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Can they fix depth and other stuff post-op?

Started by Sandy2012, December 12, 2011, 01:42:40 AM

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lilacwoman

Sandy  are you sure that the little hole you thought you had poked through wasn't just the tightness of the big muscle?   It is seriously tight and does feel like a hole through the lining. I have no hole a lot of the time and especially each morning but at evening it relaxes ready for dilating.  beyond the muscle is the full length waiting you.

hard to imagine you putting your finger through skin anyway.

Have you called the surgeon's office to check notes to see what depth was put on your surgery notes?
Hard to imagine a reputable surgeon would attempt a full srs if there really was little to work with and have the state medical licence and insurance to think about.

Any chance you could go to a well-womans clinic for a quick check?
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Re: Joyce

Sandy, you've just had 3 post-op women tell you things that you don't want to hear--it hurts to dilate, dilation is part of the post-op healing process and the less you dilate, the more it hurts.

      I'm going to really tick you off by telling you that I don't believe it will make any difference who does anything further to you surgically, you're going to have to dilate, it's really going to hurt and if you're not willing to do that, then don't do any more.   I've heard this music from the choir a LOT.

       I'd be willing to bet that the little hole you poked your finger into was your vagina and there's more to it than you think.

       The best thing to do is to book a followup with Dr. Bowers so she can see what's going on. 

       I cried when I had to dilate, I cannot describe the intense pain it brought to me.  I was directed to do it 5 times a day by Dr. McGinn, so I sucked it up and endured the pain.  This only lasted a few months and finally it got easier.

       I'm at 9 months and my pain is extremely slight when first going in now and only lasts maybe 10 seconds.  After that, there is no further discomfort.

       You appear to continue to try to coach others to tell you what you want to hear.  The 3 of us who have lived it will not do that.  It is what it is and it's painful and time-consuming.  But that is short lived.  The things that we prize the most are the things that cost us the most to get.  I'm not always talking money when I say this.  My own vajayjay is a very prized part of me.   It's wonderful, it's natural and it's very pleasurable.  I'm very proud of it and I'm extremely proud that I can now pass in the shower with the other girls and I can provide what every man wants. 

        Start today by putting a very clean, well lubricated finger inside of you and begin to stretch yourself out.  You are probably feeling the "ring" of scar tissue that connects your inside to your outside.  I know of other post-ops who said that dilating too little made it hurt more and when it hurts, the cure is to do it more often, for longer periods.

        I use the largest one of your tools everyday and I never use the smaller ones.  They're too small for me, but there was a time when they were too big...

        I wish you all the best.  I have walked in your shoes.
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jenn90210

sandy
given the fact that u had very little to work with u shouldn't have gone to bowers, i've heard she has a bad reputation.
u should consider now colon vaginoplasty. if i was u i'd check out other drs with better reputation like suporn.




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Sandy2012

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 13, 2011, 09:56:24 AM
Sandy  are you sure that the little hole you thought you had poked through wasn't just the tightness of the big muscle?   It is seriously tight and does feel like a hole through the lining. I have no hole a lot of the time and especially each morning but at evening it relaxes ready for dilating.  beyond the muscle is the full length waiting you.

hard to imagine you putting your finger through skin anyway.

Have you called the surgeon's office to check notes to see what depth was put on your surgery notes?
Hard to imagine a reputable surgeon would attempt a full srs if there really was little to work with and have the state medical licence and insurance to think about.

Any chance you could go to a well-womans clinic for a quick check?

My previous, um, parts, the donor material, was really, really small.  I had absolutely no need to tuck as it was usually retracted up inside me like a clitoris.  When Marci examined me the day before surgery her words were "Oh my. Hmmmm...  Um, well, we don't have much to work with here.  This may be a problem."
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Sandy2012

Quote from: ananicole on December 13, 2011, 11:55:22 PM
sandy
given the fact that u had very little to work with u shouldn't have gone to bowers, i've heard she has a bad reputation.
u should consider now colon vaginoplasty. if i was u i'd check out other drs with better reputation like suporn.

There is absolutely no way I'm going to Thailand.
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lilacwoman

the surgeon should have advised she could only do a cosmetic slit with a clitoris which is what the first surgeon told me.  second one said yep, no way a vagina except by colovaginoplasty.  so I said yes please.

colovag is not good but what else can we do in these situations?

I'm not sure if deepening by using a skin graft will offer anything useful or not.   we need input from someone who has had one.

but as I've had skin grafts for old accident I have to say you'd end up with the big scars like the FtMs get from using arm skin etc.

I don't see why they can't take two long strips off lower stomach and leave them attached to stay alive, stitch them together to make a tube, invert it so bloody side is out and will bond with flesh of vagina incision,  and make a lining from them.  should stay alive and bond quickly but need tidying/cosmetic work after a couple of weeks or so.
two or even three stage op but would produce a lining with good feelings and survival and make size as big as possible.
just needs a surgeon and client willing to try the op.

the donor sites could be lessened by latticing the skin and stretching it over the sites.


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Re: Joyce

This is another example of doing a consultation in-person with a surgeon before setting a date for surgery.  This was a fairly firm requirement of Dr. McGinn and I was very happy to comply.

      She checked me out physically and took photos so she had a reference point.

      Showing up for surgery and doing the initial consultation the day before hardly allows you enough time to research the different options available if there are potential problems.  There are not only size issues, but overall health and circulation issues to consider.   If the Dr. doesn't see you until the last minute, this only increases the odds of making a poor choice on both party's part.

        You only get one chance to do this once and it's pretty important.  This is a serious consideration in selecting a surgeon. 

        I wanted reasonably close to home for this reason, plus if something happens post-op, I can get back to them for after care. 

       Not everyone is a good candidate for this.  Dr. McGinn did a pretty thorough job of not only screening me, but also clearly communicating to me, in detail, what all would happen, what all could happen and what all I'd have to do on my part.  She told me there would be considerable pain and that it would be over a year to recover completely from the operation.

       This is not for the weak or the faint of heart.  :)
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Suigeniris

I agree I would consult with Dr.McGinn , she was my surgeon and I have to say she has been nothing short of Amazing as far as  details about the surgery and what can be achieved ,results ,sensation , info ,and post op care .
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Re: Joyce

I did not mean to suggest Dr. McGinn as a possible surgeon to fix her problem.  I only brought up the concept of a consultation well in advance of the date of surgery for anyone contemplating GCS.

      Many of the difficulties I've heard about concerning GCS might have been avoided entirely if consultations had been done in this manner, as opposed to the last minute.  What is any patient supposed to say when they have surgery scheduled for the next day and the Dr. says, "Oh, I don't know about this"????   I'm certain that many Drs. might also perform some surgeries that they might otherwise decline to perform in these same situations.

       I can say without hesitation that Dr. McGinn is very clear right from the get-go regarding dilating 5 times a day, every day for the first 8 weeks.  At that point, the hard part is over (yeah, right), then it's only 3 times a day for weeks 9 through 24, then once every day without fail until a full year has passed.    That's dilating 805 times in that first year.  I know of no other surgeon who requires this much maintenance on the part of their patients.

       Most McGinn Girls will swear by her allegiance to her patients and her deep, caring attitude for them.  Yet, on the other hand, I also hear of potential patients who say that she barely would give them the time of day and was virtually rude to them.  I believe that the patient's maturity level or attitude toward this rigorous schedule and her other incredibly tough demands (yes, dilating so often is only one of her demands, there are many others) affects what she says and does. 

      She looked me in the eye in our consultation and told me that she's all military in her approach and if I wasn't ready to follow all of her orders without question, that I should walk out her door and forget about hiring her.  I told her that was the reason I was there.  I wanted a surgeon who would do that.  I was not there to dilly dally around...   

       This procedure is not for the faint of heart.  It's not a little lark adventure.  It is a life-altering challenge of your spirit.  It is like the challenge of climbing a mountain.  It separates out those who are determined and have the guts to see it through from those who are not.  Far too many people think they want this, when the truth is they lack the courage, conviction and fortitude to do it.   Why else would I hear so many stories directly from the surgeons themselves about patients who left for home as soon as they could walk to a plane after surgery?  Clearly, these unfortunate people found out too late that they were not ready for the pain and discomfort of the whole thing.   They wanted to have surgery Monday and go home and ride a cowboy on Saturday night.   

       I provide this information for anyone and everyone contemplating this procedure.  The United States Armed Forces has different branches of special forces units, such as the Army Rangers or the Navy Seals.  If you ask any of the trainers of a new class how many of these new applicants will graduate from the training, they'll give you a look of steel and reply, "as many as want to".  That training takes you to the edge and tests your will.

       I would never liken GCS to that training, for that would be disrespectful.  But, I will say the concept is somewhat similar.  GCS itself, the immediate pain from the operation and the subsequent difficulties and pain that must be overcome, both physical and emotional, will separate those who really and truly want it with all their heart from those who don't.

        I would expect little disagreement from you or most other successful post-op women who've climbed the mountain themselves.  It truly separates the women from the boys.   ;D
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Suigeniris

I agree with everything you have said Joyce .  and aside from that she is a very skilled surgeon so IIIII not you lol  recommend that she call Dr.Mcginn for a consult  .
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noeleena

Hi , Sandy

If all else fails go to Phuket & see Dr Sanguan  He ll fix most things with out ?   As i can atteast to ,
I was there & saw some of the things he did & check my Testimonial

As to here n N Z iv seen some of the botched surgery & one had to be compleatly redone because of said botch up & was not repaired here in N Z .

I knew Sanguan could do it & was done just after i was  over there  ,

Any way if you need info or help just email me ,

noeleens@clear.net.nz

...noeleena...
Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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jade

Usually for failed initial surgeries, surgeons suggest colovaginoplasty as a secondary procedure.

However, on Dr. Harold Reed's website there is a new technique he used with a few patients who had lost their depth and width(?) and they have been dilating fine and they have been successful with penetration.

And by the way, I realise you feel unkeen about overseas travel but if you do change your mind, Dr. Kunaporn is a good surgeon.

Dr. Suporn does not accept repair jobs...

I hope it all works out for you and wish you lots of healing

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AbraCadabra

I second Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn at PIH.
He has taken on many a 'repair job' as I'm told (even from SA!) He also did a fine SRS job for me.

Axelle
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