Will "Occupy Wall Street" Stick?

[Amazon D]

The 99% Declaration Redux

[Dana_H]

Thankfully, I think Bachmann is too controversial to take the Republican nomination. Right now, it looks like a tight race between Gingrich and Romney with Ron Paul in third place but slowly and steadily catching up in the polls. (Some polls have even placed Paul as second ahead of Romney in Iowa.) I think Perry has bungled enough that he is no longer a realistic contender.

Since Obama most likely has a lock on the Democrat nomination (the incumbent usually takes it for their party), it will probably come down to Obama vs Gingrich/Romney/Paul by November.

On the Republican side, Paul is the one least likely to try to pass some new form of DOMA. Take that for what you will.

(FWIW, I have no loyalties for either of those two parties. Just summarizing what I see.)

[gennee]

Ron Paul is the only candidate who has it right.  

[Julie Marie]

If Romney isn't the Pubs choice to go up against Obama I'll be shocked.  I know they have a serious aversion to Romney but their other choices are either too controversial or just not in line with the Tea Party/Norquist/Billionaire Boys ideals.  Gingrich's "the poor public schools are failing so let's teach the poor kids how to be good janitors" kind of mentality won't hold up with the general public.  And he won't be the flavor of the week for very long.  The Pubs will have to take Romney because the party won't accept anyone anymore left than him.

As for Occupy, maybe it's time to start getting signatures to make changes in how we do business.  Change the election process by dramatically reducing campaign donations.  Put an end to lobbying and corporate personhood.  Make Constitutional changes that even the Supreme Court can't skirt around.  And do this by creating referendums and such that only require voter signatures and not having to rely on our politicians to take action.

[Jen61]

Ron Paul is the only candidate who has it right.  

Please enlight me. Are you saying he is going to bring the 1%  back in line !

[gennee]

How interesting, do you have a web site or reference

I googled her name and followed some of the websites.

[gennee]

Please enlight me. Are you saying he is going to bring the 1%  back in line !

Ron Paul is the only one who would get rid of the Federal Reserve which fund all these unnecessary wars. There are some issues that I don't agree with him on but he's the only candidate that is not a corporatist.

[gennee]

I went down to Occupy Wall Street on Saturday. The site is smaller but seems to be building back up. The property their on belongs to a church. They are in negotiation with the church about the site. The media isn't covering the Occupy movement like before but they are still there. They still have meetings and are working on a different strategy.

[Julie Marie]

It sounds like they aren't disrupting the Wall Streeters where they are now.  Would you say that's true Gennee?

[gennee]

I would, Julie. I'm going to find out about what their plans are. They need to go after some targets, I agree.   

[Julie Marie]

If you aren't disrupting the people who fund the politicians you aren't going to get noticed.

[Amazon D]

MY LETTER TO OWS::
http://www.nycga.net/groups/the-99-declaration-working-group/forum/topic/respectfully-some-suggestions/?topic_page=4&num=15#post-15124


I am a part of the 99% of the USA population because i am a poor vietnam veteran living in a house without plumbing and barely surviving. I have not been to any occupy ralleys because i am my moms caregiver. I have been happy to see the attention gotten by the encapments but it has become a problem in that it has caused small businesses to suffer near these encapments. It has also gotten people to take sides due to the wild actions forcing police actions against you all. Now i am one who has had an encapment. However, i did it at the US Capital by the reflecting pool for 23 days + NIGHTS. Yes i slept in my tent overnight next to the reflecting pool in may 2002. So i know all about protesting. My permit didn't allow for over night but then again i wasn't causing a issue for any local businesses or police. I actuall had their support for my cause. I also found online the 99declaration group and was wary at first. I thought they didn't represent most at the encapments. However, i have been a homeless person many times in my life and as time went by i saw how many homeless gathered at these occupy encapments and well they can be some pretty powerful voices. They are use to running any encapments where people gather. Its their lifestyle. To many of them its their THING and these encapments are a THING for them to try and control. They are especially interested in the Donations coming in. I have looked at both sides and i haven't joined either side but I DECLARE I SUPPORT THE http://WWW.THE99DECLARATION.ORG / GROUP. I hope that the people here will support them and also see how at many encampments you have people who are professional homeless who can become major players in your initial protest and can be swaying your movement, because they don't want to see your movement ever end so they get to be players in a group that never ends and gets donations. These professional homeless do not want to get jobs and go back to work. I know them as i lived with them all over the USA over the last 40 yrs off and on but i left to move to the country to help farmers because i know we have to work and work is good and healthy for all people. I hope you will choose what i have chosen.
SIGNED
Danie Clarke a vietnam veteran transgender who has been an activist all my life. I even joined the USMC to tell them i won't kill anybody. So i know your side. I also have had a small business as a furniture mover and builder.

[gennee]

If you aren't disrupting the people who fund the politicians you aren't going to get noticed.

Very true. That's why I want to see what they next move will be. They need to be in the street and focus on the people who caused this mess.

[Julie Marie]

Very true. That's why I want to see what they next move will be. They need to be in the street and focus on the people who caused this mess.

And the banks and financial offices too.  Imagine all the people who ended up underwater on their mortgages all going into their local banks and applying for refinancing, again and again and again.  Or the people who saw their retirement investments shrink or vanish going into their local broker's office and seeing how best to invest the $100 from their piggy bank.  There's more than one way to get noticed.

[gennee]

Your right about that, Julie. Many minorities here were affected by both.  My bank won't approve loans unless you have a secured account.