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My wife and I chat about Vaginas! Hurray!!!

Started by Stephanie.Izann, October 06, 2011, 05:54:32 PM

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Stephanie.Izann

So the other day my who has been so supportive asked me if I wanted to get castrated or go for the full vagina. I consider myself a lesbian so it's a little convenient to have a built in dildo on you LOL. But they truth is I have never been horrified or felt bad about my penis. I have great O's with it. I guess I am afraid of losing the orgasms. If I was guaranteed orgasms like the ones I have (and even better on HRT) then I would do it.
She even told me that she would please me either way. BIG WOW on THAT one! 
I feel really lucky that she is on board with all of this. Our relationship (now one year on HRT) has dramatcially improved and now that my child knows and supports me as well I feel like I am living a fairytale.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Penis/no penis  Castration etc.
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LordKAT

Gratz on the accepting and supportive family. You chose your partner well from the sound of things.
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Karla

Yay! It must feel wonderful to able to discuss such things and be so open about it.

The real answer to your question is that only you would know what you need based on your circumstances but let me try:

In your shoes I'd take the opportunity to assert my physical identity and reconcile it with my body image as a womanfemale once and for all.. especially since everyone around me that I care about is so wonderfully supportive.

Personally I'd take my chances with the orgasms.. but again your physical dysphoria isn't as intense as mine. I'd only perform orchi if I didn't have the money or the time to do the complete procedure.

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LilKittyCatZoey

Quote from: Karla on October 06, 2011, 09:32:55 PM
Yay! It must feel wonderful to able to discuss such things and be so open about it.

The real answer to your question is that only you would know what you need based on your circumstances but let me try:

In your shoes I'd take the opportunity to assert my physical identity and reconcile it with my body image as a womanfemale once and for all.. especially since everyone around me that I care about is so wonderfully supportive.

Personally I'd take my chances with the orgasms.. but again your physical dysphoria isn't as intense as mine. I'd only perform orchi if I didn't have the money or the time to do the complete procedure.

i agree seeming i would do the surgery to have a vagina right now if i could but in your case i would say consult a surgeon and then see how you feel :)
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A

I, too, advise a consultation with a surgeon.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Stephanie.Izann on October 06, 2011, 05:54:32 PM
So the other day my who has been so supportive asked me if I wanted to get castrated or go for the full vagina. I consider myself a lesbian so it's a little convenient to have a built in dildo on you LOL. But they truth is I have never been horrified or felt bad about my penis. I have great O's with it. I guess I am afraid of losing the orgasms. If I was guaranteed orgasms like the ones I have (and even better on HRT) then I would do it.
She even told me that she would please me either way. BIG WOW on THAT one! 
I feel really lucky that she is on board with all of this. Our relationship (now one year on HRT) has dramatcially improved and now that my child knows and supports me as well I feel like I am living a fairytale.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Penis/no penis  Castration etc.

I've never had a wife and find your post alien to the way I feel about my body. Maybe transition isn't really what you are seeking?

Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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Mahsa Tezani

Relationships go beyond the sums of their parts. Regardless of what part you have, two people are still in love regardless of gender.

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Stephanie.Izann

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on October 08, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
I've never had a wife and find your post alien to the way I feel about my body. Maybe transition isn't really what you are seeking?

I don't agree with you there but I do thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. As far as me transitioning I'm at one year and have never looked back. This is what I want and what I'll get.LOL
But, I think some of us have made certain choices regarding families and those we love, that I feel ( and no one has to feel this way) that despite how desperate I want to be a woman I STILL share a past and thankfully a relationship with a woman. As with those that are born in the body of a woman, some are born Lesbians. It's like my Lesbian friends say, "Yeah I have Penis envy, but I still want my vagina!" It's somewhat part of that culture ( although not all Lesbians feel this way). This is my case. I don't think (and this has constantly been debated here) what I have in-between my pants makes me any less. Do I want a vagina? Of course I do! ;)   BUT, does it define me, no it doesn't. I'm very lucky to be in a loving and very sexually active relationship. My wife understands and loves me very much and does treat me as a woman. I'm lucky that we can go get our hair and nails done together, have romantic dinners and play under the sheets ...as a woman. We are young people and very in love.
The gravity of my dysphoria may not be as extreme as some, but it certainly is one that has haunted me in the past.  I only wish I had made  my decision sooner. And with many, we worry about pleasing are partners and being pleased (and having those wonderful Orgasms too). And truthfully, my sex life is so amazing that I dont know if I want to lose the O's. LOL 'Cause they are AMAZING with my partner! I guess there are no guarantees on the O's after you get your vagina and that's what I worry about more. 

And MAHSA, I agree with you girl all the way!!!!
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Ember

Ok I'm confused and I hope this isn't too far off topic but....

You've been on HRT for a year yet your penis still works and you still have great orgasms?  All the reading I've done states that your sex drive goes way down, your penis and testicles shrink and and basically stop functioning when men go on estrogen. 

I'm very attached to my penis (lol) and I definitely want to keep it, and keep it in good working order, but I'd also like the softer skin, more feminine features and breasts that HRT can provide.  I thought these would be mutually exclusive.

?!?

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Bird

It was very interesting for me to read this topic, it shows me how broad and diverse we are.

Stephanie, I think it is wonderful you don't have such a intense physical dysphoria. I think SRS is a large step to take and as you said, there is no garantee for sensibility. If you think keeping your penis is right for you, go ahead and keep it :)

Myself, I can't stand even looking at the thing, much less touching it or using it. I wear panties to shower so I don't get dysphoria (intense dysphoria at that) and wash it with a spounge so I don't have to touch it. I'd be better off without any genitals at all than with a penis, so SRS is the way to go for me.

Heck, just TALKING about it, actually not even that, just typing about it, gives me a little bit of anxiety.
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justmeinoz

You are a lucky couple Stephanie, that is for sure.  As long as you are both happy with the way things are going who cares what plumbing fittings are currently installed. You can always change your plans later.
And, if for some reason you are unable to have surgery , you have a Plan 'B'.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Padma

Quote from: Ember on October 10, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
You've been on HRT for a year yet your penis still works and you still have great orgasms?  All the reading I've done states that your sex drive goes way down, your penis and testicles shrink and and basically stop functioning when men go on estrogen.

This varies a great deal from person to person. It's impossible to predict who will respond how to HRT. Some people even experience an increase in libido on HRT. Probably the majority don't, but it's pretty variable.
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Gabby

Quote from: Stephanie.Izann on October 06, 2011, 05:54:32 PM
So the other day my who has been so supportive asked me if I wanted to get castrated or go for the full vagina. I consider myself a lesbian so it's a little convenient to have a built in dildo on you LOL. But they truth is I have never been horrified or felt bad about my penis. I have great O's with it. I guess I am afraid of losing the orgasms. If I was guaranteed orgasms like the ones I have (and even better on HRT) then I would do it.
She even told me that she would please me either way. BIG WOW on THAT one!
Hi Stephanie,
Has the issue of changing ever been a primary concern for you sexually?  Only you know how you work sexually, it sounds like you're very happy how you are right now, I wouldn't change unless it's going to be a big improvement.

Quote from: Stephanie.Izann on October 06, 2011, 05:54:32 PM
I feel really lucky that she is on board with all of this. Our relationship (now one year on HRT) has dramatcially improved and now that my child knows and supports me as well I feel like I am living a fairytale.
If it's all going good keep with that, that's my advice :)
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kylie clark

I think its great that your wife is supportive. 
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Stephanie.Izann

Quote from: Ember on October 10, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
Ok I'm confused and I hope this isn't too far off topic but....

You've been on HRT for a year yet your penis still works and you still have great orgasms?  All the reading I've done states that your sex drive goes way down, your penis and testicles shrink and and basically stop functioning when men go on estrogen. 

I'm very attached to my penis (lol) and I definitely want to keep it, and keep it in good working order, but I'd also like the softer skin, more feminine features and breasts that HRT can provide.  I thought these would be mutually exclusive.

?!?

Yep, I have been on HRT for 1 year and I can still orgasm amazingly so and yes, I still get erections. My libido is up as well. Honestly,  I don't want to quit feeling this way. I enjoy the sexual relationship/Love that I share with my wife and I enjoy the orgasms more NOW that I did before HRT. I don't want to just let that passion and drive dissipate. I'm selfish this way, in that I would rather continue this way than have it all taken away to simply not feel sexual anymore or have no desire for sex. I don't want a sexless relationship. As far as softer skin, and fem features goes that has nothing to do with HRT working or not. The other day I was just wearing my jeans a t-shirt, and a baseball cap when I was approached by a man and my wife and I were outside a coffee place and he said "Ladies, can you spare some change?" He continues chatting about his life and I said. "Well, we're having a tough time too since we just got our child out of the ICU after 90 days!" and he said "Wow, you girls have a child together?...Wow" So, the HRT is indeed working...soft skin, figure, facial features femmed up etc etc. Your libido isn't a meter for how much HRT is working or not. I believe a lot has to do with the mind and how you perceive things. I believe each person is different. Remember the most amazing sexual organ you have is your mind. As for me I feel lucky in that I already have the one soulmate I will have forever in my life. Do I desire a vagina? Of course I do! Does that alone define me? No.



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