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disfigured and trans

Started by Elsa.G, February 12, 2012, 04:57:19 PM

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Elsa.G

So lately ive been trying to make more of an effort to go out and meet other trans people, because up until a couple of months ago i didn't know anyone trans besides myself of course. So i met this trans girl named Katie at one of my local bars here and she proceeded to introduce me to some of her friends. She mostly has lesbian friends and they are all really nice, she only introduced me to one other trans girl named Jade. Well Jade is only 25 yrs old and she is sort of out to the world but not completely.. Jade was disfigured as a teenager in a accident and she has about more than half of her face severely burned and she uses a nose prosthesis as well because she lost her nose. Jade has told me that she is not out and most likely will not be because she feels insecure, females by nature i believe are very preoccupied with appearance and at the age of 25 it's pretty important at least for most of us. Well i had a conversation with Jade because she is very dysphoric most of the times that i see her, which lately has been pretty often. Well anyway i mentioned to her that her disfigurement should not hold her back from achieving her dream, because we only get to live once in this life and she might be regretting this later on. I want you'r opinions do you think that her disfigurement should hold her back from transitioning into a woman? i believe that it shouldn't hold her back at all, i believe she should live the life that will make her happy and forget what other's might think because sometimes we gotta live for ourselves. Why should we care about what people who we dont know and dont know us think? Ive said to her go out, dress how u like, if you dont feel 100% comfortable throw on some makeup or whatever u like but be yourself. What do you guys think?
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Tazia of the Omineca

Well to another person I would say go for it.
Myself however I would honestly kill myself.
Mostly because I am horribly vain and I take pride in my looks.
I know it is horrible, but that's how I have been for such a long time.
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Make_It_Good

She should do what it is that she feels will make her happy. If she feels that transitioning is the answer and it is her disfigurement that is the only thing preventing her from doing so, then she needs to find a way to overcome this barrier. It is good that she has friends around her who can hopefully help her along the way.
  And whatever point she is in in her life, it is very admirable that she is there :) and that she hasnt killed herself, to say someone may kill themselves if in her predicament, seems quite harsh.

Good luck to you and her.
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Rabbit

Ehh...

When your body gets to a point that is so broken or ugly or something you really hate... you eventually disconnect from it and focus on other things. You stop hating it and you simply accept it is how you are and you move on.

I think when you are borderline... when you can see glimmers of what you want to be in the mirror... that is when you focus more on it. But, if you look in the mirror and think it is impossible... you just sigh and go on with the day (instead of obsessing about it constantly).

As for your friend.. I say sure, go for it, transition. Hormones do more than simply shift how you look physically... there has definitely been a mental improvement (at least for me). I think the burns and nose are another issue all together that she needs to deal with and get past.
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Shantel

She's lucky to have you for a friend Elsa, it's always best to remain positive with people who are hurting with self esteem problems and try to present them with uplifting solutions. And Zylphia here's hoping you don't think of, or even suggest that as an answer again. Overcoming shortcomings of one kind or another is a part of what we're all here for. My heart goes out to that girl!
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annette

This is a very sad story, I feel sorry for that girl.
She should do what makes her happy, if she feels good with transition, let her go for it.
I know female appearance is very important, but that was the same when she was a GG.
I find her very brave, to deal with something like that.
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Tazia of the Omineca

Quote from: Shantel on February 12, 2012, 06:24:20 PM
She's lucky to have you for a friend Elsa, it's always best to remain positive with people who are hurting with self esteem problems and try to present them with uplifting solutions. And Zylphia here's hoping you don't think of, or even suggest that as an answer again. Overcoming shortcomings of one kind or another is a part of what we're all here for. My heart goes out to that girl!
I didn't suggest it. D;

I just said that is what I would do.
I don't mean anything by it at all.

I'm just a horrible person. :c
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MacKenzie

QuoteI want you'r opinions do you think that her disfigurement should hold her back from transitioning into a woman?

  No it shouldn't hold her back but in reality it probably will. A woman is judged by her appearance and nothing else. I don't think it's right but sadly that's how society see's women and transwomen are no different, if anything we have to work 10 x harder then biological women just to look pretty.

  I think that if she really wanted it she could successfully transition but it's gonna be tough for her more so then it would be for the average transwoman. 

  Lets face facts, if you're an ugly woman in this day and age your gonna have to work hard just like a man to get what you want. 
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Rabbit

Quote from: Danielle×o on February 12, 2012, 06:55:02 PM
  A woman is judged by her appearance and nothing else.

Only if she is trying to sell her appearance and nothing else...

If she gets a degree and career and works her buns off (like any successful person does) her looks really aren't that important (other than dating perhaps).

Women who are only judged on their appearance really aren't trying to offer anything else for people to judge them on instead.
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Stephe

Quote from: Danielle×o on February 12, 2012, 06:55:02 PM
A woman is judged by her appearance and nothing else.

Good grief.. Some of the things posted on this site. One person said she would kill herself if she can't be pretty and another say a woman is ONLY judged by her appearance. Am I the only one who feels there is more to life than is someone is pretty or not?
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Tazia of the Omineca

Quote from: Stephe on February 12, 2012, 11:00:46 PM
Good grief.. Some of the things posted on this site. One person said she would kill herself if she can't be pretty and another say a woman is ONLY judged by her appearance. Am I the only one who feels there is more to life than is someone is pretty or not?
I'm sorry I know I'm orrible. :c
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Torn1990

Quote from: Stephe on February 12, 2012, 11:00:46 PM
Good grief.. Some of the things posted on this site. One person said she would kill herself if she can't be pretty and another say a woman is ONLY judged by her appearance. Am I the only one who feels there is more to life than is someone is pretty or not?

^ This.
I know a woman who is transitioning in a wheelchair and has cerebral palsy.
Yes i think transitioning is still possible.
queer, transgender woman, Feminist, & writer. ~
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Felix

I lived as female for a long time and knew lots of relatively unattractive women who were successful and happy and loved. Most women aren't supermodels.
everybody's house is haunted
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Felix

Quote from: Felix on February 12, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
I lived as female for a long time and knew lots of relatively unattractive women who were successful and happy and loved. Most women aren't supermodels.
Which btw sorry I didn't mean that as a response to OP but to the later comments.
everybody's house is haunted
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MacKenzie

Quote from: Zylphia on February 12, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
I'm sorry I know I'm orrible. :c

  No your not horrible, don't apologize just because some people don't care about their appearance and you do.  :D  :P
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Stephe

Quote from: Danielle×o on February 13, 2012, 12:58:57 AM
  No your not horrible, don't apologize just because some people don't care about their appearance and you do.  :D  :P

If anyone would KILL THEMSELVES over their appearance, something is seriously wrong.
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Cindy

Support her with your love and friendship. She has problems accepting herself  but once she finds that people can and do love her then she will start the journey to acceptance.

Looks are not everything by any means, but young woman and TG woman in particular can get hung up on them for a while.  There is a gorgeous Australian woman who had her face blown off by a shotgun blast from a jealous ex-boyfriend. She was physically very attractive. Little remains of her face, but she is still a gorgeous woman because she accepts people and loves them. Once you can do that your looks do not matter at all.

In the case of your new friend she needs that support to carry her through.  If you do take on this difficult task you will have a friend who will walk through the corridors of Hell to support you. If you cannot then be a friend to her and treat her with love and respect.

But one thing is for certain, you are a fortunate person to have met her and to have befriended her.

Cindy
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Tazia of the Omineca

Quote from: Stephe on February 13, 2012, 01:16:01 AM
If anyone would KILL THEMSELVES over their appearance, something is seriously wrong.
I agree with you entirely Stephe.

I care about my appearance way too much (I used to not care at all before and before that I cared about it even more) way way way too much.
I can't help it though, I think about certain things and I just think "Man I don't think I could live like that no matter how much I tried."
Terrible way to view life. I know. Still I support and admire anyone that can carry on when I know I couldn't.
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Cindy

 Zylphia,
We find the strength where ever we can. It is all we can do.

Cindy
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Tazia of the Omineca

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