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When did you first encounter another trans-person in 'person' ?

Started by Anatta, October 16, 2011, 11:54:18 PM

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: JoeyD on October 17, 2011, 11:28:48 PM
A makeup artist from a MAC counter.
She was very kind and taught me everything I know.
Also gave me plenty of pointers in transitioning.
I'm very grateful to have met her.

Shes my sensei :D

+1

Cosmetics world was full of interesting discoveries. I am so glad they hire people of all sorts of attractions.

I would have never learned anything in my therapy group. I needed MAC girls to teach me the ropes.
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justmeinoz

Other than passing people in the street type situations where you  may or may not be sure, the first transperson I had anything to do with at a personal level was a transman.

It was when my now son came out to me as FtM. 

I guess having already come to terms with the idea of my daughter being a butch lesbian, it wasn't a total shock to realise that I was in the process of acquiring a son instead, and I adjusted pretty quickly. Seeing him happy instead of suffering from a serious case of Depression was all it took really.

It was watching him caring for his grandmother in the last days before she died that was the final spur to deciding to start living an authentic life myself.  Life is too short to waste on a lie.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Chloe

lol Via my now "ex-wife" who still claims "deception", "had no clue" and, even more tellingly, "still loves me regardless" (and as she also wants yet more child-support even though MY KIDS can't stand her either!)
"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Akashiya Moka

I never have... at least not that I know of. I would like to though.
Maybe I should go to a support group or something?
"Another Life Saved By Girl-On-Girl Action." ~House

"What... Is The Airspeed Velocity Of An Unladen Swallow?"

"Black as the Devil, Hot as Hell, Pure as an Angel, Sweet as Love."
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TraciMC

The first trans person I met was Vanessa, my ex-gf's workmate in a yogurt shop in a shopping center.  This was back in 1990.  Vanessa was about 18 and living full time.  I was a few years older but had been privately thinking about transition for a long time, and was feeling a lot of dysphoria that year.  Up to this point I hadn't told a soul about my situation, although I came close to broaching the subject in an unsent letter to my girlfriend the year before.  I presented publicly for the first time as a woman that summer (in daylight, that is, not counting the times I went out when I was 14 and 15 at night), but I had such a bad experience with it, it made me want to give up (which I did...for the next 4 years).  Ended up crying on a park bench; I felt I would never pass and could never just feel like I could live as a normal woman.  And then a few weeks later my sister found my wig and called me a "pervert".  Anyway, while all that was happening, my girlfriend worked at this yogurt shop and sometimes I would meet up with her after work.  A few occasions they both ended work at the same time and so I had some social interaction with Vanessa, but not too much.  I knew she was trans from my girlfriend; her gender situation was known at work, and there were some things about her like her voice that could be interpreted as relevant.  I remember wishing I could ask Vanessa about her transition, but 1) I never had any time alone with her, 2) She would have just told my girlfriend I asked about it, 3) It would have been rude, and 4) I just didn't have the guts.

My girlfriend had mixed feelings about Vanessa.  She said that Vanessa had an attitude and was immature, but at the same time fun to talk with.  The word she always used to describe her was "sassy".  I had the distinct impression that she did not see Vanessa really as female, but still somehow as a sassy gay male.  And then she got suspicious by how much I kept asking about Vanessa.  Vanessa also wasn't the only TS my ex-girlfriend knew.  A few years before I came out to my ex-girlfriend, I would see a woman on the bus that I wondered if she was trans.  She was very passable but I had some intuition.  Then one day my girlfriend pointed her out to me (I remember she was wearing a baby-doll dress), and she told me that she had gone to her high school, and was once male but gradually transitioned to female as a teen.

Then in 1994, I finally came to the point where I needed to begin transition, and took the very difficult step of coming out to my girlfriend.  She already had strong suspicions because I had done a test RLE to see if I could pass, and she tore through my belongings to find evidence on me.  So when I initially told her about my gender dysphoria in late September, she thought it meant I was a crossdresser, even though I did explain the difference to her (for a long time after that she didn't see much difference between crossdressers and TSs).  And when I showed her in person what I looked like as female in November, she immediately compared me to Vanessa: "You seem really sassy now."  But soon it became clear to me that she didn't understand that I needed to transition, so I discussed my dysphoria again and explained that I was TS, and her immediate reaction was: "What?! You want to be like Vanessa?"  Then by December, I was told that I had to choose between staying with her or being Traci, so I chose to delay my transition again because I was not emotionally ready to break up (we had been together since 1987).  But things came to a head less than a year later when I started therapy.  During that time when I put off transition, my girlfriend and I would see TSs on the daytime talk shows, and she would often criticize them as "sassy".  That made me wonder if she was comparing them to her old workmate.  Also during that time, I would often see Vanessa working at Tower Records.  Again I longed to ask her about transition (I hadn't ever met another TS before), but I knew it would have been totally inappropriate, so I never did. 

The first TS I met whom I was open about my situation with was the head of the local support group, whom I met for the first time on November 1, 1995.   She had been transitioning for three years.  I went over to her apartment and we talked about my personal situation, how to improve my voice, the practical difficulties and realities of transitioning, and about the support group itself.  Then the next day, about an hour before I went to my therapist appointment, I logged into Susan's Place chat at my university computer lab.  Nothing much was going on for twenty minutes, until someone logged in who was also from my same state!  She asked me if it was true I was living here, and I told her what university I was at.  Then she wrote, "My God, I'm at the university too -- you're not that beautiful girl sitting next to me in the computer lab?!"  I wasn't presenting female anyway, but I asked her which lab and it turned out to be the other one on campus.  So we arranged to meet at the student services building just after my therapist appointment.  She said she would be wearing a shirt with a monkey on it.  After my appointment, I went downstairs and there she was, my new friend.  She was 16 years post op, and was stealth, but we sat down and talked for almost an hour about my life, her experiences, and my plans for the future.  And so this was the first friend I made who was trans -- and I wouldn't have met her if I hadn't come to Susan's Place to chat an hour and a half earlier!

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Akashiya Moka

~Traci, wow, that was an awesome story (do you write a lot perchance?)!  :) Now I definitely want to meet another trans person in RL.
"Another Life Saved By Girl-On-Girl Action." ~House

"What... Is The Airspeed Velocity Of An Unladen Swallow?"

"Black as the Devil, Hot as Hell, Pure as an Angel, Sweet as Love."
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Lee

It was at my first transmen's group meeting about a year ago.  There were three other guys there, two of whom were younger and also just getting started.  The older guy made my day.  I spent the whole meeting being shocked by how much he looked like/sounded like/was a normal guy.  Even his bald spot made me happy.  I haven't knowingly met a transwoman yet.  I'm kind of out of the LGBT loop, but I'm okay with that.
Oh I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love

A blah blog
http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,365.0.html
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Alainaluvsu

The first time I've seen 1? When I was 9 in San Antonio. Me and my family were at a McDonalds and they pointed her out and started laughing. She seemed so unconfident and I felt sorry for her :( I wished I could say hi or something!

The first time I've communicated with one was at a truck stop (yeah...). Well I think she was trans, she may have just been a cross dresser because she did not pass at ALL and her mannerisms weren't very close. Everyone there was quiet, but when an employee offered to help with her clothes.. as soon as she left everybody was making jokes. I wanted to tell them to STFU but the ppl at the truck stop were my customers.

I clocked an MTF at Montecello. I think she was passable to everybody else, but I could see through her due to her insecure demeanor and her unwillingness to speak up, which would probably have exposed her. My mother was with me, and she even referred to her as a she... so she was definitely passable to at least some...

LADIES IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE CONFIDENT!
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Felix

It's important for all of us to be confident. Sometimes it makes the difference between passing and not passing.

And hey Traci, your story was moving. I wish you the best of luck.
everybody's house is haunted
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Felix on October 22, 2011, 02:05:55 AM
It's important for all of us to be confident. Sometimes it makes the difference between passing and not passing.

And hey Traci, your story was moving. I wish you the best of luck.

I always walked into every place like I owned it...regardless of my gender.
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tekla

I always liked, admired, and tried to emulate the Carly Simon line: You walked into the party like you were walking onto a yacht.  For me it sets the right tone, more than enough, but not too much.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Amazon D

1970-71 in eureka calif on H street i met a sister who was living in a house full of lesbians. We spoke right after she came back from an electrologist. She looked terrible with all those puncture marks. She was from conneticut. She was a brunette and had all her hair. ( I ALWAYS WONDER WHERE SHE IS TODAY) I was a teen runaway who had longer hair and no facial hair and was often mistaken for being female. She told me to start saving my money to get surgery. I was a southern humboldt county hippie pot grower but we were barely able to grow any with our poor soil. we all got food from the government back then in cans and bags. It took until around 1972 that we were able to grow enough pot to pay for a structure to live in. Previously we lived in plastic tents. oh those were the days.. I did leave to go back east and then i joined the USMC but left them early after nixon got impeached then went back in 74 to the redwood inn in garberville and from there out to ettersburg etc etc etc and eventually left by 81 and went back east where when i went to the phila gender clinic they told me i had to like men to be able to transition.. grrr .. there i met many sisters and for yrs i drove down sansom street watching the many black sisters tramp around.. they would all try to get me to let them in my truck but i just wanted to be them not be with them.. I then got into hard drugs which is why i had left N. Calif and soon got into NA and found freedom there for a 13 yrs until the truth came out again and i realized i had the funds to transition and it all happened in 13 months time from start to finish. 
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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santesyu

At the airport shockingly, but it was pretty obvious because she didn't shave her legs and her arms was pretty hairy aswell. I felt so back for her because everybody was laughing and giggling. This happend during 4 of july this year, I wonder how she took all of that. She acted like she was in her own zone though she was unfazed. The bravest person, I never knew.
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Ava C

Sadly I haven't met another trans person before ..or I didn't notice them. I really don't pay attention to others, as usually I'm more worried about myself.  :P
living halfway between reality and fantasy at all times.
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eli77

Girl in the waiting room after my very first appointment with a gender therapist. She was pretty. I didn't clock her, just knew what she was cause of where she was.
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justmeinoz

I was at a Gender and Sexuality retreat over the weekend and met a 19 yearold transwoman who I now consider family as well as a friend, as well as one of the organisers.  Considering those fellow members of my support group, I am starting to meet a fair few people in the same boat.

Karen.

"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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apple pie

I don't seem to have noticed trans people around me until these two years (now I start to notice a few on the streets), and so far the only person I know to be trans I've actually talked to in real life is my therapist.
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Lallie

I have been aware of transpeople ever since my dysphoria finally led me to seek out whatever information I could find in that ignorant, pre-internet time. But the first time I interacted at any length with a person I knew was a transwoman was at a St. Patrick's Day party a few years ago. Before that, I had been at a housewarming party probably ten years ago, and sat in the living room with several people, including a very attractive young person who sat silently in the corner. I remember finally figuring out she was a shy transwoman, at which point I began to envy her youth and beauty! Bad me!

The woman at the St. Pat's party, by the way, is a well-known musician, who is effortlessly female--and extremely talented.

:) Lallie
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Lily

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Lexicaligari

I met drag performers as that what the usual way in the 1980's. Many of them suggested I go on stage. I was an undergraduate at the time and dispared at how I would ever get my writing for classes done if I did so! What a nerd! This was of course in the days before the "Inter-Webs" hell even before the bulletin boards!

One star became a good friend; she passed totally and was very savvy. I owe her a lot. I have no idea what ever happend to her... We were just kids, trying to make our way in the world.

Lexi-
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