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On pronouns (reality check)

Started by Bird, January 28, 2012, 02:07:38 PM

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Korra

My friends are kind of ->-bleeped-<-s so I'm hoping when I deem it time for them to start addressing me by a new name/pronouns they take it seriously..otherwise I really have no problem cutting them out of the picture.
I may side with the angels, but don't think for one second that I'm one of them.
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Cadence Jean

I have one friend who has problems with getting the pronoun.  I don't care so much when it's just us hanging out, but it's incredibly embaraasing with strangers, like waitstaff.  I'm afraid to go out with him anywhere public because of the embaraasment.  I mean, at the point that I'm way passable, it won't be such an issue, because then he'll look retarded.  But at this point, once the wrong pronoun is used, it's a give-away for me.  And that sends the wrong impression to that stranger - they won't know how to address me if my own friends aren't addressing me as a woman.  It sort of invalidates everything that I'm trying to convey to people with my presentation.  My presentation says, "Treat me like a woman" but my friend's actions say "Treat him like a man."  Not happy!  I wouldn't be so upset about it if he was making an effort, but I don't see one at all.  I explained this to him, because he was acting upset that I was upset, and he backed off a bit.  But, basically, you're totally in the right for feeling how you do about your "friends."  If they really were your friends, they would respect what you are doing and try to support you how a friend should.  I think you'd be better off looking for new friends - the one's that you'll find that accept you for you will be far better for you than hanging onto the old friends who are hanging onto the old you.
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Stephe

Quote from: Cadence Jean on January 31, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
I have one friend who has problems with getting the pronoun.  I don't care so much when it's just us hanging out, but it's incredibly embaraasing with strangers, like waitstaff.  I'm afraid to go out with him anywhere public because of the embaraasment.  I mean, at the point that I'm way passable, it won't be such an issue, because then he'll look retarded.  But at this point, once the wrong pronoun is used, it's a give-away for me.  And that sends the wrong impression to that stranger - they won't know how to address me if my own friends aren't addressing me as a woman.  It sort of invalidates everything that I'm trying to convey to people with my presentation.  My presentation says, "Treat me like a woman" but my friend's actions say "Treat him like a man."  Not happy!  I wouldn't be so upset about it if he was making an effort, but I don't see one at all.  I explained this to him, because he was acting upset that I was upset, and he backed off a bit.  But, basically, you're totally in the right for feeling how you do about your "friends."  If they really were your friends, they would respect what you are doing and try to support you how a friend should.  I think you'd be better off looking for new friends - the one's that you'll find that accept you for you will be far better for you than hanging onto the old friends who are hanging onto the old you.

+1 on this. It just is weird and even if you are -way passable- it will be totally weird if the waitress comes up and he says "Take HIS order first".. People do slip that knew you before, that's understandable, but after a while even that should disappear. I honestly have found that very few of my old friends are still friends. We still chat some but the things we had in common then aren't relevant to me now.
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Tazia of the Omineca

Quote from: Cadence Jean on January 31, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
I have one friend who has problems with getting the pronoun.  I don't care so much when it's just us hanging out, but it's incredibly embaraasing with strangers, like waitstaff.  I'm afraid to go out with him anywhere public because of the embaraasment.  I mean, at the point that I'm way passable, it won't be such an issue, because then he'll look retarded.  But at this point, once the wrong pronoun is used, it's a give-away for me.  And that sends the wrong impression to that stranger - they won't know how to address me if my own friends aren't addressing me as a woman.  It sort of invalidates everything that I'm trying to convey to people with my presentation.  My presentation says, "Treat me like a woman" but my friend's actions say "Treat him like a man."  Not happy!  I wouldn't be so upset about it if he was making an effort, but I don't see one at all.  I explained this to him, because he was acting upset that I was upset, and he backed off a bit.  But, basically, you're totally in the right for feeling how you do about your "friends."  If they really were your friends, they would respect what you are doing and try to support you how a friend should.  I think you'd be better off looking for new friends - the one's that you'll find that accept you for you will be far better for you than hanging onto the old friends who are hanging onto the old you.

I really like my friends, but I think I might have to end up leaving them behind...
I mean they are great, nice, and fairly reliable. Good friends.
Except when it comes to me being trans and wanting to be known as a girl.
I totally agree with this post.
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Cadence Jean

I don't know about the other girls' experiences, but I've found that I make and keep friends way easier now.  I think has something to do with living authenticating.  So, if you(the OP) are scared of losing friends, just remember that for every one friend you lose, there's probably five more waiting out there to befriend the real you. :)
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Bird

Cadence

I noticed that is what has been happening. I had such a hard time keeping friendships before, now it is easy for me. The friends I had before transitioning all see me as a guy, no matter how much I change or do, but the people I meet now see me as a woman only. It enables me to function, meet people, and keep their friendships.

I think i will start a thread about this!
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