Become a woman but being a man

[Wild Flower]

I realize my job has loopholes regarding gender and transsexualism.... as long as I claim and dress as a man (mostly short hair) Im good.  I can become a woman all I want besides that because theres nothing saying I cant look like a woman. And my pension means a lot when Im old....

Has anyone done FFS, hormones, implants, voice surgery and all that but remain a man in a sense. It will be ackward but I guess I dont need to explain... and Ill wear a binder. I guess becoming a butch lesbian will be the end result.

As long as I have my career my life will never be bad.

[ImagineKate]

I am sure there are part timers, but are you not going full time solely because of your job?

Also, if you've had voice surgery it would be hard to hide the female voice unless you don't talk to anyone.

[Wild Flower]

I am sure there are part timers, but are you not going full time solely because of your job?

Also, if you've had voice surgery it would be hard to hide the female voice unless you don't talk to anyone.

I just need to be politically male. Otherwise Im thinking of going full blown woman with short hair (dresscode for male).

If people ask Ill say I have low testerone or something when I tell them Im a guy. But my personal life Im woman.

Its about my pension and benefits... I dont need the public to accept me as a woman, I just need to be a woman (its confusing I guess but work is work... and if I see a woman in the mirror Im good).

[Makenzie]

Be you,not what your job or society expects you to be.Also,I don't recommend lying,it's going to be worse if the truth is revealed.

[Beth Andrea]

Regarding "(to) claim and dress as a man...there's nothing saying I can't look like a woman." Sounds like you want your cake and eat it, too. If you claim to be a man, yet if you "look like" a woman, you cannot predict how others will react. They might accept your explanation...or they might not. Is your career worth the risk that they might not accept you?

Might you wait until you get your pension, and then transition?

[Wild Flower]

Regarding "(to) claim and dress as a man...there's nothing saying I can't look like a woman." Sounds like you want your cake and eat it, too. If you claim to be a man, yet if you "look like" a woman, you cannot predict how others will react. They might accept your explanation...or they might not. Is your career worth the risk that they might not accept you?

Might you wait until you get your pension, and then transition?

They cant fire me.  As long as I say... I am a man, ill say Im gay man. They dont need to know I am a transwoman. People will accept me... they accept gay people. Its just I cant be a woman in their eyes... on paper or SRS.  And even if I claim Im trans theres a lot of effort needed to get fired. Lesbians who look like guys are accepted. 

I cannot wait... otherwise its misery/suicide ideatition.... and thats destroying my performance. I wont last. I dont want to destroy my youth by pretending im a guy in my personal life... you know?  And my given a few decades of hormones and surgeries... Ill blend as a woman in my 40s easily once i retire from the job versus starting from nothing and a masculine body.

Money is hard to come by and security is not here in society...  job comes first but i dont need society to tell me what I am.

[Wild Flower]

I dont know. You guys make good points.

Maybe hold off on voice surgery till Im near the end of my career (or rules change) ... as that can push me over the edge of passing.

[Kristyn74]

If people ask Ill say I have low testerone or something when I tell them Im a guy. But my personal life Im woman.

Or say you're on/ have been on medication for a prostate problem, result being this...
Hrt is given( spiro ) for enlarged prostate.

[Wednesday]

I'm not sure about this, but I guess maybe somebody in somewhere could have done things that way. As long as they can't fire you based on your appearance, you should be able to do all this stuff. HRT changes would come slowly and maybe people won't notice it straightly, I'm thinking of known people who went under HRT without explaining and people on their environment (those who knew they were born male, i.e. co-wokers, family, etc) just thought they were gay/flamboyant/effeminate guys.

Maybe the most shocking/worrying point could be the implants (and trying to hide them). If you are completely sure they can't fire you for basically "being a dude who completely looks like a chick", then sounds doable to me. Anyway, you have to take into account that unless you're delusional, if you see a woman in the mirror people would see a woman too, so, that's the point, you'll end looking like a chick/butch lesbian/whatever depending upon your style/presentantion, and that would be noticeable for people.

In fact, if you ask me, I think seeing a therapist and then starting HRT could be a reasonably preventive step: as you pointed out, it will prevent further masculinizination and would give you an improved basis on the future.

[traci_k]

Am I mistaken or did you say somewhere that you were military? Ash Carter was talking about opening up military to trans-folk.

[mac1]

Would be nice to be able to pass as female under all conditions without question while being free to be either.

[Randi]

I think it could be made to work.  I'm retired now but spent the last 8 years at work taking hormones, but presenting as male.

I now have a good retirement with higher than the median national income.  It's mine for life and no one can take that away.  As I read these forums the greatest complaint I hear is that someone lost their job, home or other necessity of life.  That won't happen to me.

I've never had any surgery and might dress in an androgynous fashion, but never overtly female.  My dysphoria involved living in the wrong type of body.  I care less about appearing a particular way or being viewed as female.   It's important to me that when I get out of the bath and look in the mirror, I see a woman looking back at me.

I think the FFS and voice surgery need to go on the back burner, and wearing dresses and skirts could be distuptive in the workplace.  If you are in good health you could have many years after retirement. 

If you are less than 10 years from retirement, and willing to forgo surgery for the moment, you can begin hormonal transformation and beard removal, then kick things into high gear as you get closer to retirement.

[mac1]

I think it could be made to work.  I'm retired now but spent the last 8 years at work taking hormones, but presenting as male.

I now have a good retirement with higher than the median national income.  It's mine for life and no one can take that away.  ...........................

I once thought that, too.  However my company cancelled the pension 2 years ago.