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I have never understood dating systems.

Started by Cindy, January 06, 2012, 02:48:25 AM

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Anatta

Quote from: Cindy James on January 08, 2012, 12:32:37 AM
Sorry people didn't mean to confuse with dating tips :laugh:

But if I guy asks you out on the 12/1/2012 you might miss out on a date! :laugh:

Cindy

Kia Ora Cindy,

::) Only our North American cousins ! ;) ;D

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kelly_aus

Quote from: Cindy James on January 08, 2012, 12:32:37 AM
Sorry people didn't mean to confuse with dating tips :laugh:

But if I guy asks you out on the 12/1/2012 you might miss out on a date! :laugh:

Cindy

12/01/2012? If I get that mixed up I'd miss an appointment, one I need to go to as I need some prescriptions.. That and Rosie will charge me anyway if I don't turn up..
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Alicia

Even in the computer world, it's less standardized than you think. In Win32, you have to deal with at least variant date, filetime, and systemtime. You might also have to deal with DOS representations and/or Unix time. Julian dates are one long-used method of dealing with dates more easily. Database servers provide various date and time functions as SQL extensions. Helpful as they are, they still vary greatly from one DBMS server to te next. Some people, like Egbert Zijlema, have also contributed lots of helpful code.

Standard formats like YYYY-MM-DD are helpful in parsing user input and human readable formats like CSV/TSV.  But not so good to calculate or sort. Then you really need Julian or Unix time. They are also more compact. Modified Julian lets you represent a pretty long time with just 2 bytes. Unix time, covering date and time (duh), is traditionally 4 bytes though is starting to move to 64 bits. I've also seen a nonstandard option of Unix time in a signed 32 bit int to cover before and after 1970, albeit with fewer years representable. Anyhoo, once you have a JD, MJD, or Unix time it's just a simple add, subtract, or compare of integers and fairly cross platform. Though variant date is also simple, it's not cross platform nor is usable with most Win32 API's.

If you really like things getting interesting, try expressing the date by the Japanese imperial calendar or the time by Thailand's 6-hour clock. See what kind of reactions you get.

Btw since I was in fifth grade I use 24 hour time as much as people will let me get away with.
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Cindy

So you are all telling me that the most basic physical law, and its manifestations are totally cactused?

We cannot communicate about time!

We don't even know what day we are on.

Never mind what month
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Felix

Quote from: Cindy James on January 08, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
So you are all telling me that the most basic physical law, and its manifestations are totally cactused?

We cannot communicate about time!

We don't even know what day we are on.

Never mind what month

cac·tus

noun /ˈkaktəs/ 
cacti, plural; cactuses, plural

   1. A succulent plant with a thick, fleshy stem that typically bears spines, lacks leaves, and has brilliantly colored flowers. Cacti are native to arid regions of the New World and are cultivated elsewhere, esp. as houseplants


I don't know what's going on. Are we going to talk about entropy? :laugh:
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Cindy

Oh Felix'
I do love you so. :-*t
Being cactus'ed . You have had the spikey bits put into a place you do not want spikey bits put. You are left alone in the middle of no where


Australian for no hope, complete failure.

Close to total failure

Cindy
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JoanneB

Quote from: Cindy James on January 08, 2012, 04:21:21 AM
So you are all telling me that the most basic physical law, and its manifestations are totally cactused?

We cannot communicate about time!

We don't even know what day we are on.

Never mind what month

Well....  I just heard on the tele the other day that the Guardians of Time are taking a second away from us on 30 June, I believe it was. (or was it June 30th? ) Something about a wobbly Earth. Probably from too many adult beverages.
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JoanneB

Quote from: tekla on January 07, 2012, 07:16:23 PM
So why does the US still use the British system of weights & measures?

Because it doesn't make a difference in our market.  Anyone who wants to sell here will make it that way if it seems important.  Some things are changing, slowly, but hey, look on the bright side, if your a tool company here you get to sell everyone two different wrench sets.

And if you are a mechanic you get to drag two sets of wrenches and sockets out to work on the vehicle. Even just for one job like the hardware for an alternator!  >:(
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tekla

No you don't you use one or the other, no car or bike uses both.
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rosetyler

Quote from: Axélle-Michélle on January 06, 2012, 05:23:43 AM2003-11-09: the ISO 8601 international standard orders the components of a date like this
Yeah, I've got a friend who prefers that method.  Here's the WP link, if you're feeling nerdy:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
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ToriJo

I'll stick to the only standard I know that is unambiguous for modern dates: 8 Jan 2012 or fully written out (January 8, 2012).  But my day job involves systems on 6 continents and milliseconds are important, so I would support us all going to UTC for time with time specified in 24H format (20:21:30.523 for example).
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tekla

I use military time at work and I just love it.  Much better way to comprehend, and way, way, way clearer to communicate.
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JulieC.

QuoteNo you don't you use one or the other, no car or bike uses both.

That is not true.  It's a world economy.  Not all the parts on a Ford are made in the US.  There are metric and standard nut and bolts on a car. 

I'm a woodworker and most of the hardware I use is from Europe and therefore metric.  As is some of the machinery I buy.  I have no problem switching back and forth between the two.  I will say I prefer using an inch/foot tape measure to metric.  It is confusing to learn but once you master it, it's easier to use.  I know most will disagree with me on that.



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Felix

Quote from: JulieC. on January 09, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
That is not true.  It's a world economy.  Not all the parts on a Ford are made in the US.  There are metric and standard nut and bolts on a car. 

I'm a woodworker and most of the hardware I use is from Europe and therefore metric.  As is some of the machinery I buy.  I have no problem switching back and forth between the two.  I will say I prefer using an inch/foot tape measure to metric.  It is confusing to learn but once you master it, it's easier to use.  I know most will disagree with me on that.

The last couple places I worked used metric, and it was actually pretty simple, but I still reflexively (roughly) converted everything in my head to not-metric.
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