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How do you handle M/F questions for medical issues?

Started by MsDazzler, December 21, 2011, 10:23:07 PM

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lilacwoman

emergency room staff are quite used to stripping men and finding lingerie.   I don't know if finding jockey shorts on a woman would be remarkable or not as by the time they got down to pants they would have had a look at the patient's chest.

I did see a post in a nursing mag a few years ago before PC got big and a nurse was sayingt hey had to undress a crash victim and guy had a full set of fem stuff including miniskirt and sweater under his male trousers and shirt.  they hung the tights over the bedhead for when he woke.

a masseuse I saw over a frozen shoulder said she constant had clients wanting very low back/high thigh massage who were wearing knickers.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 24, 2011, 01:45:32 PM
emergency room staff are quite used to stripping men and finding lingerie.   

Gotta find a way to get fondled in that gay hospital in SF.

Let two gay boys give me CPR...heehee.
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annette

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 24, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
Gotta find a way to get fondled in that gay hospital in SF.

Let two gay boys give me CPR...heehee.
Don't think you really want CPR, not from gay boys or others.
Imagine, someone is pushing your chest about two inches for a hundred times a minute while the other one is putting a tube trough your throat and bag you.
Does it still sound likeable?
Not to mention if you will survive, or survive with brain damage.
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LordKAT

Quote from: annette on December 24, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
Don't think you really want CPR, not from gay boys or others.
Imagine, someone is pushing your chest about two inches for a hundred times a minute while the other one is putting a tube trough your throat and bag you.
Does it still sound likeable?
Not to mention if you will survive, or survive with brain damage.

not to mention that for a long time after, it feels like someone hit you in the chest with a heavy maul!
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Sunnynight

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annette

Problem is, that sometimes it isn't clear or it's relevant.
For example, pain in the lower limb, it is possible that the source of the problem can be in hormone use.
Blood clotting is sometimes a reaction on using E.

The healthcareworkes are not allowed to tell anything about anyone, everything the patient tells is known as a secret.
That's the law.
There is no reason why you shouldn't tell.
On every ER, they will ask about wich medicines you are using, alergic reaction etc.
So, it's disclosure or lying and put yourself in danger
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cindianna_jones

I usually don't. My GP knows. I get mamograms and don't say anything.  My GP does check a box on my blood screening requests that indicates my blood and chemical levels should be compared to the male standard, but it doesn't show up on the final reports. I had my first colon check a year ago and didn't say anything.

I've never had my prostate checked since surgery. I suppose I should.... nah. I'll put that off as long as I can!

If I'm in a situation where it's important for the doc to know, I'll tell. It's just not the first thing out of my mouth.  I'm not embarrassed by it. If they don't like it, I'll go see someone else.

Cindi
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eli77

Quote from: annette on December 25, 2011, 01:46:16 AM
Problem is, that sometimes it isn't clear or it's relevant.
For example, pain in the lower limb, it is possible that the source of the problem can be in hormone use.
Blood clotting is sometimes a reaction on using E.

They always ask what meds I'm on. I always tell the truth. What does that have to do with disclosure of trans status?
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Sarah7 on December 25, 2011, 08:40:16 AM
They always ask what meds I'm on. I always tell the truth. What does that have to do with disclosure of trans status?

Im not sure I get your point
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eli77

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 26, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Im not sure I get your point

Anette was talking about the need for doctors to know you are on estrogen. I was pointing out that you can disclose your meds without disclosing your trans status. Women are on hormone therapy for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't imply transsexualism.
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Felix

Quote from: Sarah7 on December 26, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
Anette was talking about the need for doctors to know you are on estrogen. I was pointing out that you can disclose your meds without disclosing your trans status. Women are on hormone therapy for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't imply transsexualism.

There are lots and lots of ciswomen on hrt. Two of my immediate blood family are. Disclosing meds shouldn't out you.

There are not as many natal men who take T at my age, but lol w/e. I am personally a fan of telling them what they might need to know, keeping info they don't need to yourself, and standing your ground if they raise any eyebrows either way.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: annette on December 24, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
Don't think you really want CPR, not from gay boys or others.
Imagine, someone is pushing your chest about two inches for a hundred times a minute while the other one is putting a tube trough your throat and bag you.
Does it still sound likeable?
Not to mention if you will survive, or survive with brain damage.

Did you see that? It was a joke and it totally like flew over your head..... Man, you totally missed it. There it goes...off into the horizon.
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Mister

I say nothing unless the reason I am in the hospital has a direct link to my status.  I don't list testosterone as a medication or any gender related surgeries on medical history forms.  If something comes up, I tell my provider directly.  Any notation of trans anything on a healthcare form in the US has a high probability of coming back and biting you in the ass later.
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annette

Quote from: Sarah7 on December 26, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
Anette was talking about the need for doctors to know you are on estrogen. I was pointing out that you can disclose your meds without disclosing your trans status. Women are on hormone therapy for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't imply transsexualism.
Estrogen is mostly not the only medicine transgirls are taken, the combination estrogen/androcur/and so on is quite clear, we're not fools you know, beside that we ask about operations in the past, we just want to know to give the best care one needed.
What is been said on the er, stays on the er, there is no need to keep secrets, and there is no need to be ashamed to have a trans history.
I see no reason to hide a part of your medical status when you're visiting a doctor, we don't care if you're yellow, purple or trans, it's not our job to make a judgement on whatever, it's our job to give the best care as possible.
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annette

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 27, 2011, 03:51:04 AM
Did you see that? It was a joke and it totally like flew over your head..... Man, you totally missed it. There it goes...off into the horizon.
You once said you're a DQ performer, I tought DQ was drag queen, but you're right I missed it, it's drama queen
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AbraCadabra

It also so MUCH depends on your ID status. If your ID says MALE, it be a hard sell to say you female, that's just for a start during a hospital check in.
If they'd say/accept 'female' and the medical aid status says male – the medical aid would refuse to PAY any of the bills!!!

So next, EACH AND EVERY THING THAT'S USED will now say Mister... on the that label they stick on for their cost accounting!
I felt like such an ->-bleeped-<-... for quite a while.

My last ER admission had seen me in full femme regalia (12 months RLE) - and so I was first admitted female to ER. I could hardly speak due to brain haematoma.
Then they went to their old hospital records, once admitted to the hospital proper, from the ER unit and saw I'm of male status... Hello!!!

Then going into 'Critical High Care' was no issue, since it's unisex - everyone being so zonked out with what ever their particular issues are, who'd actually care?

Once I had stabilized they send me to the Oncology Ward - THAT was STRICTLY separated.
NO WAY WOULD THEY LET ME INTO THE FEMALE WARD, only if a single-bed room was available, which was not. There are very few of those.
Off I went to the boys... nails varnished, some make-up, long hair, etc. The girl looked ->-bleeped-<-e otherwise.
Not so very funny it was, yet all my begging did nothing, tears would do neither.

Now my ID still needs MONTHS to be finally changed post-op to female...

NO idea if I had to go back what they would do now???!
In the end we just get more toughened. Like want me to sleep with the boys?!
Alrighty, bring'em right on, he he :-)

Once you through that hospital mill THEY WILL KNOW WHAT'S UP, and when going for blood tests only it's gonna be a new one too for me now.
They asked last time WHY oh why... I was asking for Estradiol tests? Well, 'cause I take EstroFem... eh, why do you take.... da, da, da,

In any case, in my experience it be just too bad if it involves an accident or being otherwise unconscious and pre- or non-op to boot.
So long they don't delay help - you go with the flow.
I've also seen some poor soul lay in the street with boobs and the rest looking more male then female... they (the medics) also did take their time to figure what to do.
Put their hand down the crutch and then what?! It can be tricky, no doubt.

Take care,
Axélle

Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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annette

A few moth's ago we had a transgendered person, dressed in man mode, not shaven for  a few days with the papers of mister.
The person said that the preferred pronoum was ma'am.
So we did, no problem, why not, is it taking extra money or something, no not at all.
So, why not making the days of admitting of this person a few good ones.
It's just a matter of respect, and I have learned when you give respect, you get respect.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 21, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
I have been on hormones for 2 months now and am under a doctor's care who is aware of my trans status - hell, she was the one who got me started on hormones, heh.

I am wondering how do you handle answering "M" or "F" for the purposes of medical issues that are dependent on your biological sex - one being obviously prostate screening where you would have to disclose your true biological sex- to unknowing medical pracitioners?

One thing I am wondering about is breast cancer screening - would you tell the doctor the "truth"? do they even ask if you are female or trans for that purpose prior to the screening?

Another example would be emergency visits where the amount of blood liters transferred are dependent on whether you are male or female.

Or would hormones change your body sufficiently that your body is essentially the same as a biological female except for the obvious (genitalia, prostate) that you can take various medical screenings and/or medication intended for males or females respectively without having to divulge your trans status?

I go for breast screening when I get a letter asking me to go. I have boobs therefor I need to go for breast screening. Because the start of my transition was more than 10 years ago they assume I am a genetic female from all medical records from the last decade. I'm not going to say otherwise.

Also prostate issues shouldn't affect male to female transsexuals for obvious reasons.


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kelly_aus

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on December 27, 2011, 08:35:28 AM
Also prostate issues shouldn't affect male to female transsexuals for obvious reasons.

Umm, what?

Admittedly those of us on hormones have a much lower risk of prostate issues, but we still have one and it does still need to be checked on from time to time..
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: kelly_aus on December 27, 2011, 06:29:29 PM
Umm, what?

Admittedly those of us on hormones have a much lower risk of prostate issues, but we still have one and it does still need to be checked on from time to time..

I actually meant we are on anti androgens which is the same kind of medication they use to treat prostate problems.
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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