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Why can't I turn lezzie... or at least even bi?

Started by MsDazzler, January 06, 2012, 01:02:19 PM

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MsDazzler

As many and many of you know, I am one of the VERY FEW gay man-turned-hetero transwomen on this forum-

I have always had a strong lust, attraction, and eyes for men only ever since puberty hit. I've actually had a girlfriend in high school which was a terrible, short-lived fiasco. Actually she was the one who made me admit to myself that I liked men, not women.

Ive heard of ancedotal stories around here about hetero men-turned-translesbians suddenly developing sudden or emerging interest in men. They are at least entertaining the thought of being bi, if not hetero and/or actually acting on those awakenings.

I've been on HRT for about 3 months now - my sexual orientation is steadfast as ever - no emerging or odd attraction to women suddenly appearing since.

Why can't I turn lezzie or at least bi? It seems to be more common for translesbians to develop sudden interest in men but not for hetero transwomen to develop any interest in women... I m sure Mahsa can attest to this as well.

This gets my blood going  -



Not that!

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: MsDazzler on January 06, 2012, 01:02:19 PM
I've actually had a girlfriend in high school which was a terrible, short-lived fiasco. Actually she was the one who made me admit to myself that I liked men, not women.



Did you see the photo of me before and a chick that was taken at a comic con? awkward.

I lost my Vginity to a girl and she had to practically force herself on me. I find this one andro girl(local gay bartender) really sexy... But it wouldn't last.
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Cyndigurl45

I think I'm just the opposite, I am not attracted to men unless I am enfemme and my attraction to women is the desire to be one not be with one ;)
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Joeyboo~ :3

My attraction to females started recently and I'm 5 months on HRT.
Who knows, you still might feel something later on :D

Oh and before HRT.
I was strictly into cis-men only.
Not the least bit curious to explore anything else.

But when I started hormones and joined Susans I learned to not be such a douchebag with plain tastes :D
I like a lot more now.
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Nurse With Wound

Quote from: MsDazzler on January 06, 2012, 01:02:19 PM

This gets my blood going  -

*guy picture*

Not that!

*girl picture*
Maybe you just need to find your "type", I consider myself hetero with bi tendencies but the type of woman in your picture doesn't interest me at all. Only boyish girls do, just like I mainly prefer girly guys and not the man you posted. It's all about finding features in them which you find attractive.
Scaring away, my ghosts.
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MsDazzler

Well, I suppose I am seeing if there is a such thing as a GMTHT (gay-man-turned-hetero-transwoman) could even develop remote interest in women seeing that there is such a popular trend among translesbians' awakening to men, based on pheromes or whatever.

But still - the thought of being close to a vagina other than mine (if I do get SRS) makes my toes curl in disgust, lol.

The last time I made out with a natal female was when I was 19 and a raver boi, in a burst of affection brought on by using ecstasy. lol. Even then, I felt nothing but affection.

This kind of phenomenon applies to natal gays and lesbians as well - far more lesbians have either converted to being hetero or bisexual than gays converting to being hetero or bisexual.
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Lily

I always leave myself open to the possibility of finding men attractive, but it's never happened yet. There's just no excitement there for me.

I remember one time in my teens I thought I might be gay due to my desire to be female, so I looked up some gay porn on the internet to see if it triggered anything. Nope, nothing.
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eli77

Rebekah has wandered off somewhere, but she went from identifying as a gay guy pre-transition to being exclusively into girls. So it can happen. You may get lucky and develop new superpowers!

Really though, why does it bother you? I had issues for a while with not having any desire for guys. Because, in case you didn't notice, among the younger transitioners, dykes are few and far between. Bi girls yes, lesbians not so much. So it's another thing that makes me feel a bit "other" among trans girls. But it's an important piece of who I am, and I'm cool with it these days. So you can't get it up for girls, no big, that's just who you are.

(By the way, the girl you posted... Not really doing anything for me either.)

Quote from: MsDazzler on January 06, 2012, 02:15:25 PM
This kind of phenomenon applies to natal gays and lesbians as well - far more lesbians have either converted to being hetero or bisexual than gays converting to being hetero or bisexual.

Pretty sure that's mostly a myth perpetuated by the straight male targeted media. Who seem obsessed with getting into my pants for some reason.
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Emi

Well, strange as it is that man make me surge more lust than that woman...of course i know that my fetish for man dont last more than a second when  this become a "real flesh thing"
But a woman  what really  get my blood is this





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Emi

But answering to your question,  develop a new sexual orientation  i thoug is a mix of inner  closet desires, whit some kind of chemistry in the brain changed whit the hormones.

The only way that  you can  avoid you biological  sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual or straight all are primary a biological issue i thoug) is  trough...
a) a big trauma what dont let you enjoy and make you go whit a gender that you really don like...that happen to me in the past when i try whit men, i was so screwed inside  that i let my masochist urges put me in a bed whit a man...a kind of autopunish  for not be "enought man / man deserve ->-bleeped-<-"  the idea in some way was a lot  of erotic for me in my mind..but at the "true moment " was a  horrify experience what make me sick...what sadly  make more strong the surge auto destructive  after ... :/
Actually i am lot more self confident and that urges are controlled and well i know a lot better my real tastes of genders.


b) social closet , a so much  hard need to fit in a social role and a not so hard need to have sex :P

PD:  i am a kind of narcissist and i cna find interesting be flirted by man...,sure i would enjoy a lot more the flirt of a woman  (cisg or trans) but well...cisg woman dont used to  "hit into men"  they  are more "pasive"  and  trans woman are very few   1 for every XXXX thousand cig woman...and well must admitt that i feel guilty   if i dont give the same treatment to a trans than to a cig so i try to be more  active whit them... So  sadly i end again using sometimes men  for my selfish  needs xDDDDD
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stldrmgrl

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Emi on January 06, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
Well, strange as it is that man make me surge more lust than that woman...of course i know that my fetish for man dont last more than a second when  this become a "real flesh thing"
But a woman  what really  get my blood is this







This forum is slowly becoming like all the other forums on the net.
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MacKenzie


   What is the point of this thread? I don't get why you would want to, just because some people on here are lez you feel you have to?  ???

   There are actually alot of former gay turned heterosexual transwomen here if you took the time to look it's just most of us don't feel the need to bring up our gay past in every post.

   Just be yourself.  :)
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Sarah7 on January 06, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
Rebekah has wandered off somewhere, but she went from identifying as a gay guy pre-transition to being exclusively into girls. So it can happen. You may get lucky and develop new superpowers!

Really though, why does it bother you? I had issues for a while with not having any desire for guys. Because, in case you didn't notice, among the younger transitioners, dykes are few and far between. Bi girls yes, lesbians not so much. So it's another thing that makes me feel a bit "other" among trans girls. But it's an important piece of who I am, and I'm cool with it these days. So you can't get it up for girls, no big, that's just who you are.

(By the way, the girl you posted... Not really doing anything for me either.)

Pretty sure that's mostly a myth perpetuated by the straight male targeted media. Who seem obsessed with getting into my pants for some reason.

It doesn't bother me. I am just wondering about if HRT is able to sway me into liking women. So far - zilch

And, I have many many LGBT friends, so that is why I can say with confidence that it tends to be far more lesbians that convert than gay men,  based on my personal experiences and witnessing others.

It is a fact that women tends to be open minded and fluid with their sexualities than men are, anyway.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Emi on January 06, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
Well, strange as it is that man make me surge more lust than that woman...of course i know that my fetish for man dont last more than a second when  this become a "real flesh thing"
But a woman  what really  get my blood is this







Viewing those pics and my heart didn't beat faster. Damnit lol
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Emi on January 06, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
But answering to your question,  develop a new sexual orientation  i thoug is a mix of inner  closet desires, whit some kind of chemistry in the brain changed whit the hormones.

The only way that  you can  avoid you biological  sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual or straight all are primary a biological issue i thoug) is  trough...
a) a big trauma what dont let you enjoy and make you go whit a gender that you really don like...that happen to me in the past when i try whit men, i was so screwed inside  that i let my masochist urges put me in a bed whit a man...a kind of autopunish  for not be "enought man / man deserve ->-bleeped-<-"  the idea in some way was a lot  of erotic for me in my mind..but at the "true moment " was a  horrify experience what make me sick...what sadly  make more strong the surge auto destructive  after ... :/
Actually i am lot more self confident and that urges are controlled and well i know a lot better my real tastes of genders.


b) social closet , a so much  hard need to fit in a social role and a not so hard need to have sex :P

PD:  i am a kind of narcissist and i cna find interesting be flirted by man...,sure i would enjoy a lot more the flirt of a woman  (cisg or trans) but well...cisg woman dont used to  "hit into men"  they  are more "pasive"  and  trans woman are very few   1 for every XXXX thousand cig woman...and well must admitt that i feel guilty   if i dont give the same treatment to a trans than to a cig so i try to be more  active whit them... So  sadly i end again using sometimes men  for my selfish  needs xDDDDD

Yeah I believe sexual orientation are mostly determined by biology, but also can be swayed or influenced by the environment as well.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Asha on January 06, 2012, 04:03:04 PM
   What is the point of this thread? I don't get why you would want to, just because some people on here are lez you feel you have to?  ???

   There are actually alot of former gay turned heterosexual transwomen here if you took the time to look it's just most of us don't feel the need to bring up our gay past in every post.

   Just be yourself.  :)

Firstly, if you re-read what I wrote in my first post, you'd get the point.

Secondly, I acknowledged that there are GMTHT posters here, but the majority of the posters are lesbians who have brought up again and again about their burgeoning desires for men after being on HRT. There was no such a thread created by a GMTHT so I poisited this for purely speculation. Not every thread has to deal with hard facts, reality, or deep dysphoric feelings about gender.

Thirdly, do your homework and review all the threads and posts I've made. Not every of them are gay-related. Don't make such blanket assumptions.

Lastly, I will post any topic or thread about homosexuality however I wish to; there is no rule against it. I don't flaunt my gay past nor I hide it, either. If there is a thought that pop up in my mind and it happens to be gay-related, so be it. I'll post it.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Asha on January 06, 2012, 04:03:04 PM
   What is the point of this thread? I don't get why you would want to, just because some people on here are lez you feel you have to?  ???

   There are actually alot of former gay turned heterosexual transwomen here if you took the time to look it's just most of us don't feel the need to bring up our gay past in every post.

   Just be yourself.  :)

We brought up (y)our gay past because we like you so much Asha.
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MacKenzie

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on January 06, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
We brought up (y)our gay past because we like you so much Asha.

...or your just a gay man pretending to be trans either way is fine.

  Different strokes for different folks lol.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Asha on January 06, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
...or your just a gay man pretending to be trans either way is fine.

  Different strokes for different folks lol.

For a GMTHT, you surely love hijacking every gay-related thread or post I make, which by the way, is not every post/thread I make.

You may have a problem with discussing homosexuality in any form and have your own issues with your gay past; I don't.
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