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Started by sophia001, April 02, 2012, 03:23:31 PM

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sophia001

Hi all,

I am always someone that has struggled to decide for myself whether I'm "truly" a transsexual or somebody with a very unusual fetish. I don't want to use the standard term for this as I realise how divisive it is within the community.

I've had a drive to become female since before I could remember and certainly far before puberty but have always felt that to actually do anything about it would seriously derail my life and isolate me from my family, friends and colleagues. I guess I was negatively influenced by the very negative media portrayals of transsexuals at the time (thank the Jerry Springer show for that one....). I always felt that I would be ostracised from society if I were to follow my dreams and as someone that grew up being the outsider, and to finally be accepted in society for "who I am" I'm very sensitive to this possibility.

I can't deny that since adolescence there has been a strong sexual component to this desire. I guess a question may be, is it possible that this is the only way I've found to explore or set free my feelings. Does having these feelings somehow invalidate any sort of deeper gender identity crisis?
I guess I will never know if that's all I ever do with my feelings, and part of what I'm doing here, and elsewhere, is trying to finally dig my head out from the sand and give it some real thought.

I do feel as though I'm feeling around in the dark not quite knowing even how to frame the questions that will let me discover what is really me.
Has anybody else been in a similar situation? How did you separate or discover your true feelings?

- Soph
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Elasmotraxx

I think it's more appearance than personality. So contour that crease.

If you're not feminine to begin with. It's hard for people, I'd attempt to soften the blow now...and go from there. I told my Mom I was bisexual when I was 14, then when I told her I only liked dudes...she wasn't surprised.

Transition is kind of like that.
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Elasmotraxx

Quote from: sohpia001 on April 02, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
Hi all,


I've had a drive to become female since before I could remember and certainly far before puberty

There is no BECOME. You're either feminine or you're not. It's either part of your soul or it isn't. People who transition based on a fantasy find themselves waking up to a s***storm in the morning.

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sophia001

Quote from: Elasmotraxx on April 02, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
There is no BECOME. You're either feminine or you're not. It's either part of your soul or it isn't. People who transition based on a fantasy find themselves waking up to a s***storm in the morning.

I guess I would counter that there is a difference between being female and being feminine. I feel emotionally feminine but know that I am not a female (physically).

Believe me, I hear what you are saying. Part of what I'm trying to do is to determine why I feel the way I do and not just "rush ahead"
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Elasmotraxx

Quote from: sohpia001 on April 02, 2012, 03:41:05 PM

Believe me, I hear what you are saying. Part of what I'm trying to do is to determine why I feel the way I do, and how much of it (if any) is based on fantasy.

It's good you feel that way. It may turn out you want to be a crossdresser or something. I have plenty of male friends who spend their weekends as female performers. But they enjoy being men as well, even if they aren't the most manly of men.

I mean I think with transition, you're on incredibly powerful mind altering drugs and are doing something that takes a strong soul to do.
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Julie Wilson

Healthy people tend to sexualize things.  You said ever since adolescence there has been a strong sexual component to this desire.  Adolescence is a very sexual time in one's life, also a time when we (M2Fs) may begin to question who we are.  Perhaps we are separating from our parents, becoming our own person.  Through experiences we have we will try to filter ourselves and sift through our experiences, determine our dislikes our likes, and find out who we are as a person.

The concern regarding sexualization here is determining whether or not the desire to transition is a fetish or who you are inside.  Can you live with yourself after transition?  Will you be able to have healthy relationships, healthy boundaries, will you be able to function after transition?  I suppose the truth of the matter is that the better accepted you are after transition, the easier it will be for you.  I think the mistake most who transition make is seeking acceptance in the first place.  Don't get me wrong, there are essentially two schools of thought on this or two personality types.  The first is gonna do her own thing, rest of the world be damned.  She may even thrive on criticism.  The second type of personality just wants to be able to integrate socially as female.  I am the second type.  I'm not into confrontation, educating people or applying for "acceptance".  I have found that seeking acceptance is a sure way to avoid having it.  I transitioned, it's no one else's business.  Either accept me as I am or find someone else to mess with.

I have pondered the current situation, so much information about transition being available to the general public.  I wish I had known sooner and had been able to take advantage of transition sooner and no doubt others will benefit from what I missed out on, but I wonder sometimes if some people are transitioning simply because someone else did it or if because there is so much information out there that it just seems like something else to do now?  I mean how many punk rockers were there before anyone knew what a punk rocker was?

As humans we like to believe we are a lot more complex than we really are when most of what we consider "complexity" is really just noise, static..  I think you will know in your heart if being a woman is right for you.  I suspect that some who transition for whom is is not right for them.. they continually seek out conflict, political and otherwise so as to protest too much and exert who they are in an ongoing effort to find out who they are but when there is no longer any resistance, they will fall flat on their faces.  Maybe that is their thing.  If you are on a quest to find out who you are, if you are seeking inner peace and harmony and female socialization then achieving some of that will allow you to know in your heart if it is right for you or not.

For myself transition wasn't about transition, it was about sorting out a biological disaster and piecing together something from the ashes.  I wanted to experience a little life, love and happiness before my miserably wrong life was finally over.  I felt lost before transition, I knew when I hit puberty that things were going wrong.  I made sense of it as I went along because no one was there to explain my situation to me.  The fact that you are questioning yourself is good.

My advice may be considered obsolete but I would say explore, experience, find out.  If it feels right to you give it all of your energy, give it all of your loyalty.  Be honest even when it feels like you owe people something else, honest to yourself, honest to what and who you are.  You don't owe anyone anything.  Your first priority is to get yourself where you need to be because you can't save anyone else until you save yourself and it isn't about saving anyone else, it's about having an incredible and rewarding life.  At least that is my thought anyway.

Also done correctly Zazen meditation will give you the answers you need by silencing the noise in your mind.  http://www.mro.org/zmm/teachings/meditation.php

I would also like to add another thought here.  I believe that many people transition even when it really isn't who they are and like I mentioned previously, some continue to try to convince themselves that transition is right for them by seeking conflict, they may become an activist or constantly confront non-accepting people as a way to continually protest too much so as to convince themselves that the only thing holding them back from being their true selves are non-accepting people, when really they are just trying to convince themselves they are something they are not.  Or maybe they are somewhere in the middle or maybe they have too much noise in their minds and need to practice some Zazen meditation.

But there is another type of transsexual who seeks to convince herself that she did the right thing for all the right reasons and she is the one who is critical of everyone else.  She is the one who tries to separate the transgenders from the transsexuals.  She focuses her attention on blaming the transgenders for all her problems when really she just needs to either detransition, get over herself or get over transition and get on with being her true self.  It seems like a lot of people start transition and never finish when the goal was to be one's true self, not to become a punk rocker, or a transsexual, but to fully become the woman she was on the inside, all-over.  Her body, her life, her socialization, her relationships...  All the things that make a feminine being a feminine being and channeling all of that into creating one's true life experience by sorting and sifting, discovering who you are, whatever that may be.

I feel like I have stunted my own transition by relying too much on the "community" by thinking and acting and speaking as a transsexual when I need to just be myself.  Sorry for such a long post, your post made me reflect on a lot of things.
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Elasmotraxx

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Julie Wilson

Hardly... O_o

I think you focused on one thing, took it out of context and missed out on a lot of what I said.

If someone transitions because it is a fetish then that will make healthy relationships and boundaries difficult after transition, though there are plenty of unhealthy people in the world, people who transitioned, people who never transitioned.

I would be more concerned about males who transition to female (not because they are female) but because they feel like they failed at being males so they are instead going to be females.  Or as someone I knew long ago referred to as beta males transitioning to become alpha females.

People will do whatever they do...

My message is focus on your own life, focus on the prize, whatever that may be.  Because whatever you focus on, that is what you will get more of.  ^_^

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Stephe

I think it's difficult to totally separate gender from sexual feelings. We are sexual beings. I mean we are talking about male vs female which is how our -sex- is defined. To say someone who enjoys sexually "being female" is a -just a fetish- is wrong IMHO. And that doesn't invalidate your gender identity either.

As far as your question on how to separate these feelings: I think the best way is to find a doctor or therapist who will let you start on an AA/spironolactone to kill off some of your male sex drive. Then see if the feeling of wanting to be a female is still as strong. If this feeling goes away with your sex drive, that will answer the question. You can stop taking these after a short test period if you don't like how you feel on them. You probably would not like living as a woman on HRT if being on an AA removes the desire.

For me it didn't lower my desire at all. If anything, even though my sex drive was lower, the desire to be female/woman was just as strong. I was already living full time before I started HRT so was pretty sure I had made the right choice but was glad to see that HRT didn't change my opinion on all of this. 
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Stephe

Quote from: Luv2Dance on April 02, 2012, 04:32:33 PM

My message is focus on your own life, focus on the prize, whatever that may be.  Because whatever you focus on, that is what you will get more of.  ^_^


Plus for me if someone is happier after they transition, that is all the reason they need. ALL of this is about improving ones quality of life. People can pick and choose parts or all of this as needed to make them happy. I've had to make some choices for medical reasons I didn't want to have to make but it was about which path will improve my life overall the most. I can say I am SO MUCH happier than I was before! :)
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Felix

There's a strong sexual component to a lot of people's thoughts about gender and sexuality whether they're trans or not. I don't think that fact contributes to the clouding of the picture very much.
everybody's house is haunted
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justmeinoz

I came to transition after a bit of a mental breakdown, that totally erased my self identity, and had to work out who I really was.
I decided I was a woman, and had to start living as one, even if I was forced to live alone as a lighthouse keeper on an island for the rest of my life. 
We are all sexual beings, which can complicate things, but meditation, or even just sitting quietly contemplating can help sort things out.
Be gentle on yourself, and don't rush things.  Answers will come eventually.

Karen. 
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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peky

Quote from: sohpia001 on April 02, 2012, 03:41:05 PM
I guess I would counter that there is a difference between being female and being feminine. I feel emotionally feminine but know that I am not a female (physically).

Believe me, I hear what you are saying. Part of what I'm trying to do is to determine why I feel the way I do and not just "rush ahead"

Femininity is a social construct, and thus it can be modified as it evolves, in other words you have some control over.

Your gender identity, on the other hand, is biologically set by age 2-4 by genes and hormonal effects. You can be male, female, androgynous, or non-geneder, and everything in between.

You can hide, disguise, and even reject your gender identity, but at the end of the day you (or anybody) cannot change it.
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JoanneB

I first started feeling I should have been born a girl around the age of four. My mom did her best to disabuse me of that. Never the less, I still wished and prayed most nights that things will be a lot different come morning.

With the onset puberty, so came raging T levels. So sure, a LOT of things became sexual. Including the cross dressing. By my early twenties the arousal factor from dressing faded. There was still a component there, but overwhelmingly there was just the feeling of this is right. Still, armed with the surety that "sexual arousal = CD" I talked myself out of that I am a TS. Easier when you ignore all the other evidence in favor of being a TS.

From talking to a few other TSs in my group, this pattern is far from uncommon. Let's face it, T is a powerful drug. In your teens almost anything can give you an erection, often when you don't want one.  :o

Quote from: Stephe on April 02, 2012, 11:33:02 PM
As far as your question on how to separate these feelings: I think the best way is to find a doctor or therapist who will let you start on an AA/spironolactone to kill off some of your male sex drive. Then see if the feeling of wanting to be a female is still as strong. If this feeling goes away with your sex drive, that will answer the question. You can stop taking these after a short test period if you don't like how you feel on them. You probably would not like living as a woman on HRT if being on an AA removes the desire.

For me it didn't lower my desire at all. If anything, even though my sex drive was lower, the desire to be female/woman was just as strong. I was already living full time before I started HRT so was pretty sure I had made the right choice but was glad to see that HRT didn't change my opinion on all of this. 
+1
Depending where you live finding ANY gender therapist may be difficult, forget about a good one. Check into TG groups in the area for leads.

HRT in my late teens & 20's did not change how I felt about myself. Being freaked out knowing where the road ahead would lead, caused me to stop. Most of my life I was teased, laughed at, and ridiculed, on the good days. It was easy to choose between continuing that emotional torture, or fake being "normal".
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saint

Quote from: peky on April 03, 2012, 07:48:11 AM
Femininity is a social construct, and thus it can be modified as it evolves, in other words you have some control over.

Your gender identity, on the other hand, is biologically set by age 2-4 by genes and hormonal effects. You can be male, female, androgynous, or non-geneder, and everything in between.

You can hide, disguise, and even reject your gender identity, but at the end of the day you (or anybody) cannot change it.

I have had about a dozen gender idenitities in the last year or so :)  I have settled on just going with whatever feels right on a given day!
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