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I used to be ignorant

Started by Eve of chaos, November 08, 2011, 04:38:23 AM

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Eve of chaos

I was thinking the other day about why I never faced this when i was younger. and it occurred to me that I was so oblivious as a youth a to what a transsexual was. I decided to share this just to share it. I think its bizarre and cant believe i was actually this oblivious.

I was aware of the existence of transsexuals. I used to frequent porn sites and would occasionally see the links to "->-bleeped-<-" porn as they'd put it.
I remember being completely perplexed. i had no idea how these girls got penises. I assumed they were born with them or somehow these girls would go out and get penises.

the thing that i realized today was that I never once considered the possibility that those girls were born male. or were male at any point in their life.
I honestly dont know how I didnt think that was a possibility. but it truly never ran through my mind. I knew of sex changes. but it was the same thing. for some dumb reason i thought regular males went out and got vaginas. I didnt consider that they changed the rest of their bodies.

I honest to whatever higher power you believe in never thought of the possibility that someone could change their appearance to look more like the opposite gender they were born into.

and then one day when my longing to be a girl got so extreme I actually looked it up. and thats when this all truly started.

am i the only one who was this ignorant?

Chloe

Quote from: Eve of Chaos on November 08, 2011, 04:38:23 AMand then one day when my longing to be a girl got so extreme I actually looked it up. and thats when this all truly started.

Ditto! Yup Yup! That's usually how it happens . . . who actually reads Library BOOKS now-a-days?


My "enlightenment" was finding and reading Nancy Hunt's Mirror Image in the early eighties . . .

"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Inanna

Eve, that is exactly how it was for me.  I had heard of sex changes, but my brain subconsciously filtered it out as random gibberish.  Why?  I have no idea.  I certainly wanted to be a girl and dreamed about it quite often.  A huge missing piece of my knowledge was hormones.  If I had known about hormones as a young teen, I would have moved heaven and earth to obtain them. 

I guess I thought of changing sex like flying or telekinesis or telepathy -- incredibly awesome if possible but sadly not.  In high school, I even wrote a story about a character that drink some potion and became a girl... completely oblivious to this little thing called "estrogen".  :laugh:
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Maya Zimmerman

My history of trans ignorance:

I found out about a woman who transitioned in my hometown when I was 12 or so.  My friend's mom worked with her and told me about everything she went through before surgery and I was definitely intrigued, but I had already recognized how my family reacted to my gender variant behavior as a little kid, so I kind of just pushed it aside.  Then, when I was 16 or so, I remember there being a big case where the defendant was a trans woman and I brought up the notion of a "sex change" (not for me, just the existence of it) to my parents, who scoffed that such a person would always still be a man and couldn't ever feel sex, which still didn't make me not want to do it.  I just had to wait until I was independent and also wanted to experience the sensation of sex at least once first.  Then, there's the whole mess of people who kept telling me that trans women were just gay men who were trying to make their homosexuality "normal".  I bought into it and kept thinking that maybe I was somehow tricking myself into thinking I was attracted to women because I didn't want to be gay, which still didn't make sense because I was in the gay circle of friends in high school.  Anyway, a lot of these notions got all mixed up in my head for way too long.  High school was also a mess because a lot of grunge musicians were wearing dresses, but in such a way that they were clearly men wearing dresses.  Trans women visually existed only as drag queens from what I had been told.  I just wanted to be a normal girl.  I'd wear barrettes sometimes and shave my legs sometimes and felt like I just didn't fit in, like I wasn't enough of a social misfit to do something like that; or like other people were doing weird things to evoke a reaction from people and I just wanted to look cute.  I distinctly recall when I was 19, complaining for quite some time to a friend of mine that I just wanted to be a normal girl and that that just wasn't a thing and I was so mad!  Then, we went shopping and I bought a nice plain skirt that I was too afraid to wear and just kind of tried to get by from there in romantic relationships with women and musical relationships with men.

Almost a decade later, I was doing research on chromosomal variance for the sex portion of a series of essays I was writing on Sex, Drugs, and Religion.  I was so disappointed that the descriptions of typical side-effects, such as sterility, meant that I almost certainly did not have a chromosomal imbalance.  But then, I was led into finding out about what transsexuality really is and was completely floored.  Holy ->-bleeped-<-!  That's me!  Then, I spent a couple of years slowly coming out to a few people and dealing with a massive amount of everything being terrible and then it was now and then I don't know what happened.
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Maya Zimmerman

#4
One little side note:  After regaling all that, I think I just understood something that stuck with me for a long time and never really quite made sense.  The first time I shaved my legs in high school, some of my guy friends had found out and decided to call attention to it in my Shakespeare class.  Now, our Shakespeare professor was a quick wit and seemed to take pleasure in taking the boys in class down a peg.  So, I just kind of cringed there because I was all ready for him to make fun of me (which he had done on several occasions in the past), but he said, "So what?  I shaved my entire body when I was performing in The King and I!  There's nothing wrong with it!".  At the time and for so long afterward, I thought he was just being nice because I looked uncomfortable, but now I wonder if he, as an adult, understood what I was trying to deal with.
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toxicblue

Ignorance is exactly the reason that I'm transitioning at 19 and not earlier. I first heard about someone transitioning from male to female or female to male somewhere between the ages of 9 and 11 when a trans guy was on Oprah. Instantly at that moment I knew I wanted to be a girl. But as I got older, I thought transgender people were weird crossdressers. I never once knew anything about hormones or changing your voice. One day however I was bored on youtube and decided to see if I could talk like a girl, then i was exposed to the whole transgender issue thing, and i was like Holy crap this is possible?

And that's how it all started.
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Mahsa Tezani

I'm happy with what side of the transline I identify with now, because so many of them here are geeks and nerds. I have lots of porn stars on my fb list...they are really awesome people.

Glad I'm a transgender performer as well.. Being one of the lovely ladies of SF

Rather be that stereotype than the dungeon dragon computer geek.
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Chloe

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 09, 2011, 12:06:25 AMRather be that stereotype than the dungeon dragon computer geek.

Whoa! Just a minute! You can't even know "dungeon dragon" unless you've actually played "Zork" via a "TRS80" modem connected to the original MIT mainframe8)

lol Yer ALL Ignorant 'ave NO CLUE what ya's already missed!
"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Kiera on November 09, 2011, 12:19:32 AM
Whoa! Just a minute! You can't even know "dungeon dragon" unless you've actually played it via a "TRS80" modem connected to the original MIT mainframe8)

lol Yer ALL Ignorant 'ave NO CLUE what ya's already missed!

It's really awesome you're proud that I don't know that. Awesome for me...Like you don't even know how awesome that is.

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Eve of chaos

Its true though. if I had known about hormones and how everything actually works. and what transsexualism is when I was at least a teenager I wouldve begun a long time ago.

I distinctly remember one night. I was probably a freshmen in HS. I was sitting at the computer late at night on AIM or something and my longing to be a girl had kicked in again. I thought about looking it up. I truly did but I stopped myself because I thought that the second I did it would be an option.

I didnt think of the possibilities of it all. I was genuinely too afraid of the repercussions and thought I could hide from it.

and now its my biggest regret. If I would've just looked it up I would've learned.

blagh

Medusa

Exactly ignorance and after puberty also disgusted at my body

I wanted girls body (vagina, I wasn't really interested at breasts) from age like 14, I heard about some operation which turns penis inside out, but I hate my look so much that I don't realize that I already look like a girl
I was really sad from me until 23 when one CD I know tell me that I look so girly and I can be really nice girl, it was the breaking point.
IMVU: MedusaTheStrange
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