Follow up on my estradiol bad side effects and an alternative - estriol

[KayXo]

I did not know anything about that histamine connection.  That gives me something useful to bring up with the endocrinologist next time.  Thanks Stephe!

Name is Kay. You welcome.

I've been reticent to get injections, since I've had squirrelly reactions at relatively low-doses before I would guess injections could go really really really wrong.  I have tried creams and it's basically the same as oral in terms of my reactions.  I do notice it 'hits' faster, though.

I didn't react well to oral or patches but do fine on injections when levels are much higher.

And if I got the progesterone wrong, it was a lot worse than getting the estrogen wrong (in terms of headache and palpitation).

Did you take it orally?

[JLT1]

Hi,

On your prescription or in the patient pamphlet there will be an exact identifier of the type of estrogen you took in the form of a CAS number (Chemical Abstract Service).  The form of the number is XXXX-XX-X.  Some companies are playing games with names.  Some companies are playing other games as well.

Please tell me the CAS# of what you took and the trade name of the drug or patch ect...

Jennifer

[Russngrl]

Hi, my first post.

I was dischared from the hospital yesterday after a stroke, clot in my brain stem!  I'm OK now but I can't safely take oral estradiol.

So, what do I do now?  How can I keep the changes that nine months of estrogen have given me?

Would a different route of administration be safe?   How about progesterone?   Or T-blockers alone?   Any ideas?

[KathyLauren]

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I am sorry to hear about your stroke.  That is a most alarming event, and you are right to be concerned about your HRT.  Unfortunately, members here can't give medical advice, only opinions.  This is something that you need to discuss with your prescribing doctor, who will know your full medical history and can make recommendations that are in your best interest.

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[Russngrl]

Thanks, I just registered.   I see my doc in Nov.   I'm a scientist by background and ALWAYS do as much research as I can.

[Russngrl]

An additional comment on my post.

My experience is evidence that estrogen is not to be taken lightly, and especially without a doctor's supervision.   I have NOT been taking a high dose either, a low dose for 7 months, then I dropped down to a slightly lower dose for two.   Estrogen is a powerful drug.   Is does wonderful things for us m2f folks, but it could've killed me if the clot was bigger and in a vital part of my brainstem.

Cheryl

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[Dena]

Hi, my first post.

I was dischared from the hospital yesterday after a stroke, clot in my brain stem!  I'm OK now but I can't safely take oral estradiol.

So, what do I do now?  How can I keep the changes that nine months of estrogen have given me?

Would a different route of administration be safe?   How about progesterone?   Or T-blockers alone?   Any ideas?

Normally  injectable, implants, patches or gels are a less risky  alternative to pills. Often I see members in the 60+ age group on patches because pills are risky in the doctors opinion. I don't know exactly why you have such a high risk of clots but it is possible you may  still be able to receive HRT though possibly at a lower dosage. Even dosages a quarter of the standard dosage are sufficient to cause development so discuss this with your doctor and see what's possible.

[Russngrl]

Thanks for all the responses.

I'm trying to do the impossible, stay married and satisfy enough of my femininity to be reasonably happy with my wife.   I would lose her if I transitioned, which I ache to do.

Complete electrolysis, and close to 100% passing privelige enables me to do what I want in the world.  Plus I'm small - size 8 shoe!  So, I was taking a low dose estradiol to experience some physical changes, got enough hip and butt to get rid of padding, A cup breasts, and already looked good in a one piece swimsuit.

Then the stroke happened and now I'm scared of estrogen.  Problem is I'm a neuroscientist and know too much about what could've happened.  I'm extremely lucky.

I'm seeing my therapist later today and my gender doc in November.   Maybe at my age, 67, I won't lose that much by stopping??  Maybe antiandrogen would help

Cheryl

[Russngrl]

Followup.

Right now, I'm scared of estrogen!   After some research and after a few months, maybe not so much.  We'll see.