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Now if we talk bottom surgery

Started by Natkat, October 26, 2011, 12:51:03 PM

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would you still do the surgery if if it were very complicated and gave a very bad result?

yes,
12 (24%)
depends on how bad
15 (30%)
no
16 (32%)
im not planning on getting the surgery anyway / other
7 (14%)

Total Members Voted: 44

Natkat

Hope you dont mind
but the thing just catch my mind,

I thought many FTMs dont do bottom surgery, either because they feel confortable enought in what they got, or that the surgery result
will give a bad result, personally. I dont mind so much but I guess the surgery also generally to bad for my taste and if they where better there would have been a bigger chance I would do it.

I just wonder if it would be the same for mtf,
would you option of the bottom surgery chance if the result wasn't that good,
or if it was more complicated?

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JenJen2011

If the outcome was "very bad" and with a lot more complications, I probably wouldn't do it.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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wheat thins are delicious

FTM bottom surgery results are not all bad.  The results what is right for the people that get the surgery. 


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Mahsa Tezani

I have no plans for srs at all.

As if a surgical represenation of whats in my pants defines me. It doesn't.

i fully support others following their dreams.
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justmeinoz

Having worked in medical science I am aware that any surgery entails a degree of risk.  If SRS was something I thought was not going to be worth it, I would just have an orchi and leave it at that.  That way I would at least be able to reduce my E dosage and tucking wouldn't be an issue. 
My situation would be no worse than that faced by the transmen here.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: justmeinoz on October 26, 2011, 09:13:08 PM
My situation would be no worse than that faced by the transmen here.

I'm not really sure what you mean by that.  There are men here who have had meta and some who have had phallo. 


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Valeriedoeswcs

My hatred for my genitals was lifelong. Once I knew it was possible to remove it and it was something even I could have (not just the rich and famous), I did everything within my means to get rid of it. I was on a mission and nothing was going to stop me. Not family, not employer, not spouse, not children ...nothing. I gave up everything and did it openly saying this is me, if you dont like it ...too bad, this is something I need. I was willing to die for it. When I walked into that operating room and allowed them to make me unconscious I knew I was doing the right thing, even if I never awoke. Those were my last thoughts as I fell asleep. Contentment. I was going to die happy.

If the only possibility was a nullification, it would have been better than having that thing there. It disgusted me beyond sanity.

Fortunately, that is not the case and I have a functional vagina. The relief, happiness and pleasure is immeasurable.

I do not understand why any woman would not want a vagina for their life, for both themselves and their lovers. When a man reaches down and his hand finds its way to that silky place igniting both of our passion, there is nothing like it. When he is inside me and my body arches up to his and I look up at him and see the smile of pleasure and ecstasy on his face, there is nothing like it. But each of us have to make that decision for ourselves.

Was I lucky? No, I made it happen. It took me 51 years, but I made it happen. Nothing on earth was going to stop me.
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AbraCadabra

* ... if you dont like it ...too bad, this is something I need. I was willing to die for it. When I walked into that operating room and allowed them to make me unconscious I knew I was doing the right thing, even if I never awoke. Those were my last thoughts as I fell asleep. Contentment. I was going to die happy. *

This pretty much sums up my own situation.
I said: "... and if it's the LAST thing I'll do, I will do it! [SRS]"

Please recall I had open heart surgery just bit more then one year before, and brain surgery some 4 month prior to SRS.
This may give you some idea how serious I did feel about it. I have not regretted a minute of it after SRS :-) I'm very content.

If I knew me to be totally mutilated - I can't say what I have decided.
I do have my aesthetics - and to look worse then before? I just can't say.
As it turn out I'm very satisfied with my results, so all the rest be pure speculation now.

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Natkat

Quote from: Andy8715 on October 26, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
I'm not really sure what you mean by that.  There are men here who have had meta and some who have had phallo.

sure there are ftm who do the surgerys,
but as I see it it seam more common that mtf do the surgery/want to do the surgery than ftm do.
I think its because that mtf results on that part often turn out better and less complicated, at least that mainly the reason for the people I head who didnt want to have bottom surgery that the reason for it was they wasnt satified with it, or thought it where to risky or hard to get.

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AbraCadabra

Natkat,
it REALLY is a relevant question to ask I think, and in this case better asked by an AFAB as yourself.
Any one MtF post-op would have been pretty well roughed up by now over it. I'm quite certain.
At least so in my experience, so thank you for that.
Posting it in the MtF forum also will have helped I'm certain. Idealists and exceptionalists, YMMV.

I have a thought that 'practicability & feasibility' of the FtM bottom surgery is not all there is to it.
Maybe FtM in general have less [hate] issues with their genitalia then MtF with theirs?
I really think so, as there is nothing much visible to get hung about [pun intended].

Also remember the [hate] issue for FtM seems far more the case with breasts [VISIBLE!], and so mastectomy is much more THE first required step - as it is a 'give away' much as male genitalia is for MtFs. As soon as one gets to wear a swimming costume and similar situation or even a lot of other female wear such as leggings often will show that 'extra skin' down there.

Just my notion on the subject,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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LifeInNeon

I'd pass. I have no problem with my genitals as they are now; transition for me was about the rest of my body more than that. The source of my body dysphoria was (and is) my face and chest (I had gynecomastia. At 140 lbs, it was pretty clear those weren't pecs under my shirt). I'm still looking forward to taking care of the former, and I am sooo glad I didn't take care of the latter last year when I was pricing out male mastectomy.

I am still comfortable using my penis. Sex for me is about fun and sharing something intense with a partner. The reason I want SRS is simply because I want a vagina more than my penis. Since it can't be used for reproduction (and I've already banked all the sperm I'll ever bother with), my only concern with SRS is whether or not it does what I need to for sex. So I describe SRS as a want and not a need, but with a very clear caveat:

When I started transition, that, too, was a want and not a need. I decided I wanted this for myself and decided to do something about it. It was only after I started that I realized just how deep my need for it really ran; I had been in denial so long it was comfortable again but I wasn't happy. I can't say whether the same will happen for SRS. It may very well be that in the back of my mind this is a more powerful need than I am willing to acknowledge simply to avoid the depression over my economic situation.

Shrug.

But if it didn't do what I needed it to do and was overly complicated and risky to boot? Hell no. Not worth it. Orchie, yes; the less T the better. Vaginoplasty? Not worth it; my drive may be lower, but I definitely still enjoy sex way too much to want to lose the capacity completely.
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Jamie Nicole

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 26, 2011, 01:21:14 PM
I have no plans for srs at all.

As if a surgical represenation of whats in my pants defines me. It doesn't.

i fully support others following their dreams.

I'm curious why you have no plans for SRS/GRS/GCS?  is it fear of going under? finances?
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Jamie Nicole on October 27, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
I'm curious why you have no plans for SRS/GRS/GCS?  is it fear of going under? finances?

SRS/Gras isn't a cure for transsexualism and I am more than my sum of parts. I am not gonna drop 20-50k for something only me and some man can see. My transition was never about my genitals. Plus, I love my penis. It is what god gave me.

If you don't approve...I don't care.

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Jamie Nicole

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
SRS/Gras isn't a cure for transsexualism and I am more than my sum of parts. I am not gonna drop 20-50k for something only me and some man can see. My transition was never about my genitals. Plus, I love my penis. It is what god gave me.

If you don't approve...I don't care.

hola! no need to go on the defensive, I was just wondering......I love your penis to...I got the perfect receptacle for it! lol
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Jamie Nicole on October 27, 2011, 05:14:25 PM
hola! no need to go on the defensive, I was just wondering......I love your penis to...I got the perfect receptacle for it! lol

Yeah, I am not a lesbian.

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Jamie Nicole

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 05:17:58 PM
Yeah, I am not a lesbian.

oh, now I'm confused.....u mind elaborating upon that thought?
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Jamie Nicole on October 27, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
oh, now I'm confused.....u mind elaborating upon that thought?

If I put my penis in your receptacle that would make me a lez. I'm only a college/spring break lez and even then it's with cis.
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Jamie Nicole

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 27, 2011, 05:25:46 PM
If I put my penis in your receptacle that would make me a lez. I'm only a college/spring break lez and even then it's with cis.

whoa.......now I'm really confused.............
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Mahsa Tezani

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Annah

not really confusing if you think about it. She's a non op heterosexual woman.
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