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[Alainaluvsu]

Who defines who fits under what term?  You?  The author of the theory?  Or perhaps maybe the individual?  IT IS elitism, you are saying that I am better than them and they will drag me down.

Don't these statements boil down to I am better from them?

My bad. I guess I should be okay with being perceived as the same type of people as the ones that are showing off their nasty 60 year old legs and crotch while wearing a dress. Because you know, we are all the same.

Transsexuals are already a running joke. It's kind of like when blondes get lumped into the same stereotype of being an air headed bimbo when they see a video of something stupid they've done; another blonde that is trying to fight the stereotype may think "Ummm... don't lump me in with that idiot, she's killing us!"

Tons of people lump transsexuality into some sexual need anyways. When I came out to my brother, he said "You can be gay without dressing up like a girl." ... NSS .. (No s* sherlock).

[Annah]

Honestly, you guys all put too much care into the wording. IDC what you call it, ->-bleeped-<-, CD, TV, fetishism. Make a new term if you like.

And this is why you have no idea what you're talking when it comes to ->-bleeped-<-.

Crossdressing Fetish is NOT ->-bleeped-<-. You assume one definition fits ->-bleeped-<- to how you see it.

That's like saying someone with a speech impediment is mentally retarded.

You really need to learn definitions of conditions that have been used to attack transgender people rather than throwing out the word like you know its meaning.

[Annah]

According to the majority of members here if you believe in ->-bleeped-<- you're an elitist ->-bleeped-<-r then thou transsexual.

I can't understand why people on here even after seeing all the evidence STILL will not admit that ->-bleeped-<- is real and there are dozens upon dozens of these people on the net that admit to being sexually attracted to themselves as women.

I agree with Pretty, they're not the same thing and shouldn't be lumped together.

If you want to lower yourself on a level in which transsexual lesbians are regarded as nothing more than fetishistic masturbators who think they are a girl but really not then you be my guest.

I wont claim it. Never will.

[pretty]

Who defines who fits under what term?  You?  The author of the theory?  Or perhaps maybe the individual?  IT IS elitism, you are saying that I am better than them and they will drag me down.

Don't these statements boil down to I am better from them?

No, it's an assessment of the urgency and seriousness of the problem. A fetish is a fetish, people can take care of it like a fetish and it should be treated as one.

Transsexualism is a serious problem for the people it affects. It causes maladaptive behaviors and development from a young age when there is not a supportive environment, as there often is not.

[Jeneva]

If you want to lower yourself on a level in which transsexual lesbians are regarded as nothing more than fetishistic masturbators who think they are a girl but really not then you be my guest.

I wont claim it. Never will.

And I won't accept being labeled as a fetishistic simply because I am attracted to women (I know you aren't Annah, I'm just saying that I agree and refuse to accept that label).

The funny part is except for my orientation I fit fairly well into the HSTS category.  Actually if you had asked almost any of my friends from high school, college, or even grad school they would have told you I was a gay man.  My grandparents (that raised us and adopted us (but only for the SSA money)) were certain I was gay (of course I also came out to them at 4-5 and was quickly taught that it was better to never talk about that [or else...]).  My aunt introduced me to Shannon because she figured that Shannon would make a good beard and maybe she would be butch enough to interest me.  My middle and high school best friend was certain I was gay and once his girlfriend he was living with wanted me to go back into her bedroom and look through her PlayGirls with her.  When we lived away from east TN with my biofather there was a boy at school that was convinced he was my boyfriend.  He actually helped me catch butterflies all day one Saturday for a science project. When he dropped me off my biofather stepped out and was ready to kill him because he thought we were going to kiss.

But you know what...   I'm not a gay man nor a straight woman because men have NEVER interested me sexually.  Even after 2+ years of T blockers and over a year of E I still am not interested in men.  I am female and have known that since very early.  Actually isn't there yet another hole in the theories here?  Gender identity is supposed to be fixed at 4-5 and sexuality isn't usually realized until puberty.

Added after I wrote the above because pretty posted again.

No, it's an assessment of the urgency and seriousness of the problem. A fetish is a fetish, people can take care of it like a fetish and it should be treated as one.

Transsexualism is a serious problem for the people it affects. It causes maladaptive behaviors and development from a young age when there is not a supportive environment, as there often is not.

But pretty as long as you support ->-bleeped-<- you are saying that I'm not a transsexual.  You cannot support ->-bleeped-<- without supporting the dichotomy.  And according to those rules I am ->-bleeped-<- also.  Even if you pick a new word instead of ->-bleeped-<-, still you have to answer who decides and what criteria they use.  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I invite you to look at my past posts and see if you can find anything to justify denying me transition.  I also have a link to our family farm website on my profile (the globe under my avatar).  Before someone starts the whole but you avatar isn't you.  My avatar is what it is because it has special meaning to me.  On our site and here are plenty of pictures.  I actually wrote up my entire FFS experience and you can see the whole progress.  I post with my full real legal first name because I belief that stealth is an illusion and the entire community needs some of us to out ourselves so that the public understands.  It really bothers me to see our own community attack itself.  As Annah said the ->-bleeped-<- diagnosis is EXCEPTIONALLY offensive to lesbian transwomen because it denies our very existence and self identity.

[Devlyn]

You can be 50, 60, 70, look hideous in lingerie and still expect full support here. To not be supportive of people runs counter to this sites mission. Hugs, Devlyn

[Alainaluvsu]

You can be 50, 60, 70, look hideous in lingerie and still expect full support here. To not be supportive of people runs counter to this sites mission. Hugs, Devlyn

I'll be sure to remember that in the threads when people want honesty. When they want honesty, we're suppose to be supportive, not truthful.

[Constance]

 

Actually, it is quite possible to be both honest and supportive at the same time. It doesn't even take all that much effort.

Let's bring some civility back to this thread, please. And, let's return to the topic: Hair.

[pretty]

And I won't accept being labeled as a fetishistic simply because I am attracted to women (I know you aren't Annah, I'm just saying that I agree and refuse to accept that label).

The funny part is except for my orientation I fit fairly well into the HSTS category.  Actually if you had asked almost any of my friends from high school, college, or even grad school they would have told you I was a gay man.  My grandparents (that raised us and adopted us (but only for the SSA money)) were certain I was gay (of course I also came out to them at 4-5 and was quickly taught that it was better to never talk about that [or else...]).  My aunt introduced me to Shannon because she figured that Shannon would make a good beard and maybe she would be butch enough to interest me.  My middle and high school best friend was certain I was gay and once his girlfriend he was living with wanted me to go back into her bedroom and look through her PlayGirls with her.  When we lived away from east TN with my biofather there was a boy at school that was convinced he was my boyfriend.  He actually helped me catch butterflies all day one Saturday for a science project. When he dropped me off my biofather stepped out and was ready to kill him because he thought we were going to kiss.

But you know what...   I'm not a gay man nor a straight woman because men have NEVER interested me sexually.  Even after 2+ years of T blockers and over a year of E I still am not interested in men.  I am female and have known that since very early.  Actually isn't there yet another hole in the theories here?  Gender identity is supposed to be fixed at 4-5 and sexuality isn't usually realized until puberty.

Added after I wrote the above because pretty posted again.But pretty as long as you support ->-bleeped-<- you are saying that I'm not a transsexual.  You cannot support ->-bleeped-<- without supporting the dichotomy.  And according to those rules I am ->-bleeped-<- also.  Even if you pick a new word instead of ->-bleeped-<-, still you have to answer who decides and what criteria they use.  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I invite you to look at my past posts and see if you can find anything to justify denying me transition.  I also have a link to our family farm website on my profile (the globe under my avatar).  Before someone starts the whole but you avatar isn't you.  My avatar is what it is because it has special meaning to me.  On our site and here are plenty of pictures.  I actually wrote up my entire FFS experience and you can see the whole progress.  I post with my full real legal first name because I belief that stealth is an illusion and the entire community needs some of us to out ourselves so that the public understands.  It really bothers me to see our own community attack itself.  As Annah said the ->-bleeped-<- diagnosis is EXCEPTIONALLY offensive to lesbian transwomen because it denies our very existence and self identity.

Well, ya know, like I said, idc about the ->-bleeped-<- theory. And I don't care what you call it. Call it rainbow showers of unicorn dust. Whatever.

I don't know when this became a fetish community, so personally I don't think I'm attacking members of this community. I just think there should be sufficient distance between transsexualism and exhibitionism with a CD twist. The latter should stay in the fetish community because it is a fetish.

[Constance]

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