How much time to people notice changes?

[iwillbe]

Hello to everybody.. I will do my apointment to the psychiatrist, and then with the endocrinologist to start to take my hormones.. I would like to know for how much time can I hide the changes on my body to everyone.. Cuz im planing to move on and I will do this before people can see my changes..

Im allready taking finasteride by myself for about 4 days... Hope to start on hormones In 15..20 days or less..

Xoxo

[iwillbe]

In my experience, people who regularly see you won't notice for half a year or even longer. When people see you once in lets say 2 months, they are bound to notice.

I dont know why, but im just just taking finesteride for about 4 days and Im feeling more feminine allready.. maybe is an placebo effect or something like that.. finasteride will help my body to product less (or more slow) hair (body.. beard....?)?

What kind of changes can I expect on the first five months?
I will loose body mass and muscles mass fast? Can it change my face (like make my eyebrow is too low.. i cant ever see the makeup that I apply cuz of that.. maybe it will be more high or something like that?

Thx a lot

[iwillbe]

effects are different for all people, what I experienced might not be the same for you.
1'st week: reduction of sexdrive and reduction in acne
3rd week: pain in nipples
5th week: nipple elevation.
6th week: hard 'disks' of breast tissue formed
2nd month: noticable softer skin
4 months (now): Pain in nipples reduced, 'disks' remain, the skin is more sensitive making shaving a bit painful, facial hair grows slower, penis has shrunk to half its original size.

People who haven't seen me the past four months remark how my face has changed a bit. I haven't really noticed a reduction in muscles yet and my appetite has gone through the roof.

Can I hide the nipples using something making people to dont notice then? I dont want to others knows it until I move out to another country

[Joanna]

Hi I wear a sports bra to help hold the mounds down when I am in guy mode at work.  However, I am now 5 months in and the changes seem to be shifting up a gear.

I noticed my complexion changing after a couple of months.  My body shape started changing almost within the first months.  Since being on hormones I have lost a stone in weight and it's all muscle mass.  I have lost 3 " from my chest/back which doesn't sound much because I have gained some flesh on my breasts.  I have lost 4" from my waist and gained 3" on my hips.  The muscles in my arms have gone all mushy and soft, as have my pecs.  Everything goes more wobbly and less firm.  I try to keep fit to maintain as much tone as possible.  Generally everything will soften up a great deal.  My doctor who sees me every few months always says I am a shadow of my former self and Muscle mass loss has been significant. 

Who knows what lies ahead for you.  It is very much up to your genetics.  My mum and my aunt are shapely petite ladies.  I however am 5ft 10 but my body is dead set on shredding muscle as a woman.  People at work who dont know what is happening, think I am unwell as my weight has dropped off so obviously.  I dont look i'll, its just been quite rapid.

[patstar]

I completely agree that always wearing a light and "unstructured" sports or comfort bra without the obvious cups will work a lot of us as far as hiding even quite large nipples (which I happen to have)--and even the breasts themselves in a lot of cases . The effect with me (I'm also about a b-cup) when in guy mode is to make it appear as though I have fairly large pecs.  I can with, the help of an additional form fitting sport garment, even do my cardio workouts without having my condition detected.  However, let me say that I am at least on the chunky side and would guess that this may not work for someone with noticeable breast development who is also a bit too slim.

[Kelly J. P.]

 It's possible people might never notice HRT changes. Growing out your hair will get you noticed, though that's an avoidable problem... breast growth might be a problem within six months if you're lucky, but if you're not, breast growth may never be difficult to hide.

Other than those two, people won't notice enough change to come to the conclusion that you're transitioning. They might shrug the rest off as strange, or may not notice at all.

Facial changes are a bit borderline; sometimes they're significant, sometimes they're not. Even if they are, though, people may or may not notice, because no matter how much change happens due to hormones, facial features will change only subtlely, at best. When they notice, it's because they realize what those subtle changes have actually done with your face - and people that are that observant about oneself are quite uncommon.

[Eva Marie]

Facial changes are a bit borderline; sometimes they're significant, sometimes they're not. Even if they are, though, people may or may not notice, because no matter how much change happens due to hormones, facial features will change only subtlely, at best. When they notice, it's because they realize what those subtle changes have actually done with your face - and people that are that observant about oneself are quite uncommon.

I am on a low dose HRT regimen to control my GID and I am not trying to transition - i wanted to comment on your statement.

After a year of full time HRT i've basically lost a TON of weight in my face - even my wife has made comments about it. I fly frequently and the TSA people have made comments too, and they look back and forth between my face and my license (with a picture taken before HRT began) for a long time now before letting me thru. And when i wear a baseball cap i've noticed that people stare at me; the cap highlights the shape of my face somehow and people see something going on there.

I don't mind the changes; they were an expected side effect when I started HRT.

[iwillbe]

I am on a low dose HRT regimen to control my GID and I am not trying to transition - i wanted to comment on your statement.

After a year of full time HRT i've basically lost a TON of weight in my face - even my wife has made comments about it. I fly frequently and the TSA people have made comments too, and they look back and forth between my face and my license (with a picture taken before HRT began) for a long time now before letting me thru. And when i wear a baseball cap i've noticed that people stare at me; the cap highlights the shape of my face somehow and people see something going on there.

I don't mind the changes; they were an expected side effect when I started HRT.

Sorry, what is GID?

Did your face got more feminized? U got scared in a good away (great results)?

My face is a little "fat", not fat for a men, but "heavy".. but if it gets more thin I would look probably 90% like a "genuine" woman.. my noose make some girl jealous LOL, my eyes too.. just my eyebrown that its too low (probably I will try to solve this with botox.. is it dosent work I will do a surgery..)

Do anyone knows a software that shows how would be u if u r born a girl?

thx

[Eva Marie]

Sorry, what is GID?

Did your face got more feminized? U got scared in a good away (great results)?

GID is short for Gender Identity Disorder. In my case (i'm bigender) GID would periodically attack me when I was in girl mode. My symptoms included hearing a loud buzzing in my head, and I had incessant, racing thoughts about being a girl. I could not get away from the noise/thoughts, and the thoughts were about to convince me to take actions that would be dangerous to myself and my marriage. With HRT the pendulum swung back to the middle again.

Yes, i think my face is definitely more femme. I dressed en femme and went out last saturday night for the very first time to a very busy bar with some friends and no one paid any attention to me whatsoever (in the point and laugh way) so i took that as a sign that i at least resembled a girl.

[iwillbe]

GID is short for Gender Identity Disorder. In my case (i'm bigender) GID would periodically attack me when I was in girl mode. My symptoms included hearing a loud buzzing in my head, and I had incessant, racing thoughts about being a girl. I could not get away from the noise/thoughts, and the thoughts were about to convince me to take actions that would be dangerous to myself and my marriage. With HRT the pendulum swung back to the middle again.

Yes, i think my face is definitely more femme. I dressed en femme and went out last saturday night for the very first time to a very busy bar with some friends and no one paid any attention to me whatsoever (in the point and laugh way) so i took that as a sign that i at least resembled a girl.

Thx for your answer.

In my case since im young I wish that i was a girl.. in my adolescence i wish so hard to be a girl.. use that kind of clothes, heels, makeup..
Todays its getting impossible of stop thinking about it.. I can live as a guy anymore.. like lady gaga says "im born this way"

[wheat thins are delicious]

It was within the first few months when someone first said something about my voice.  I had "frog throat" that day and a girl I work with was like "What's wrong with your voice?  You sound horrible."  She knew I had started hormones so I told her that it was the hormones doing it.  And she was like "oh, cool, are you excited?"

[Felecia]

I found it interesting to read Riven1 post about being on a low dose HRT to manage GID while not wanting to transition.  I am not sure about transtioning, still up in the air, fear, consequences but I do want to start HRT and feel more myself, less of a body mind disconnect for the first time.

[Eva Marie]

I found it interesting to read Riven1 post about being on a low dose HRT to manage GID while not wanting to transition.  I am not sure about transtioning, still up in the air, fear, consequences but I do want to start HRT and feel more myself, less of a body mind disconnect for the first time.

In the latest version of the DSM low dose HRT is talked about as a treatment for dysphoria. More than a few androgyne folk here are on it. Therapists are becoming more aware of low dose HRT as a treatment for GID too. Slowly the medical community learns.......

For me it's been a blessing - my brain simply needs a chemical that my body cannot produce to function.