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The Moon Landing(s) are a Fraud

Started by Princess of Hearts, November 23, 2011, 06:57:55 PM

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Pica Pica

Quote from: _Mango_ on November 23, 2011, 07:18:34 PM
I just full mooned the waxing gibbius moon. Top that.

I waxed a mooning gibbon...on Earth's secret second moon where the cybermen live.... consider yourself topped.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Devlyn

I bet a dollar at some point we hear "Thank you all for participating. You're all cattle being fattened up for some corporations enjoyment." Bet you another dollar I just ruined her opportunity!
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Amazon D

We are being  fattened up for the aliens who will soon visit us and take the ripest plumpest people for food for their starving planet
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Devlyn

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Princess of Hearts

The real reason why Nasa etc has never gone back to the moon is because even with 21st century technology a manned moon landing is still  impossible from a scientific and technical perspective.   What happened was that Armstrong et al were sent into a low earth orbit where they remained for the duration of the so called journey to the moon and the moon landing itself.   What was broadcast were filmed training simulations, a full performance dress rehearsal if you will.   Nasa controlled the television feed and the networks complained of the dark, grainy and very ghostly images they were being fed.   Even by late '60s television technology the broadcast images were very poor.

Check out the Van Allen radiation belts.   Even in low earth orbit astronauts and even those on the space shuttle have complained about flashes in their eyes even when their eyes where shut.   These flashes are caused by lowish level radiation.   The radiation in the Van Allan belts - which the Apollo missions all had to fly through is so high that even a very short exposure proves fatal.    The only way that those Apollo rockets could have travelled through the Van Allan belts would have been if the rockets had of had lead shields 6 feet of more thick throughout the entire length and breadth of the rocket.    Had they been able to build a rocket to this specification it would never have got off the ground, being far too heavy and requiring a huge amount of power to provide the necessary gravitational escape velocity.

Also think of the political and economic situation that existed in 1960s America.    Race riots,  Civil rights, KKK, Vietnam, assassination of Kennedy, and his brother along with Martin Luther King.     The horrors of Vietnam, and the beatings of blacks in the South were being broadcast daily throughout the world.   America was nearing turmoil at home and her reputation abroad was being severely damaged.     However, the idea that the archest of America's arch enemies the Soviet Union were streets ahead in the space was utterly intolerable to the Washington elite and the Military-Industrial complex.  America had to do something, but what?

To be honest I think that Nasa did set out genuinely to find away to in JFK's words 'send a man to the moon and returned him safely again to earth before this decade is out.'  However, they soon discovered that the brightest scientists and engineers in the country had not the slightest idea how to go about doing this.   This realisation was the start of what eventually became the great moon landing fraud.

Critics have repeatedly said, ' okay let's forget about the radiation for a moment.   Why were there no stars visible in the footage of the entire moon landing?   After all there is no  atmosphere on the moon the stars ought to have been beautifully clear, yet not only was there not a single star to be seen the astronauts themselves are on record saying that they never saw a single star while on the moon.    Speaking of that moon atmosphere, why is the American flag seen several times fluttering and waving on a number of occasions, when there are NO winds to blow it?'

What about the complete absence of a blast crater at the landing site?   What about the fact that during take-off from the moon the astronauts voices are clearly heard from the cockpit when they were only a couple of feet away from a rocket engine during blast off?  There are many other anomalies.

As this explanation could run to hundred of pages, let me sum it up.   Washington and the business and political elite shocked and humiliated by the success of their ideological arch enemy the Soviet Union,and haunted by the horrors of Vietnam and the savage treatment of blacks in the South being broadcast around the world on a daily basis decided something had to be done, something on an epic scale to distract the domestic population from the seemingly endless catalogue of iniquities going on in American or being perpetrated in its name.  So intially they decided to dramatically say to the Soviet Union; ' we see your manned space flight and we'll raise you a space laboratory.'    That's right America's initial reaction to Gagarin and Titov's space flights was to build a space laboratory.   However, Werner Von Braun and the generals and plutocrats thought that this a rather weak response.   The Pentagon saw the possibilities inherent in militarising space and the business elite smelled massive profits from the space programme.   The generals hoped that a landing on the moon would be the start of a series of military moon bases from which America could threaten the Soviet Union!   However, when it was realised that landing on the moon was as practicable in the 1960s as it had been in the 1860s, they switched tactics and employed the 'if you can't make it then fake it attitude.   Although this was an extraordinary deception it still accomplished what the rulers wanted.  The public at home and abroad would be entranced and distracted by the Hollywood style glitz and glamour of the moon project, the plutocrats still got their obese contracts, and the Pentagon obtained massive funding for other projects, as the $7 billion awarded by Congress to the programme had to be spent and accounted for.

To end just imagine if Washington had admitted that it couldn't beat the Soviets in the space race?   The propaganda coup handed to the Russians would have been immense!   This would have been tantamount to Johnston and/or Nixon saying from the Oval Office that Soviet communism was superior to American 'can do' capitalism!!    I think America would have been finished as a nation had this happened.  What probably would have happened was that America would have fractured into countries along the South American model, and her power and prestige upon the world's stage would have been badly tarnished if not destroyed.
The 1960s moon show united the American people like nothing before or since, and ensured America's economic cultural and political dominance over the world for the last 40+ years.
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Annah

Happygirl, everything u stated has been debunked YEARS ago. You really need to do your research a lot more realistically if you expect anyone here to take you seriously. Because right now you are sorta making a clown out of yourself with debunked claims. Rather than trying to portray yourself as a free thinker, you have fallen into the trap of a blind sided devotee.
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Princess of Hearts

Do you think that the government is going to admit the truth?   Do you think Obama is going to come on television and say with a slight smirk. ' Yeah, the whole Apollo business was faked.   But hey it was 40 years ago so let's forgive and forget, huh?'

The fallout from such a revelation would actually be worse today then a confession would have been back in the early 70s.   Nasa has been aware of these beliefs for some time and they get their paid spokesmen to saying things 'we went too the moon, end of story'.   They also launch personal attacks 'well that guy is a bitter passed over scientist, what do you expect'.   Most people are so brain addled by the media that they don't know what to believe about anything, and as most people don't care to think, never mind read, they just go along with whatever they are told.   'We went too the moon, end of story', sure we did says Joe six-pack.

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Devlyn

Happy Girl, that is extremely offensive and genderphobic. You should have said Joe and Josephine Six Pack. Also, let's get one thing straight right now. The British have never been to the moon, this is just sour grapes. Hugs, Tracey
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Annah

Quote from: Happy Girl! on November 24, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
Do you think that the government is going to admit the truth?   Do you think Obama is going to come on television and say with a slight smirk. ' Yeah, the whole Apollo business was faked.   But hey it was 40 years ago so let's forgive and forget, huh?'

The fallout from such a revelation would actually be worse today then a confession would have been back in the early 70s.   Nasa has been aware of these beliefs for some time and they get their paid spokesmen to saying things 'we went too the moon, end of story'.   They also launch personal attacks 'well that guy is a bitter passed over scientist, what do you expect'.   Most people are so brain addled by the media that they don't know what to believe about anything, and as most people don't care to think, never mind read, they just go along with whatever they are told.   'We went too the moon, end of story', sure we did says Joe six-pack.

You are certainly entitled to whatever u wanna believe in.

If you wanna believe that the evil america planted transitor radios and tracking devices under your skin then you go right on thinking that.

Have fun in your paranoia
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_Mango_

Quote from: Pica Pica on November 24, 2011, 03:50:46 PM
I waxed a mooning gibbon...on Earth's secret second moon where the cybermen live.... consider yourself topped.

..with sprinkles!
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Sandy

Quote from: Happy Girl! on November 23, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
Sorry but America fooled the world back in 1969.    Those Nasa, and White House cold warriors cruelly and in an extremely cynical manner defrauded the world.  Their purpose was to establish America's  world hegemony.   The whole thing is slowly but surely unravelling, and the terrible truth will be revealed.

I wonder how the world will react to this?   Will Europe and the English speaking countries turn their backs on America?   How will the American man or women in the street cope with the huge psychological fall-out from this?   Perhaps the reason why people won't look at the astonishing and compelling evidence fear that they might go mad if they do.   It is extremely sobering to put it mildly!    I remember being absolutely chilled when I discovered the facts about those Apollo missions and I am an anarchist.   I thought that I could no longer be shocked by the actions of governments, I was wrong.    You have to face up to it though, terrible as it undoubtedly is, because people need to wake up and see governments for the mercenary predatory 'gangster' corporations that they are.   The Federal government has sold you, your children, your grandchildren, and your great-grandchildren into debt slavery, and yet you go on supporting these people?   Americans will be shocked to the core when they realise the extent of the mendacity perpetrated by the Military-industrial complex, who were determined at all costs to beat the Soviets into space and claim leadership of the world.  A leadership that still exists to this day.

Ok where to begin...

Nah...

Well, there are just too many holes in this particular argument that mere facts will obviously not change your mind.

However I would point out to you that Yuri Gagarin was the first human into space, and if you did read your immaculately researched books, you might have picked up on that one minor fact.

The Soviet Union also sent the first satellite in space as well with Sputnik.

They also sent the first woman into orbit, Valentina Tereshkova.

Also the first lunar flyby with Luna 1.

And the first permanent space station flew a Soviet Hammer and Sickle.

The first and only moon landings were American at the cost of about $10 billion 1967 dollars each.  About $100-$150 bln in today's stagflated currency.

About the only hoax was in Stanley Kubick's 1969 movie "2001" in which the ape scenes did NOT get a nomination for an Academy award for best special makeup effect because the academy thought they were REALLY APES!  The award went instead to the other monkey movie with Charlton Heston, "Planet of the Apes" (which was so bad they had to make 6 more and 2 remakes).

Now I won't have too much to argue with you about the state of the economy.  Even in the 1960's the deficit was staggering.  A time I  believe you never lived in but I did.

But if you insist you are an anarchist, you really should be less of a sheep.  Most anarchists that I know are quite independent intellectuals.  You simply parrot crap that is easily refuted with the simplest google searches.

And that is all I will say about that.

-Sandy

BTW: Spell check still requires thoughtful use.  I think the term you wanted was discuss, not discus.
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Amy85

Quote from: Jen61 on November 24, 2011, 09:19:06 AM
Demoted to Captain ! Oh no ! you evil girl, you ruin my thanksgiving, now I am going to get indegestion

It's ok. I think he wanted to get demoted, really. He didn't seem happy when he was stuck at a desk. His place really was in the Captain's chair.
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

::) There are gullible people and there are gullible people and more gullible people.....

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Princess of Hearts

Tracy raises an interesting point.   I am not American so I obviously don't have to cope with national pride issues the way Americans do.    The whole moon fraud business is so intricate, so deep and involved that most people just don't  want to know.   

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Pica Pica

Quote from: Laura91 on November 24, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
But most people ARE cattle (or sheep..pick yer animal).

It doesn't take much prodding to convince people to do most things. All you need to do is repeat something the appropriate number of times and people will go along with it without a second thought.

You have never worked in a school, I presume.

'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Devlyn

Happy girl, you missed my point. Let's view this from another angle. I have seen images on TV, very high quality video of a feat so incredible, so mind boggling that it couldn't be true. Yet the English people claim (snicker) to have drilled a "Chunnel" through twenty miles of chalk, underwater of all places. We are led to believe you can drive through this twenty mile soaking wet chalk wormhole and arrive safely in another land. It all sounds quite incredible to me. Hugs, Tracey
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apple pie

The real ultimate truth is... ;)

"The moon landing never happened" theory was concocted by the US government so that all other nations would henceforth underestimate the technological prowess of the country
But unfortunately it totally backfired as the authorities underestimated the intelligence of most US citizens

However, the CIA continued to create books and start up web sites, deliberately made to look crude so as to not arouse suspicion, to try to keep the theory alive, in the hope that the theory would eventually be accepted
Those who have been duped by the CIA's books and web sites, commonly called the conspiracy theorists, are in fact the ones who are being manipulated by the US government

Happy girl, stop being duped by the government!!
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Bishounen

Quote from: apple pie on November 25, 2011, 08:54:50 AM
The real ultimate truth is... ;)

"The moon landing never happened" theory was concocted by the US government so that all other nations would henceforth underestimate the technological prowess of the country
But unfortunately it totally backfired as the authorities underestimated the intelligence of most US citizens

However, the CIA continued to create books and start up web sites, deliberately made to look crude so as to not arouse suspicion, to try to keep the theory alive, in the hope that the theory would eventually be accepted
Those who have been duped by the CIA's books and web sites, commonly called the conspiracy theorists, are in fact the ones who are being manipulated by the US government

Happy girl, stop being duped by the government!!


And there, yet another conspiracy stuck up its muddy nose from the hole.
Regardless of what fantasies tinfoil-hats kooks up together, it is apparently never brought on by themselves and they are never ever responsible for them, but its always the big bad American Government that is responsible, huh?

Actually, the Governemt don't have to even utter a word to fill people with silliness, as all the World's fluffballs manage to kook up the wildest stuff just fine all by themselves, together with their followers that badly wants something to be angry at so that they can blame everyone else except themselves for their own shortcommings.
In short, The whole responsibility rests on the tinhats alone and no-one else.

This blaming "the Governemt" on exactly everything that people believes in and do, regardless of what the belief and doings consists of, is terribly worn out. ::)

Stop being duped by tinfoil-hats.
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apple pie

Quote from: Bishounen on November 25, 2011, 09:12:04 AM

And there, yet another conspiracy stuck up its muddy nose from the hole.
Regardless of what fantasies tinfoil-hats kooks up together, it is apparently never brought on by themselves and they are never ever responsible for them, but its always the big bad American Government that is responsible, huh?

Actually, the Governemt don't have to even utter a word to fill people with silliness, as all the World's fluffballs manage to kook up the wildest stuff just fine all by themselves, together with their followers that badly wants something to be angry at so that they can blame everyone else except themselves for their own shortcommings.
In short, The whole responsibility rests on the tinhats alone and no-one else.

This blaming "the Governemt" on exactly everything that people believes in and do, regardless of what the belief and doings consists of, is terribly worn out. ::)

Stop being duped by tinfoil-hats.

::) Relax, it's just my new hobby http://xkcd.com/966/
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Bishounen

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