Not to be too picky, but that's what such divisions are about, but Traffic (one of the most awesome, and at this time, criminally forgotten bands) is really a 'psychedelic' band of the late sixties who have just as much if not more stuff that is slow, smooth and jazz-like (Paper Sun, Dear Mister Fantasy, Feeling Alright, Low Spark of High Healed Boys) and folky (like John Barleycorn and 40,000 Headmen) and very little "hard rocking', and the Ramones are pure American punk, if not the premier and iconic American Punk Rockers, though the rocked, no doubt about that.