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Not Following The HBSOC . . .

Started by gina_taylor, March 10, 2007, 10:02:27 AM

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gina_taylor

I have a pre-op friend who's been on HRT for a year and a half, and her therapist hasn't positioned her to start her RLT yet. She spends her time at home as a woman but when she goes to work, she goes as a man, and she's recently being harrassed by the employees at the company. She's seking legal action, but I don't think she's going to get to far. I don't know why her therapist wouldn't have explained to her about going to her employer and explaining about the upcoming changes in her life and see what he could have done. I honestly don't think that she's pschologically ready for it, and she's planning on getting her SRS done next year.

Gina
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Melissa

Well, she can look for another therapist.  Honestly though, I did much of my transition on my own.  If I felt like a therapist was just having me run in circles, I just got another one.  My last one I got was awesome.  As for going fulltime, or coming out at work, a therapist really isn't required.

Melissa
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rhonda13000

"Not following the SOC..."

I'll refrain from expressing my sentiments concerning the same, insofar as they apply to me.

Melissa is quite aware of how I feel about the subject.

"I am not adhering to that proscribed transitional syllabus nor sequencing of transitional events."
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Kate

Quote from: gina_taylor on March 10, 2007, 10:02:27 AM
when she goes to work, she goes as a man, and she's recently being harrassed by the employees...

Hmmm, why is she being harassed if she's still presenting as a man? If she's being harassed because people are beginning to notice changes from HRT, it's probably (past) time to present this to management.

Kate
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togetherwecan

I would like to suggest to those willing to network their therapists and provide the contact info for these therapists to other TS individual therapists so that those therapists with minimal experience in the process can work together. Makes sense to me. It would also allow the therapists to vent, examine, educate and learn from one another  without actually disclosing the patient. This could be a major step.
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tinkerbell

QuoteNot following The HBSOC

Well, I am a firm believer of the HBSOC.  I think that the HBSOC are there for a reason; yes to protect the medical community but also to protect the patient. Without HBSOC, a TS person can't move along with their transition (i.e., get HRT, obtain certain cosmetic procedures, have SRS, etc, etc, etc), not in the US at least.  Following the HBSOC is not such a nightmare as some people think; in fact I found it to be a very simple process, but again, it is probably different for everyone.

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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RuthChambers

Quote from: togetherwecan on March 10, 2007, 01:23:44 PM
I would like to suggest to those willing to network their therapists and provide the contact info for these therapists to other TS individual therapists so that those therapists with minimal experience in the process can work together. Makes sense to me. It would also allow the therapists to vent, examine, educate and learn from one another  without actually disclosing the patient. This could be a major step.

List of therapists could be added to the Wiki https://www.susans.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_therapy

The HBSOC conferences do provide a means for therapists and clinicans to network.

The UK https://www.susans.org/wiki/United_Kingdom has draft guidelines that apply to all professionals working in this field and are a way of sharing best practise.

Ruth
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Steph

Realistically Gina it is not up to the therapist to advise their patients on coming out at work.  This is something that the patient must do and arrange.  The therapist would advise on coping skills and how to deal with rejection etc., but the individual is in a much better position to investigate the work situation, policing covering such things as harassment, and discrimination and decide how to go about this.

There is a whole section in our Wiki devoted to coming out in the work place and I would recommend that your friend have a look at it.  It can be found here:

https://www.susans.org/wiki/A_Guide_to_Coming_Out_at_the_Workplace

As far as your friend wanting SRS next year, and you're not thinking that she is ready, lets hope that the therapist sees this as well and takes appropriate steps to ensure that the well being of your friend is maintained and that someone doesn't make a horrible mistake.  I haven't seen current statistics on TS regretting SRS, but even one more is too many.

Steph
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gina_taylor

Thanks for your many replies to my friends problem.  Kiera, my friend is being harrassed because people (or employees) see her breast development and because she's presenting herself as a man at work they don't understand it and so that is why they harrass her.

I understand your point there Stephanie, and she isn't going to regret having her SRS done, it's just that I want to manke sure that she follows proper procedures so thst she does has it done correctly with the proper papers and time. But over all I do understand that it's more up to her on coming out then it is to her therapist, but since she's already showing so much, and since in the HBSOC it does say that when a transsexual does start HRT that they do usually start their RLT I was just a little concerned on the delay.


My friend just recently told me that she's going to be starting a new job and will also be starting her RLT as well!!! I'm really excited for her

Gina
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Brianna

Quote from: Tink on March 10, 2007, 02:24:48 PM
QuoteNot following The HBSOC

Well, I am a firm believer of the HBSOC.  I think that the HBSOC are there for a reason; yes to protect the medical community but also to protect the patient.

I totally, 110 percent agree. The fact is, the Benjamins are hardly the only SOC that exist - there are many for a wide variety of ailments.

Transition is something you want to do from a position of strength, not recuscance.

Bri
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Jonie


I don't know why her therapist wouldn't have explained to her about going to her employer and explaining about the upcoming changes in her life and see what he could have done. I honestly don't think...



I went through several therapists before I found just the right one. She and her associate were far better than the rest. Shopping around was a very good choice for me.
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gina_taylor

Kiera, my friend has worked for a glass company for the past 32 years. She is planning on moving to a bigger city and also getting a new job in this city so that she can start living full time as a woman without feeling any problems from people that she knew from where she came from.

Jonie, I'm sure that my friend is very comfortable with her thearpist, but it's just that I don't know to what extent of the HBSOC that she knows about. If she doesn't know everything about it, then my friend wouldn't be getting the full benifit from her therapist. At least she is helping her to get her papers fro SRS.

Gina
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melissa90299

Quote from: gina_taylor on March 10, 2007, 10:02:27 AM
I have a pre-op friend who's been on HRT for a year and a half, and her therapist hasn't positioned her to start her RLT yet. She spends her time at home as a woman but when she goes to work, she goes as a man, and she's recently being harrassed by the employees at the company. She's seking legal action, but I don't think she's going to get to far. I don't know why her therapist wouldn't have explained to her about going to her employer and explaining about the upcoming changes in her life and see what he could have done. I honestly don't think that she's pschologically ready for it, and she's planning on getting her SRS done next year.



Gina[/color]

She is living as a man and planning on SRS? That doesn't make any sense to me.

QuoteShe spends her time at home as a woman but when she goes to work/

How exactly does one do that?

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