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What's your opinion on this analogy

Started by Devyn, October 01, 2011, 10:44:32 AM

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VeryGnawty

Quote from: tekla on October 02, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
I don't like it - people are not products.

Yeah.  Besides, with products you can file a complaint with the bottling company.  When you are trans, who is there to blame?

The analogy is a nice try, but pretty weak.
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dmx

The intentions are good but it's very simplistic and not entirely accurate. Because of the simplicity I kinda feel it makes light of our situation too.

One way it differs is that no one with half a brain cell would taste Sprite from a Coke bottle and continue to consider it Coke. Unfortunately that is not the case with trans people, who are challenged in our identities regularly even though we present as such.
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~RoadToTrista~

Quote from: Andy8715 on October 01, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
That's what I took it to mean.  Why keep insisting it's Coke when the inside clearly shows it's not, ie why keep insisting I'm female because of the outside when I clearly state I'm not.

Tis how I took it too. But I guess there's obviously tons of people who would see it the other way.
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King Malachite

It's confusing but I take it more on the negative side but it's making me thirsty.

I like Sprite better than Coke but the bottle says it's Coke and it wants to be known as Coke then guess what?  It's coke.
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supremecatoverlord

I've always hated Coke, so I found this be rather amusing.
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Stephe

One thing trans people seem to believe is other people want to hear a long detailed description of exactly being transgendered is about. That they want to have CD/TG/TS/post-op/pre-op/non-ops all explained. They don't. It's like if someone says "Oh you're like Chaz", they don't mean they believe you shave every life experience and viewpoint with Chaz, i.e. you are his clone. They mean you basically have done what Chaz did.

What people are interested in a very simple one sentence explanation in terms they can understand. I simply tell people "From when I was a small child I always felt inside I was a woman, so I finally starting living as one." NO ONE has ever asked for more details, they just say "I can understand that". And most say something like "Well if that makes you happy, I'm happy for you".  A handful have asked if or when about surgery, which I reply "That's kinda personal" and that's the end of it.

I do like this analogy and think people who took it negative are looking for -other people to see being trans as negative- which seems to be something many trans people believe.

It was very clear to me the coke bottle is the body we were born with and the sprite is what we are in the inside, hence it's inside the bottle. The statement "Why would you insist that what you're dealing with is Coke and can't possibly be anything else?" is very clearly calling for the possibility of being something other than what it might first appear to be.
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schism

this is maybe the weirdest thread i've read here.  much bemused laughter.

i don't have a problem with the analogy.  sometimes people need a very basic explanation, though it's a pretty ineloquent way of describing our feelings and something i'd be more likely to use to explain to a young child. 
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Da Monkey

This is really creepy since I thought of an analogy of how I would explain myself in comparison to pop (probably because I drink ->-bleeped-<-loads of it hahah) and then I found this.

Mine is obviously different. And this is just describing myself not all trans people.

I feel like... okay pretend I'm a can of "Dr Flave". Sure I'm just a store-brand version of "Dr Pepper" but basically we're both the same damn thing in a can. Everything about me is the same except for maybe one small ingredient that I will never be able to have. But who cares, sure it bothers me sometimes but only when I stare and compare myself to Dr Pepper all day. Though some will stick to Dr Pepper because of that one ingredient and bitch and mock those who go for Dr Flave instead and will argue to the end of the world saying that I will never be real Dr Pepper. Then some will be too afraid to try me because they're really not sure what they will be getting themselves into, if they can handle it or handle their friends and family seeing me. But the ones who do pick me laugh about the others because they know they're getting the same thing practically but for half the price. In the end we're both a can of pop whether you like it or not.

Yes, a kind of strange analogy. And yes, I've seen people act that way over pop or I guess Americans call it "soda"?
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