Using Binary Pronouns Despite Non-Binary Genders?

[Apollo]

Does anyone else here feel like they identify more with one of the binary genders, and wants to be known AS that gender-- but isn't quite it?

Does that make any sort of sense?

Myself, for example... I identify more as male, I'd love to have top surgery (maybe even be on T) and be referred to as male... but I'm not really male?

I just, I don't feel like any of the gender neutral pronouns fit me, and being called 'he' and the like is just so flattering in my eyes. But I still enjoy a lot of female things, and sometimes dressing femininely, or decorating with floral patterns (etc, etc). I just don't really feel female though.

I'm not sure if this is just so much on the base of what society has taught us to accept as female and male, that says I can't be male and enjoy these things? Or?

Just my being curious to any who fully wish to identify to a certain gender without being said gender.

(Also as a side note, I read recently of a girl who referred to her non-binary lover as her 'genderfriend' as compared to 'girlfriend' or 'boyfriend'. Thoughts on that?)

[ativan]

I like that! Genderfriend! I have a couple people who would like that very much.

I have only one friend that will sometimes use feminine pronouns, I sometimes don't catch it right away,
it's usually when I am in a particularly feminine state of mind (it happens). I like it, I like it a lot.
I am so used to being refered to as male (I present mostly male) that I don't really think about it.
I refer to the group of girls as 'Hey, Guy's' all the time. Nobody cares.

Bottom line for me is you can refer to me as anything you want, as long as it's not being nasty or something.
It's their view of their world, not mine. They are entitled to their's as I am mine.
If people don't mind what I call them, fine. If they have a favorite that I don't trip on all the time, fine.
It's just a word, not much different than labels. Don't get hung up on them.

The world is changing, and a pronoun isn't going to make any more difference than a label does.
It's the respect of the use of pronouns and labels, not the words themselves, that counts.

Ativan

[caseyyy]

I use the binary pronoun, he, much for the same reason you do. my body feels like it should be more male, and 'she' has a history of being used to offend/oppress me/deny my gender identity and push me into birth sex box, so.

[Pica Pica]

I don't use gender neutral pronouns, and I take whatever gendered one I get (now I work with the really small children it's actually more likely 'miss' than 'sir').

To be honest though, I see it that whatever is being referred to me as, is being referred to me and so the act of it referring to me makes it neutral by that very definition. Though I don't identify with male or female - except in their relation to me as an andro.

[foosnark]

My reply got lost in the aether, I see...

Anyway, I don't ask anyone to use any particular pronouns, because I just don't feel stronly about it, so they default to "he."  And I'm not really out loud, and am okay with being a "guy" in the general, not too gendered sense (though I am more comfortable around girls).

This reminds me of the line from the Teen Girl Squad episode "Valentimes": "did that dude just say she likes cloth?"  I'd be fine with that.

[possiblycharlie]

Personally, I feel like a male-leaning androgyne, which complicates things since I'm FAAB. I feel male in a lot of respects, but I do still have conventionally "girly" aspects to my mannerisms and personality. I'd feel like I was denying those parts of myself trying to pass as male all the time, as much as living full-time as a girl doesn't reflect me accurately at all either. Hello, androgyny!

That said, I enjoy being referred to by male pronouns, but I'm just in the early stages of requesting that from my friends, and knowing the figure I have to work with, I'm not surprised or angry when I get "she" or "miss" from strangers.

~possiblycharlie