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Started by anibioman, September 13, 2011, 11:05:12 PM

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anibioman

what if they think there is  a wad of C4 strapped to my genitals? im actually really concerned i pack all day every day. i could always opt-out and get groped. all the airports i will be flying in and out of have the body scanners. i also heard that the body scanners will replace  the metal detectors or you will have to do both i forget. also since my gender marker on my passport and all other id says F if i do opt out they will still have questions because from what ive heard they really feel up your thigh so they will feel my packer. what will they do if i put it in my carry on and then put it back in my pants? i dont want this to happen especially since i will always be with my parents

Bahzi

I flew out of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International last week, and did go through the full body scanner, but I had figured I would have to before hand, so I had put my packer in my checked luggage for the trip home.  My originating airport in Dayton, Ohio doesn't use them so I wore it for that first flight.

In Atlanta, the body scanner wasn't mandatory, but it also wasn't obvious which line went to it.   I was already in queue for it by the time I realized it was different from the normal metal detector lines, and I figured backing out would garner more suspicion and warrant a full pat-down, which could have been very awkward since they would first see me as male and then notice what I was missing face-to-face.  My understanding prior to my trip after doing a bit of research on it was that the people viewing the monitors for the full-body scanners can't see the person except for the image on the scanner.  So they wouldn't necessarily know for sure if the person in the image that they're looking at is presenting as male or female.  They also don't see a name, gender, or any other info from the person's ID to accompany the image.  They're looking for contraband, no reason for them to complicate things by looking for something that's 'supposed' to be there but isn't.  That's why I thought not packing was probably better for escaping notice, but to each his own.

I had no problems, by the way.  It was quicker than the metal detector lines, I was through in 5 minutes, versus about 20 for the metal detectors.  They did pat down my chest briefly (was binding), and the low cargo pockets of my loose shorts after the scan, but they did the same to the guy who was behind me too.  If they noticed the binding, they said nothing.  My ID says male now too.  I was pretty nervous, to be honest, but letting myself appear so could have been disastrous.   I recommend doing whatever you're most comfortable with.  I've heard TSA employees have had training regarding transgender rights, but there's varying accounts of their actual treatment of us.
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noxdraconis

I went through airport security last month and had no problems with packing.  I went through the body scanner with my packer on, and nobody asked me to step aside for further screening or anything like that.  I just had to stand on the foot prints inside this large clear tube thing and raise my arms over my head, then step out after a few seconds.  I do not know if it makes a difference or anything, but it was a domestic flight.



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jamiejo

On the opposite spectrum, as a MFT, I was wondering when I would get my first pat down.  I said "There is going to be a bump, because I'm a pre-op transsexual".  They kindly said thank you for let us know, they preformed their duties, next minute I'm catching the plane.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: jamiejo on September 14, 2011, 08:30:13 AM
On the opposite spectrum, as a MFT, I was wondering when I would get my first pat down.  I said "There is going to be a bump, because I'm a pre-op transsexual".  They kindly said thank you for let us know, they preformed their duties, next minute I'm catching the plane.

Why did you have to tell them? Were you untucked?
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 14, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
Why did you have to tell them? Were you untucked?
depending on when she flew, she may have had the karate-chop grope that some airports have been seeing...horror stories abound over at FlyerTalk about how invasive the grope tends to be.  Many women have reported significant contact with the vaginal lips as the smurf completed their grope. 

I've only seen it since I generally self-select to the WTMD and avoid the porn-o-scopes (from which I would opt-out and therefore be groped).  Being post-op, it isn't an issue as regards what TSA calls 'resistance' but the grope still creates fundamental problems for me at both a practical AND a Constitutional level.  Fortunately the terminal I fly out of most still has the WTMD for the elite lines...just not sure for how much longer. 

As to the OP's question, and in deference to the fact that this is an FTM section, I would wholly recommend KNOWING the airport in question.  Lots of good discussions in the Travel Safety and Security section at FlyerTalk, including what airports are using what methods of screening and how obnoxious the smurfs happen to be.
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jamiejo

Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 14, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
Why did you have to tell them? Were you untucked?

Why did you have to tell them?  Firstly, I'm Fulltime 4 months and fly all the time for work.  This was my choice!  I'm just being an open individual about my transition, I didn't want this to turn into a full body cavity search.  Honestly, took 60 seconds and I was on my way. 

Were you untucked? No, my ummm "excess material" was secured in place, but during the pat down it would be discovered. 

BTW: Regulations state they have to use the back of their hand over the "sensitive" regions, therefore no groping.  If it is a grope...then you sue!!!  If you are traveling with a friend, have them witness the pat down for your protection.
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JenJen2011

Wow, really? The pat down is that extensive now? This must be new. Well, it has been a while since I've travelled.
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: JenJen2011 on September 14, 2011, 12:27:50 PM
Wow, really? The pat down is that extensive now? This must be new. Well, it has been a while since I've travelled.

It is worse trying to fly commercial than it is to go see my clients in prison facilities...seriously!

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jamiejo

Just to clarify - I have done 50 flights this year  & had 1 pat down....or private massage (put a positive twist on it).

9 days after FFS I flew home from Boston, with my face battered, bruised, swollen, etc. - no issues!
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Renate

Quote from: jamiejo on September 14, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
If you are traveling with a friend, have them witness the pat down for your protection.

Has anybody who was traveling alone asked a random stranger to accompany them to witness the pat-down?
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Ann Onymous on September 14, 2011, 12:36:33 PM
It is worse trying to fly commercial than it is to go see my clients in prison facilities...seriously!

LOL!
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JenJen2011

Quote from: jamiejo on September 14, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
Just to clarify - I have done 50 flights this year  & had 1 pat down....or private massage (put a positive twist on it).

9 days after FFS I flew home from Boston, with my face battered, bruised, swollen, etc. - no issues!

Now that I remember, when I travelled from South America to the US a few years ago, they had me go into this room to x-ray me. So, consider yourself lucky.

I'm so glad I'm driving to and from FFS. :)

OP, sorry if you feel us gals are hijacking your thread. :eusa_silenced:
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Lee

You could go to the bathroom and put it in your carry on before going through then take it back out.  It would have to go through the scanner, but I doubt they would think it's anything other than a dildo if they were to notice it.  I guess there's the possibility of an embarrassing situation, but I would think it would be fine.  If you're comfortable being without it for a bit the safest bet would probably be to stuff it into a checked bag.
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straightedgechris

I flew out of Ft. Lauderdale a couple months ago and had decided not to pack (packing in south Florida in July is soooo sweaty!) aaaand of course I have my first pat-down. The karate-chop variety. The guy had radioed in, "male" to whomever just before doing it--I was horrified that he'd think, "jeez this guy must have a micro penis!" haha well next time I packed, was frisked yet again, and all was fine again.

Bottom line, I wouldn't over-think it.

jamiejo- I love that you just came right out and told them! I love even more that they were like, "ok thanks" and carried on without acting freaked out!!
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Adio

On my way to Florida for top surgery, I went through the body scanners.  Didn't pack and was binding at the time.  My name has been changed and all my gender markers say male.  There was a woman behind the scanners viewing the images as people walked through.  The monitors were not in another room (that I could tell) and it was only a female viewing everyone's images.  Kind of strange, but she said nothing and didn't give me any odd looks.

Flying out of Ft. Lauderdale, I was not packing or binding.  Because I just had surgery, I got a modified pat-down.  I told the TSA agents that I was able to stand (in a wheelchair), but they insisted that I sit.  The male assist used his palms for everything but my inner thighs and hips where he used the back of his hands.  He did not actually go near or touch my crotch.  The most uncomfortable part was when he touched my chest (due to sensitivity/pain).  All the TSA agents were very polite and professional.
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JessicaH

Honestly, I'd jsut use it as an excuse to mess with TSA. With the right attitude, you could freak them out WAY more than they could you!  >:-)
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xander

I was packing/binding when I flew into California in June this year.
I had to go through a body scanner and I got cornered off, surrounded by guards.
Then taken into a room where a woman pat me down (only in the genital area). Asked me what was in my pants, then I had to undo my pants, rub my hands across my dick and show them to her so she could swab them.

This wasn't in customs area. This was heading for my flight to Chicago.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: xander on October 05, 2011, 06:49:24 AM
I was packing/binding when I flew into California in June this year.
I had to go through a body scanner and I got cornered off, surrounded by guards.
Then taken into a room where a woman pat me down (only in the genital area). Asked me what was in my pants, then I had to undo my pants, rub my hands across my dick and show them to her so she could swab them.

This wasn't in customs area. This was heading for my flight to Chicago.

Yikes! That must've been fun. ::)
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xander

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