
Mom stayed with him for the kids and because she was uneducated and thought she couldn't afford to leave. :(
I never blamed any of my problems on them. I don't communicate with them and I will never come out to them.
Never the less, I am happy with my life and even happier now that I am transitioning. ;D

Jennifer
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Pinkfluff

Definitely have to say yes on this one. My mother was quite abusive, physically as a young child and when my brother and I got older it got to be more mental games, manipulations, screwing with your life (when you were even allowed to have one) kind of thing. My father was quite the opposite, all passive and trying (and often failing) to keep the peace in the family.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Annah on August 30, 2011, 11:01:07 AM
I think Lisbeth thought that because of Interalia's last sentence:
Quote from: interalia on August 30, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
Often my dysphoria was triggered in adolescence by the thought that when I grew up, I would be like him!
That statement taken together with all of these:
Quote from: interalia on August 28, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
So here goes:  When your GID is triggered, what types of thoughts fill your head?
Quote from: interalia on August 30, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
Did you seek/find idealizations of your target sex?
Quote from: interalia on August 30, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
Did you have a negative relationship with your same-sex parent?

Quote from: interalia on August 30, 2011, 12:59:50 PM
You are reading into my statements too much. I have made no such assertions. I don't think my abusive dad or very plain and passive mother created my GID. They certainly didn't make it better though.

Instead of snide remarks why not just speak plainly?  If you'd like to take any beef with me off thread, please contact me. I think you'll find I'm very fair.
I have no beef with you personally. It's these last three threads of yours that bother me. What you said falls into a pseudo-psychological theory that I am totally against.

You don't need to worry about me. I won't be reading any more of your threads.
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Cen

Quote from: Lisbeth on August 30, 2011, 10:51:06 AM
Perhaps I'm offended by your idea that GID is "triggered" by an abusive father and over idealized mother.

In this context, the use of the word "trigger" doesn't imply that either issue had anything to do with causing GID.  It's just describing something that might trigger already present feelings of dysphoria to a more extreme level.  I'd imagine most of us have our own.

Anyway, my relationship with my parents isn't great.  Work kept my father absent for most of my life, so I barely know him.  My mother is an alcoholic with a volatile personality, and I don't really talk to her much anymore.  I don't really see a way to salvage the relationship unless she gets herself sober.
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Arch

Quote from: Cori on August 30, 2011, 10:38:21 PM
In this context, the use of the word "trigger" doesn't imply that either issue had anything to do with causing GID.  It's just describing something that might trigger already present feelings of dysphoria to a more extreme level.  I'd imagine most of us have our own.

This was how I took it--this thread talks about conditions that exacerbate dysphoria, not situations that cause GID. I am not familiar with the comments from those other threads, but I don't see them as a problem.
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