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Started by BunnyBee, September 24, 2011, 03:03:47 AM

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BunnyBee

To feel contempt and bite your tongue, now that is a hard thing to do.  Some people probably feel that you shouldn't even attempt such a thing.  After all, wouldn't that be betraying your beliefs?  Or showing that you are too weak to stand up for what you think is right?

Or would that instead be civility?  Perhaps grace?  Hmmm..

I'll tell you what I think.  We have filters between our thoughts and our words for a reason.  It's important to recognize that highly charged emotions remove those filters.  Since it means you have lost an important social convention, feeling a strong emotional reaction to something is usually a good indication to hold your tongue.  If you don't, you probably will not shine the best light on yourself.

It takes restraint, but to have that restraint is to have grace.  Grace, civility, forbearance- these are virtuous qualities, I think most people would agree with that.

Difference of opinion is great.  Honest debate leads to better understanding.  On the other hand, contemptuous bickering between two sides deeply set in their beliefs is neither productive nor instructive.  The annoying thing is it only takes one person in a group to turn the former into the latter.

Differing opinions exist not because of ignorance, but variances in perspective.  Seeing something from many angles is extremely helpful in understanding that thing, whatever it is.  It isn't helping anybody to drive people with a certain vantage point out, especially when that viewpoint is from an angle many of us would like to see things from one day.  Assuming ignorance drives dissenting opinion is, well, ignorant.  The person you disagree with probably understands your stance perfectly, they just see things differently than you, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The short version- my advice is if you have a strongly negative emotional response to something anybody says, go ahead and type your post up, let it all out... then, instead of posting it, just delete it.  Everybody, including you, will be better off for it.
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~RoadToTrista~

It certainly works. One time I was really upset about stuff in my life, so I came here and typed this long post about all my problems. At the end I decided I didn't want to share that much so I deleted it all, but it did make me feel better.

Srry if that's a bit off-topic lol
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BunnyBee

Nope, it is right on topic.  :)

Besides, staying on topic is very overrated.
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Cindy

I do think that is one area that we need to understand.
You come to a site like this and express your thoughts and opinions, you have finally found acceptance, you can say what  want and be accepted.  But of course that is a falsehood. And why Susan has her Terms of Service, which BTW are very well thought out.

People have a thought that what they believe is true. Unless you start talking about science there is no truth. And even in science truth changes but it is weighed and proved or disproved. In the social area this breaks down very quickly.

(Hypothetical) I believe in my version of the truth and your version is wrong.

It is quite funny, because it is how medieval society operated. I'm the pope, king, earl whatever so I'm right. They did not need to prove they were right, their opinion was that they were right by birth.

The changes that people who could believe in and prove truth had to do were amazing.

We haven't moved that far away from those primitive constructs. And indeed we have retained them and expanded on them.

I am more physical than you so I can impose my will on you. I have more money than you so believe in me.

I know I'm well off topic. Sorry

Cindy

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V M

I think it is very important to keep a civil tongue when debating a differing opinion... That's all I've got for now... Not feeling well, need to lay down
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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BunnyBee

Quote from: Cindy James on September 24, 2011, 03:56:24 AM
People have a thought that what they believe is true. Unless you start talking about science there is no truth. And even in science truth changes but it is weighed and proved or disproved. In the social area this breaks down very quickly.

In my opinion, apart from each of us knowing our own individual consciousnesses exsist, there is no truth.  Everything else is a leap of faith to one degree or another.  I would explain that in better detail, but honestly it's a bunch of boring mumbo jumbo.

There is no straying off topic, you process the words of another person and respond however you may.  That's called having a conversation :).
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jesse

in light of whats been happening on this site lately jens advice is solid gold so many are jumping ship because it wasnt heard in time
jessi
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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BunnyBee

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