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Can we add a drag queen forum?

Started by Mahsa Tezani, November 14, 2011, 04:37:18 PM

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cynthialee

Quote from: Jen61 on November 14, 2011, 08:39:38 PM
I say No, Drag queens are not transgender folks, they are cis males who make a life inpersonating females. Where we do stop ? If we give a forum to drag queesn, then how about ->-bleeped-<- prostitue forum, a she-male forum, ->-bleeped-<- dog forum, etc

Jen61
Last I checked all those people you list are also gender non conforming and as such they should theoreticaly be welcome here on Susans.
I suppose if we had a sizable ->-bleeped-<- sub group looking for a forum they might get it.
Susans tends to be inclusive not exclusionary.

;)

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Annah

i see no issues whatsoever for a drag queen forum. However, the big questions is: will it ever be used?
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: cynthialee on November 14, 2011, 10:16:21 PM


**whats a ->-bleeped-<- dog?**

My dog's gender is male despite his orchidectomy.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Annah on November 14, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
i see no issues whatsoever for a drag queen forum. However, the big questions is: will it ever be used?

See all the replies in the fashion forums? Like that but more.... Imagine gay men all over this site.
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V M

Uhhh, huhuhuh, you said ->-bleeped-<- dogRawr!!! I want a ->-bleeped-<- dog!!!
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Mahsa Tezani

The fabulous meter is through the roof.



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eli77

I think it would be cool if they did, but would drag queens actually want to come here? I thought they generally identified more with the gay community, and had spaces on gay forums. Same reasons butch girls and genderqueer lesbians don't show up in trans communities very much.
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

::) I thought we already had drag queens in the forum ...

Metta Zenda :)
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Beth Andrea

Re: a drag forum, I'd certainly be reading it when new posts happened...being performers, DQ's probably have a lot of info/suggestions on how to tuck (esp other or unusual methods), etc.

DK's might have useful info for the FTM's, too.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 14, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
Re: a drag forum, I'd certainly be reading it when new posts happened...being performers, DQ's probably have a lot of info/suggestions on how to tuck (esp other or unusual methods), etc.

DK's might have useful info for the FTM's, too.

I know how to tuck. do makeup, etc I am a transgender performer...
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Mika

I think that'd be cool.

Also, not all drag queens conceptualize that identity as solely performance/entertainment. Drag queen is a gender identity for some people of color, whether or not that entails performance. It could also be a chance to include terms that aren't White-centric.
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Julie Marie

Drag is performance, entertainment.  It's not a life, a lifestyle or beyond normative behavior anymore than dressing up like a clown is.  Yes, there are some transgender people who go into drag and there are also some gay men who do it and some straight non-trans men who do it.  But it's still entertainment and, for many, a job and/or a business.

There are also transgender people who go into IT and pass very well, certainly a much higher percentage than those who go into drag.  Maybe we should have an IT section?

If DQs want to post here, they are more than welcome to and there are certainly enough places to post anything their hearts desire.  If someone here wants to start a thread dedicated to drag art, there's nothing stopping them.  As far as makeup tips and tricks, anyone choosing to learn how to pass from a drag queen will be clocked in a second.

And anyone looking for information about drag queens can easily find it on the Internet.  I don't see what benefit there would be to having a drag section that will just be redundant to what's available on the Internet and would use up bandwidth on Susan's unnecessarily.

BTW: I Googled "drag queen" and this is what came up on the first page.

   
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xxUltraModLadyxx

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 15, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
Drag is performance, entertainment.  It's not a life, a lifestyle or beyond normative behavior anymore than dressing up like a clown is.  Yes, there are some transgender people who go into drag and there are also some gay men who do it and some straight non-trans men who do it.  But it's still entertainment and, for many, a job and/or a business.

There are also transgender people who go into IT and pass very well, certainly a much higher percentage than those who go into drag.  Maybe we should have an IT section?

If DQs want to post here, they are more than welcome to and there are certainly enough places to post anything their hearts desire.  If someone here wants to start a thread dedicated to drag art, there's nothing stopping them.  As far as makeup tips and tricks, anyone choosing to learn how to pass from a drag queen will be clocked in a second.

And anyone looking for information about drag queens can easily find it on the Internet.  I don't see what benefit there would be to having a drag section that will just be redundant to what's available on the Internet and would use up bandwidth on Susan's unnecessarily.

BTW: I Googled "drag queen" and this is what came up on the first page.

   

then i searched transsexual. the only word i put in was transsexual.



this was one of the many pics on the first page that were not of women in a modest looking dress baking a cake.
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Mahsa Tezani

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xxUltraModLadyxx

Quote from: Elle Hollywood 90210 on November 15, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
OMG. None of those women look like nerds! How dare you!!! :)

so then i just searched the word woman, and then i saw a woman popping a chili pepper out her mouth and winking. looking like sex. it isn't like we don't all have stereotypes  ::)
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: FullMoon19 on November 15, 2011, 01:33:24 PM
so then i just searched the word woman, and then i saw a woman popping a chili pepper out her mouth and winking. looking like sex. it isn't like we don't all have stereotypes  ::)

Yeah cuz most people think this:


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eli77

Far too flattering. Most people think balding 40-year-old bloke in a bad wig and a dress from the 1950s. :P

If they think of us at all, which they mostly don't.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Sarah7 on November 15, 2011, 03:28:21 PM
Far too flattering. Most people think balding 40-year-old bloke in a bad wig and a dress from the 1950s. :P

If they think of us at all, which they mostly don't.

Really? I think of nerds becoming women...nothing wrong with that.
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xxUltraModLadyxx

i was pretty nerdy before i transitioned. i had no glasses, but i did lots of research on a bunch of stuff no kids my age were even focused on, but i also have asperger's, so i do have a nerdy research obsessed side. of course, what else is their to do when you can't do the stuff the other girls are doing that you secretly like, but being a boy just sucks and is very limiting? you could transition (provided you've built the backbone,) become obsessed with some hobby and socially withdraw so you retreat from socially sanctioned gender as much as possible (which is what i did,) then i hear some who have done drugs/alcohol, but i never could've done it being so young and just not believing it. i also daydreamed alot more with my imagination of being the female self i was lacking irl. i also ate alot just because the dopamine helped, so that's what happens, it becomes impossible to be completely independent of dependency. eating a meal was really a highlight of my days.
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