Types of Gender Therapy

[stldrmgrl]

And if a person is genuinely TS/TG then a faster better test period would be to say trying crossdressing and socialising with the group/milieu that seems most appealing and natural.

Saying "do this" or "do that" is certainly no way to successfully allow someone to discover what is right for them.  I can only envision that the possibility of further confusion, panic, less confidence and less self-esteem would result from this; and sure, perhaps by a blessing it could lead them on the correct path, but doing something for someone does not present the opportunity for them to learn and develop it on their own.  Furthermore, the OP has already commented on this matter; re-read the thread.

Depending on the age of the person the HRT time may set them to an unnatural choice of presentation

A low dose of hormone replacement therapy for a limited time will certainly not cause any issues in terms of presentation.

... will make many people experience feelings of LBGTGness that are based on the pheromone laden atmosphere triggering same-sex attraction rather than because their brains are set to TGness.

  Please.

[lilacwoman]

convents and boys schools is proof of the pudding.


lots of people don't like to admit this.

[stldrmgrl]

Proof of what?  Homosexuality exists, we know that.  Nothing new and ground breaking there.  Not every student who attends a same-sex school is there because they're homosexual, nor do all students within such a school "become" homosexual.  Furthermore, claiming that someone [who may not suffer from GID] taking hormones will all the sudden alter their sexual orientation to homosexual is absolutely unfounded and ridiculous.

[lilacwoman]

I didn't say everyone was homosexual.

I didn't say someone taking hormones will alter their sexual orientation.   I said 'may'.

I did say there is massive proof that convents and boys schools breed homosexuals.

what upsets you so much about facts?

[stldrmgrl]

I didn't say everyone was homosexual.

Neither did I.

I didn't say someone taking hormones will alter their sexual orientation.   I said 'may'.

You are treading in dangerous waters if you intend to present this claim as factual.  Without scientific evidence supporting this claim, as far as I am concerned the link between sexual orientation and hormones is non-existent; it's merely coincidental.  Giving a homosexual male testosterone will not alter his sexual orientation to heterosexual; and likewise giving a homosexual woman estrogen will not alter her sexual orientation to heterosexual.  I find it completely absurd to even suggest such.

Homosexuality, I believe, is instilled at birth, much like I believe transsexualism is.  If you consider an analogy I've used before, and think of transsexualism and homosexuality as an egg, you will find that arguing "why does it take so long for individuals to realize it," is merely a matter of the right "trigger" in life causing the egg to hatch.  So yes, perhaps hormones are the trigger for certain individuals, but by no means do the hormones "erase and rewrite" that person's sexual orientation.

I did say there is massive proof that convents and boys schools breed homosexuals.

Statistics show that an enormous amount of the employee population of Walt Disney World are those within the LGBT community; what's your point?  Just happens to be the way it is.  There are no underlying messages in statistics.  I cannot foresee any relevance this has in reference to the OP's discussion.

what upsets you so much about facts?

Facts?  Nothing.  But when it is apparent you are either incorporating your own beliefs into what you claim then as "facts," or are providing an exaggeration and/or fictional additions to what you claim then as "facts," I have my objections.  As a fair person, I always invite the opportunity to learn thus accept the occasional process of being proven wrong; therefore, if you have any factual proof for your claims, I'd be most interested in reading it.  However, due to the high level of derailment this thread has endured, I request that if you have any further intentions of continuing this debate, we do so via PM.  I am making the decision to no longer post in this thread unless it directly relates to the OP.

[lilacwoman]

walt disney world is hardly a convent or seminary?

And I hardly think an organisation base on fantasy that is a natural magnet for people instilled frm birth in the belief that fantasy is real is not a good example to quote when trying to dispute cloistering of single-sexes induces homosexuality.